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Quote:Though Beast Wars was more sequel then remake, there were definite plots in that series. Also the 2002 Masters of the Universe was an excellent reboot. Too bad they couldn't get to do the Hordak episodes that they were building towards. Especially since I figured another place of Hordak's power that could be used to bring him back.......Castle Greyskul itself. It was Hordak's power that created the bottomless abyss around it.Originally Posted by Steelclaw
Awesome... absolutely awesome. Now THIS is how a re-make of an 80s cartoon should be done.
I actually think I detected a plot and series-wide through line in there somewhere!
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Quote:The old series had memorable episodes and some interesting plots, but at times there were episodes that were indeed truly.....well let's just say truly geared for children, and that it seemed at times to take itself too seriously as a toy commercial cartoon.Originally Posted by Xzero45
I don't know, either. I'm not saying Thundercats sucked back in the day, but it wasn't the greatest show ever made, either. Not like it'd be doing anything a disservice for someone to want to do their own version of the story.
As to the Reboot reboot, here's the only thing we have to go on.
Lion-O's annointment trial was an excellent story. -
Quote:Snarf had his moments of glory in the old series, to be honest some of the episodes in general early on and a few with the Lunataks were pretty campy thus making talking Snark seem like Shakespeare...Originally Posted by Ms. Mesmer
Snarf that doesn't speak already makes this miles better than the original. Snarf, Snarf.
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Quote:Yes, silent Snarf is a good thing! Just like how Cringer/Battlecat in the 2002 Masters of the Universe couldn't speak either!Originally Posted by Furio
Interesting so far. Apparently Tygra is Lion-o's illigitamate or adopted brother, Kat and Kit are street urchins and best of all, Snarf is *just* a cat...no whining from him!
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Quote:Reminds me of Back to the Future part 2: "the justice system works quickly now that they eliminated all lawyers!"Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Gee no surprise that a lawyer thinks he can win by losing since he gets paid more the longer he can draw this out.
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Quote:Hm, and Presto was known for doing silly magic card tricks before they came to the realm, Bobby the Barbarian....well he's a young kid, prone to anger and tantrums so I can see the club going to him.Originally Posted by WildClaw
I can only vaguely remember some of it, but I swear I read something from Gygax about the show back when it first premiered. Something about the classes (and magic items) were due to the character's self-images. Thief with the invibility cloak was because she didn't think anyone paid attention to her, and Cavalier with the shield was because all he thought about was protecting himself, etc.
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Quote:Last word is that they are working on movies for Reboot, and there was the webcomic that picked up after My Two Bobs. Shame they didn't get the budget to do the 4 episodes after My Two Bobs and wrap the saga. Now Tony Jay the VA for Megabyte is gone and so is the VA for Captain Capacitor, two fun characters from the show.Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Why do I feel sick knowing this is going to be redone?
Speaking of reboots, though, anyone know the likelihood of Reboot getting a reboot? Every time I see the word I think of the show. I miss Bob and Enzo.
Glad I got my box set of the whole series other month when they finally released Season 1 and 2 on DVD at long last.
There was a brief teaser trailer sometime back that showed an upgraded Mainframe and it ends with the cube dropping down and the new voice "Warning, incoming game!" -
Quote:Yep, I remember that. DM seemed bound by a "for every action there is an equal/opposite reaction". Didn't stop him from using some power at times, but only when it was needed most.Originally Posted by ObiWan
He was defiantly bound by some law of balance. I remember one episode where Eric was given DM's power and was thirsty so he just made a little fountain of water appear out of the ground. DM then chastised him saying he was taking water from somewhere that may need it just for his use.
I remember being a bit surprised when he didn't intervene in the battle against Venger at the dragon's graveyard, where the kids weapons were stronger then normal due to being at their place of origin. I guess he wanted the kids to make the moral choice themselves, but given his relation/connection to Venger I would have thought he would intervene. Even Tiamat seemed amused by the fight and the outcome. -
Quote:There was the episode where Warduke captured Dungeon Master in ice and he appeared to be in suspended animation. He was using his powers to evade capture at first and was enjoying how "fun" it was and that he had forgotten. Dungeon Master then appears to perish in the ice but didn't and was freed. With minimal effort he twists Venger's spell and sends it back at him. It glows on the ground harmlessly and Venger comments how DM's powers are weak. DM just smiles and then the spell explodes and temporarily incapacitates Venger. DM and the kids escape the slave mines they were in, freed al the slaves and then with a gesture, DM used his power to destroy the mines with a volcanic eruption.Originally Posted by Steelclaw
Okay... here is what I would do with a new AD&D cartoon...
