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Quote:I think also at the time that Editorial couldn't think of a good way to have HULK in the Civil War, so blasting him into space kept him out of that.Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
I know exactly why.
If Hulk killed someone, it contradicts everything that's been laid down about the character over 40 years.
If Reed Richards shot the Hulk into space without a good reason, it contradicts everything that's been laid down about *that* character for over 40 years.
The writer of FF put the murderous rampage in to give Richards a good reason. I guarantee he did not vett it with the writer of the Hulk book, and it's never been mentioned there. It was lazy writing, in order to give a character some contrived motivation. That way Richards can continue to look like a hero (instead of a goddamned Hitler, which is how he came across in Civil War). Then they'll forget the rampage and/or retcon it so that it wasn't the Hulk's fault, which will allow the Hulk to continue to look like a hero.
Over any long time scale these things happen in the comics biz. I hate how flaky comics continuity is, but that's just how it goes.
Given that Banner is multiple personalities I can see him and the Hulk personas having different views about superhuman registration.
Plus: if Banner/Hulk is against registering.....it's not like there would be much that anyone could do to force him
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Quote:Misstep? More like stepping off the edge and falling into the Grand Canyon. Viking THOR and the cajun commandos......ugh.Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Biggest misstep in the TV Hulk was the Thor movie. Daredevil worked OK since he really isn't super powerful but what they did with Thor was just embarrassing.
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I don't hate the movie, but it did have some flaws that made it feel lackluster.
Chief among them: Ryan Reynolds.
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Quote:Yes, that sounds about right. IF I recall, Jaga's ghost told Lion-O of the Sword of Plun-darr and how Jaga cast it down into the core of Thundera to destroy the sword but the power of the sword blewup the planet instead.Originally Posted by Unknown_User
From what I could make from the original series and recall from it. Slythe and his crew were from Planet Plun-darr and just raiders who stole resources from other planets, natural resources and its inhabitants as slave labor, to use on their planet. Also I think Slythe was after the Sword of Omens due to hearing about how powerful a weapon it was. I think in a later episode it was explained that Slythe was also secretly looking for the Sword of Plun-darr, a weapon that was equal to the Sword of Omens.
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Quote:Hm, well it should be a planetary or galactic threat to bring the Avengers in, so an Ultron army could fit the bill.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Personally I'm hoping that after they get Loki and the forming of the Avengers out of the way, we'll see them fight Ultron in the sequel. He's a major threat and he'll undoubtedly have a lot of robot minions for the Avengers to cut loose on.
I'd still want THANOS for the sequel and leave Loki for the first movie.
Hmmm and interesting idea: I wonder if in the Avengers movie we will get a moment similar to THOR #390 where THOR was separated from his hammer and the only one that could lift it and toss it back to him was.....Steve Rogers. Any respect THOR had for him at that point was instantly tripled since only the worthy can lift the hammer. -
Quote:When they brought in the three new Thundercats in the old series, at first they were just Thunderans and stated that per Thundercat society rules normal Thunderans couldn't live in the royal palace/cat's lair. However Lion-O felt they had more then proven themselves and used the sword of omens to make them into Thundercats, they now had the Thundercat symbol and whatever power boost comes from being a Thundercat.Originally Posted by Beastyle
I really enjoyed the pilot. I like the redone personalities and mythology so far, and I particularly like the idea that the Thundercats are a privileged empire, while all the other animals are treated as lower-class beings; it's a good motivation for the lizards to oppose them. Looking forward to seeing more.
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Quote:I agree that in the movie the Red SKull was tapping only a microfraction of the cube's power. At the end though he made it clear that he felt he should walk with the gods, etc etc and that he's seen the future, etc etc. So when the cube ges knocked loose by Cap and Skull picks it up, it is now activated for that moment and it granted the skull his desire.......power and to be "with the gods". But as we all know there is the old phrase "beware what you wish for". The Skull appears to have gotten his wish, but what form did it take is the real question.Originally Posted by Lycantropus
That's easy. The Asguardian's knew about it but couldn't locate it because of what it was. Due to the time involved they probably just assumed it lost and that they would find it eventually (they're immortal after all).
SPOILERS...
As for S.H.I.E.L.D. knowing nothing about the cube, that's not true. They knew what the Red Skull thought it was, but probably couldn't get any more information about it than that (and were probably afraid to try too hard). Though having tied it to the Asguardians, the scientist that actually had some interraction with Thor was a prime candidate for figuring out what it was.
The Red Skull probably only tapped into the smallest ammount of power it possessed, just able to power weapons and his ship with it. Remember, the cosmic cube can do pretty much ANYTHING that can be imagined. That would barely be a blip on Odin's radar, and it was shut down before it really did anything that might. Though it adds a whole new dimension to the idea that Loki has seen it in Thor. I'm sure he knows what it is...
The Red Skull actually touching it? Well according to the original stories, he was trapped inside the 'dimension' of the cube itself, but based on what has been shown, that's highly subjective, and probably the case only in what they could mentally grasp happening to him. He's probably 'out there' somewhere. Fates' willing and the franchise continues, I have no doubt he'll be brought back. Most likely by Loki in some future movie, or at least shown the way. The Avengers movie? Doubtful, but he may be in the next specific Cap movie if they make one. That's kinda how it played out in the comics and I see no reason it shouldn't be repeated in the movies.
Hopefully in the Avengers movie Fury will state that while Cap did smash Hydra and the Skull which was a major factor in winning the war, that Hydra remnants remained and SHIELD was formed to counter them and other threats. Thus Captain America could be said to have helped inspire the creation of SHIELD.
I still read rumors that Loki+skrulls+thanos are the big threat for the Avengers movie but to me that seems a bit along the lines of overkill. Loki alone is enough of a threat to get the team to form, throw in the cosmic cube and he's even more powerful.
The Skrulls on their own should be enough also, but what if Loki makes contact with the Skrulls and offers to aid them?
If Thanos is in the movie I hope that he's in the sequel teaser questing after the Cosmic Cube. Thanos is more then enough of a threat to carry a movie, and where there is Thanos we just might get certain characters like: Drax the Destroyer, Adam Warlock, and of course......Captain Mar-Vell. -
no memory crashes for me since the last patch, but during the grenade section of Lamba my client spontaneously closed without error.
Also for the Lamba map, that bright building and billboard near the entrance point really should have their colors dimmed a bit.
BAF has been more agreeable for me on the prisoner stage since the last patch. Still, it's not perfect and I hope for more optimization patches and soon. -
Here's some new data: issue 21 comes before issue 22!
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Quote:Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no "hatred for what they did to my comics" in how I feel regarding the Kirby case.Originally Posted by BrandX
Seeing this post and others, it really seems to be akin to those million dollar lawsuits against bigname companies.
Were the jury awards the plantiff because the defendant is a billion dollar company, nevermind the fact that the plantiff should of known the coffee was hot.
This seems to be the same thing. Side with Kirby because Marvel's a big company with some possible "I hate what they've done to my comics" mixed in. -
Quote:I'd like to review the testimony that was stricken and the reason for why it was ordered striked from the record.Originally Posted by tpull
The duress question is what is still open, but I'm pretty sure any company that thought they could still get away with back-of-the-check contracts would still be doing it if they thought they could get away with it from a legal standpoint. No industry tries it today, and in the wake on the Enron scandal and the latest bailout shenanigans, you can't tell me there aren't people who wouldn't be willing to try and get away with it. The duress question was not addressed in any ruling to date, because it was not considered. From a legal standpoint,you can't argue that there was no duress when the question hasn't been put to the court. But you keep changing the subject from whether there was duress or not, when the real question is if a contract is valid just because both parties signed it. No matter how many times you say it, that's just not true. Whether that will be the final determination in this particular case is still open to question, but the fact is, there are plenty of cases where the court has ruled that a contract is not valid, despite having the signature of both parties.
In point of fact, Kirby did leave Marvel and go over to DC and write a bunch of other titles, so you kind of proved my point. If you read any of the links mentioned earlier in this thread, it takes you to interviews with Kirby where he talks about the check thing, and him moving over to DC, and how he felt at the time he didn't have much choice but to sign the checks, to support his family, but concedes maybe it was cowardice and he should have taken a stand sooner.
It's weird to see you insist "it's not false" when there are all sorts of rulings out there that declare contracts null and void, or otherwise illegitimate. I'm not sure how you think you can ignore the rest of reality:
http://contractsknowledge.com/duress...-into-contract
North Ocean Shipping Co v Hyundai Construction Co Ltd (The Atlantic Baron) [1979] QB 705
Occidental Worlwide Investment Corporation v Skins A/S Avanti (The Sibeon and the Sibotre) [1976]
Agreement was not compulsorily but voluntarily entered into
Both concluded that 'duress of goods' existed
As for "under duress" I can see Kirby and others at the time being under duress when these so called contracts were signed . I hope the judge really takes a long hard look at that and contemplates the term "under duress" and makes a well thought decision. Preferably in favor of Kirby, but then I tend to root for the underdog which is definitely Kirby, and I am a major fan of his work. -
Quote:Must still be further litigation pending then.Originally Posted by tpull
That's the latest thing I heard, too.