1) All the old characters are scrapped EXCEPT the Dungeon Master. I would bring him forward but with a slight twist. From the first episode it would be apparent that HE is the one manipulating everything. At first he claims he is just someone who "finds heroes to bring to worlds that need saving" but as the series goes on it becomes more and more apparent that he is manipulating the villains as well. Perhaps this is just some semi-sadistic entertainment for him or maybe he is a diety of neutrality/balance/conflict? Who knows?
The kids were astonished at DM's power and were puzzled at his being captured until Ranger said "unless he wanted to be captured". DM just kind of smiled at him.
DM seemed to be force for good back in the old cartoon but seemed bound by some rules or code that dictated he not use his power much but pull the strings of others. -
Quote:Oh I remember that scandal about Kirby's artwork, as I recall Marvel had no choice what with all the pressure against them and they returned his artwork.Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
More than just money. For a start, not only creative control over the characters he'd come up with, e.g. Captain America, but also the return of his original art, which was such a scandal in the 80s that Marvel eventually had to acquiesce and change their company policy so that artists would be guaranteed their original art would be returned. (Incidentally, this isn't over. Retired editor-in-chief Jim Shooter has been indulging in historical revisionism over this, among other topics, on his blog and has had to be thoroughly schooled by people who know better.)
Marc Toberoff, the lawyer suing Marvel on behalf of Jack Kirbys heirs, plans to appeal Thursdays ruling by New York federal judge Colleen McMahon that the Kirby estate had no claim to copyrights on the superheroes Kirby co-created for Marvel Comics. We respectfully disagree with the courts ruling and intend to appeal this matter to the Second Circuit, Toberoff told The Hollywood Reporter. Sometimes you have to lose in order to win. -
Quote:This.Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
As long as Kirby still gets credited, I'm fine with this.
However this is where some of the problem I think also lies. In the later years, Kirby and Marvel had some bad blood between them (guess what: over money) and I don't know if all that was resolved before his death.
Marvel really should give more credit to Kirby and maybe a few special Kirby tribute collections of his work. -
Quote:That still happens to me at times with the trials more then normal mishes. Nowadays my MM just enter trial then summon up the pets.Originally Posted by JayboH
Now if they could just permanently fix stuck pets without having to enter a command and fix the team window problem...
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Quote:From a legal standpoint, there is the point of view that Marvel owns them and that they feel Kirby and his estate deserve nothing.Originally Posted by Zikar
Really though? I mean, we all think of Marvel as the bad guys because they are a big corporation, but an agreements an agreement. If he worked For Hire then he worked For Hire, why should Marvel relinquish their rights because Kiby's Estate don't like the fact they're not getting any money?
From a moral standpoint: there is the viewpoint that if it weren't for Jack that many of these characters wouldn't exist at all or in the form they exist now, so pay up.
Currently the evidence supports the legal standpoint. Whether it is ultimately right or wrong depends on one's point of view. -
Quote:If you are referring to the Superman case, I believe there are some fundamental differences between the two cases.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
I wonder how Marvel could win this after DC lost their case. o.O
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman#Copyright_issues
Here's a tidbit about another Superman movie:
A July 9, 2009, verdict on the case denied a claim by Siegel's family that it was owed licensing fees. U.S. District Court judge Stephen G. Larson said Warner Bros. and DC Comics have fulfilled their obligations to the Siegels under a profit-sharing agreement for the 2006 movie Superman Returns and the CW series Smallville. However, the court also ruled that if Warner Bros. does not start a new Superman film by 2011, the family will have the right to sue to recover damages
Any more questions about why DC seems a bit...over eager to get another movie going?
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Quote:As long as we humanity one day gets to Mars, I'm not really going to care whose flag is flying there first.Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
Sadly true...there is still hope for the Robin Reliant based shuttle though, who knows what the future holds, especially now James May has been with American Astronauts (using that plane that can reach the very edge of the atmosphere) in order to get better research.
So perhaps one day, it'll be the British flag flying on Mars.
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Quote:Yes that is indeed Strongheart that appeared in the cartoon with a golden hammer.Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
See my mind had done the exact same thing. Prior to rewatching the first episode recently I could have sworn the pilot episode had them meeting up at the amusement park, them talking to each other, us being introduced to the characters and character traits before them hitching a ride on the DnD rollercoaster at the very least.
It's weird how your brain goes "nah...they couldn't just leap straight in like that...even Visionaries had three episodes devoted to the origin story and that only lasted 13 episodes."
Oh and while I remember
One of the Episodes I watched today actually had a character named Strongheart in it. He had a fancy helmet and a Golden hammer as his weapon...I'm curious OLantern since you remember the toys, were these the items the actual toy came equipped with?
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Ok that was the dude in the Episode but the weapon was golden hammer and not a basic sword.
Interestingly there has been atleast 3 characters from the toyline (including Strongheart) to turn up in the show within the first 12 episodes.