To me though, while this can be said to be a money grab by the Siegel/Schuster estate, both Siegel and Schuster themselves were trying for years to regain ownership before their deaths, and I think they started the legal process again before their deaths and the estate is continuing the fight as both to honor the wishes of Siegel/Schuster and of course for money.
For the Kirby estate, they believe they have a claim to ownership as copyright laws indicate that ownership is allegedly expiring soon. The issue is whether they really have a claim or if Marvel has the ownership since day one. To me this feels like partly a money grab and partly justice for Jack. I'm definitely for the justice for Jack part. -
Quote:Which is partly why I posted my theory a few posts back that perhaps it was Howard' studies of the tesseract/cube that led to his work on the Arc Reactor, and that he was trying to synthesize the tesserect/cube element and couldn't due to the tech of the era not being up to the task, hence he leaves his notes and clues for Tony to pick up on in Iron Man 2.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Just because Stark recovered it 60 odd years ago doesn't mean he immediately turned it over to the government.
Tony then finishes his father's work, the new element easily outperforms paladium and isn't toxic to him and the new mini reactor in his chest is stronger then the previous models.
So now that Fury knows Tony finished Howard's work and reading the reports about the tesseract he decides it is time to have it studied again, hence he shows it to the scientist in THOR. -
Quote:Uhm, the tesseract/cube was shown in the Cap movie being retrieved by a subsea robot, Howard Stark orders the search to continue even though there is no wreckage in the area and the energy signature of the tesseract stopped at that spot since that is where the thing landed after it burned its way thru the hull of the Skull's flying wing.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Did it appear in Odin's armory, though? I didn't catch everything that was in there when I saw Thor. At first I thought that maybe the Cosmic Cube was inside that blue box and everyone was using it to freeze stuff cuz that was the perception it had taken on, but after reading the Walt Simonson Thor Omnibus I realized it was the Casket of Winters.
That object that Fury shows the scientist in the THOR bonus scene was the tesseract/cosmic cube. So we know how SHIELD got its hands on it, thanks to the events in Captain America.
Yes, in THOR that was indeed the Casket of Ancient Winters, from Walt Simonson's classic run. -
Quote:Anyone know what the current Superman case status is? Last I read it was that the estate won back the rights to Action Comics #1 and that the judge told DC/Warner that if they want to keep the movie rights they must have a movie started by 2011, hence all the early buzz and casting for the reboot movie. Any updates?Originally Posted by tpull
The judge didn't rule on this part of the law, the decision was made about another aspect entirely. Your generalization was "It doesn't matter what a contract is written on. It could be written in crayon on toilet paper, as long as it's signed it's still valid." That generalization is false. That's what the entire discussion about duress was.
And this was the first stage, and may not be the final way it all shakes out. Toberoff lost a few parts of the Superman case early on, and those were later overturned. -
Quote:Let's just hope that having a tail doesn't cause them any....problems... when they look at a full moon.Originally Posted by Dr_Illuminatis
It could be as they grow older the tails contract and get absorbed by the body once they reach puberty.
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Quote:Yes, that is when Peggy started to notice him as something more then a sickly kid.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I don't know what version of the movie you were watching but the one I saw showed the girl noticing him and smiling when he outsmarted all the big guys at the flagpole.
The looks on the soldier's faces was priceless, but the Drill Sargeant looked like he respected Rogers at that point. Too bad Tommy Lee's character didn't see that, his reaction would have been probably about as funny as his reaction and commentto Erskine after Rogers threw himself onto the grenade.
Plus no soldier there could complain about what Rogers did to get the flag. They were just told to "get the flag", no said HOW it was to be obtained. -
Quote:Yep I noticed that. Doesn't mean he went to Asgard though, and if he did he'd likely be imprisoned or executed by the Asgardians.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Yeah but we know damn well what it is.
And when Red Skull was blasted, he went up, and it looked pretty similar to the effect of being transported by the Bifrost Bridge. Didn't anyone else notice that?
"This mere mortal dared misuse the tesseract of ODIN!" Also a mortal in Asgard is generally frowned upon I would think.
It is also possible that the cube made the skull one with the cosmos, similar to what Thanos used the cube for back in the Captain Mar-Vell series. Only Thanos retains his consciousness and thus IS the universe whereas the Skull simply merged and disipated into the universe. -
Quote:Hm, well let's not forget one important thing: in the comics after Cap was lost in the ice, others stepped forward to be Captain America to maintain appearances and morale. Perhaps the shield in Tony's lab are the remains of the shields given to the replacement Caps?Originally Posted by mousedroid
Saw the movie and enjoyed it quite a bit.
Couple questions - Didn't we get a glimpse of a certain red, white and blue shield in Tony Stark's lab in the first Iron Man movie? I guess that was a prototype or something.
Also, is Marvel not allowed to use the term adamantium in their movies because of Fox owning the rights to the X-Men and Wolverine franchises? 'Cause I could swear Cap's shield is a unique, irreproducable alloy of adamantium and vibranium, not pure vibranium.
Hmmm, maybe that's what the shield is in Tony's lab - a subsequent alloyed version that contains adamantium. -
Quote:It was called that in the movie, hence why I refer to it as the tesseract. Trust me, I know it's the cosmic cube and I know the cube's history in the comics.Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Why do you keep calling the Cosmic Cube the tesseract? o.O
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Quote:Possibly but the sample that blew up on him sure appears to be gone. Also since they retrieved the tesseract, Stark may have done some study of it before it was tossed into SHIELD's warehouse/vault until Fury shows it to the scientist in THOR.Originally Posted by ThugOne
Is it gone? Steve got the sample from a Hydra weapons "clip". Several of the rescued soldiers walked in the gate carrying Hydra weapons, and they had a functioning blaster-tank along. Any of them could have provided another sample.
So the question still remains: did Howard try to synthesize the tesseract energies as part of his arc reactor work and it was Tony that finished the job in IM2? -
So anyway, Howard Stark is analyzing the tesseract element that Steve obtained from the Hydra base and it blows up on him.....so Howard sees both how volatile it is and how much energy it could theoretically have....but now the sample is gone. They later retrieve the tesseract itself but I wonder....it's revealed in IM2 that Howard was working on a new energy source that would have the arc reactor make the nuclear reactor look like a battery by comparison. But he was limited by the technology of his era and couldn't synthesize the element....
...was Howard trying to create a new energy/element based off his studies of the tesseract fragment that Steve gave him? Upon failing he ends up using paladium instead as a substitute but it still doesn't have the output that Howard was hoping for so the arc reactor was considered a "bust" with no future development until years later when Tony shrinks it down in size and plugs it into his chest for life-support. Then later the palladium is slowly killing Tony until Fury gives him some antidote and his father's notes and Tony is able to figure things out and finish his father's work by synthesizing the new element which outmodes paladium and provides more power for his armor and life-support?
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Perhaps it's time that the Vet badge that allows travel powers without a prerequisite should be changed to affect all pool powers, yes Patron and Ancillary also.
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Quote:Still occurs but seems a bit decreased. If you leave the league unlocked and suffer the 90 second wait time IF the league isn't full, then the teams shouldn't be scrambled. If the league is full and you leave it unlocked you should still not be scrambled.Originally Posted by TitoVendetta
I havent had the chance to do more than browse the forums since the patch has there been any improvement in the trails as far as team drops and team scrambles?
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Quote:Yeah, I could see the D&D cartoon being updated, but I suspect that many of the old "D&D = satanic influence over kids" arguements would also return. Then again these people probably either didn't blink an eye over Harry Potter, or else would condemn Harry Potter also.Originally Posted by Steelclaw
I respectfully disagree.
(NOTE: For those who have not yet seen the new Thundercats cartoon and want to, do NOT read beyond this point due to SPOILERS, SPOILERS, SPOILERS!!)
I just watched the new revamp of another 80's cartoon Thundercats. Not only did they show war, bigotry and racial prejudice, they ALSO included death as a primary focus of their pilot episode.
Indeed, they had what amounted to attempted genocide that quite nearly succeeded.
Death is part of the current cartoon scene. The present audience for cartoons is NOT the same one it was when I was a child. For one thing, more and more adults watch cartoons today than ever before. Also, the influence of Anime and Manga has made even the young viewers want more meat to their cartoon.
Thundercats handled the death about the same way I would if I were re-writing Dungeons and Dragons. They did not SHOW death unless it was pivotal to the plot, but instead inferred it. You saw a bridge filled with people. You saw the bridge explode and then only saw two people get up after the explosion.
No flying body parts. No brain hitting a wall and slowly ooooozing down it. But still, you got the idea. People died. People were killed.
The audience is older. The methods are smoother. I feel that the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon could be updated in much the same manner Thundercats has been.
On a side note, if you have not yet seen the new version and you loved the old Thundercats, I heartily recommend watching it. When Lion-O held up the Sword of Omens and said those words for the first time I had gooseflesh.
Yeah, I'm a sap like that.
As to Thundercats, I liked the reboot. But as to death in cartoons back in the 80's the original Thundercats started with them escaping Thundera as it exploded. Genocide in the 80's pilot too.