Kelek was the villain in the episode where he was taking the horns of the unicorns so that he could master the power of teleportation that the horns gave the unicorns, thinking it was the ultimate power over matter and that his power would then surpass Venger's.
Dungeon Master gives a clue to the kids "Sometimes your enemy is your strongest ally". Presto figures out the clue and attempts to use his magic hat to summon Venger, Cavalier is of course freaking out at that idea but instead of bringing Venger to them, Presto gets zapped to Venger's castle. Upon realizing where he was and Venger about to blast him, Presto starts babbling about how he's there to AID Venger, Venger is of course puzzled until Presto says the magic words "Kelek thinks he can beat YOU now!" Venger then says "STOP! Kelek you say....begin at the beginning!" Venger then goes to dispose of Kelek, and wins the fight by using an imprisonment spell on him. -
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=33616
In a nutshell, all evidence currently shows that Kirby was indeed "work for hire" which means Marvel/Disney owns the characters Kirby helped create in the 60's and beyond. -
Quote:Don't tell Michael Bay....Originally Posted by Smersh
Sadly, I saw another Transformers movie.
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Quote:And hopefully the memory crash issues. Hopefully this fix tunes up the iTrials as they seemed to need some "optimization".Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It is
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Well the list was for top Sci-Fi icons of the 21st century.....so going by that line of thought I can see Mal beating Star Trek, and Star Wars, but the fact that he beat the Doctor in a UK survey is rather astonishing.
Anyway, kudos to Nathan Fillion.
Also I reiterate that IF Lucas ever completely remakes the classic Star Wars from scratch (yeah yeah I know, sacriledge! blah blah) then please get Nathan Fillion as the new Han Solo! -
Aside from pet customization, if MM's could gain the power to have the pets form a gestalt that would be fantastic.
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Quote:Can't remember for sure but I think in first edition D&D, Acrobat was the title for a certain level of the thief class and Cavalier was a title for a certain level of the Paladin class.Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
Gygax is listed as an Executive Producer and Advisor for the show and apparently did have some hand in it so I wouldn't be surprised if he took the classes from the show and added them later.
The official PnP version of the show was a 3.0 book IIRC, a friend has it sitting around somewhere. -
Quote:Crosses fingers that this helps resolve the memory error/lock up crashesOriginally Posted by Avatea
Patch notes for build 2060.201107262317.0.
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Quote:Long ago on the web was a copy of the script for what could have been the finale episode if had been made. Turned out that they were going to go the Darth Vader route in terms of Venger once being good, getting redeemed and assorted races the kids met being sent back to their homes by Dungeon Master and then DM opens a portal back to Earth and offers them the choice: Go home or stay for more adventures in the realm of Dungeons and Dragons.Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
Having been rewatching the series with a friend this interesting discussion came up.
"If you remade this for todays audience...what would you change?"
Now of course the big diehard fans would cry "nothing!" but it got us to thinking.
1) I'd personally go the old school route on the characters 'classes', Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief. Then I'd probably add in Ranger and Cavalier. To make the Fighter and Cavalier different I'd have one focused on Offensive power (probably wielding two swords...because everyone loves dual blade using characters) while the Cavalier would be more Defensive and the groups 'tank' character.
Now the Cleric brings up an interesting problem...mainly in more religious countries obviously and we all know that D&D has a history with the heavily Christian America (heck they don't like characters using Magic as a whole, let alone actively being a conduit for a made up deity). So careful ground would have to be trodden in that regards.
2) Give them proper (but still magical) weapons, it always seemed stupid having the Cavalier running around with JUST a shield. To get around this I'll take an example from a TV show I watched and have the enemies explode in clouds of red smoke when hit with a sword, thus keeping it decidely kid friendly.
3) Story arcs...the old series is very much a 'monster of the week' type deal due to the fact it was designed to be Syndicated heavily, thus was not allowed a proper beginning (mind you the opening does tell you everything you need to know) or a proper end (though that was apparently due to writer squabbling as neither could decide on how to end it and less to do with Syndication).
4) Setting, to be fair I'd probably keep the setting of the original show, other settings are a bit too gruesome for a kids show, Ravenloft, Darksun and Planescape are out, especially Planescape since that just enters into a whole new area of mind screwing.
Anyway that's just my thoughts, you guys ever thought about something like this, taking an old show and seeing if you could 'modernize' it...yes I know most things are a product of their time and should remain unchanged but hey the reboot of the Turtles was pretty damn good.
The classic game Baldur's Gate 2 had a couple of nods to the cartoon:
1. You could assemble and use the ranger's energy bow
2. A shop in town had a portrait of the ranger and another of the barbarian each with some text about how Tiamat ate them before they got home...and their little unicorn too. -
I hope broad sword isn't nerfed for brutes......I'm thinking of making an alt inspired by.....THE KURGAN!
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!