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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Garielle View Post
    My assumption since it was "Daddy" that it is a question being asked by MISS Liberty, who died in part 3 and is in Heaven. Well, at least we hope she's in heaven, and not the other place. That would be an interesting twist. But yeah, I think the folks that predicted maybe Statesman would do something to save Miss Liberty after the fact to bring her back may be on target.

    I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that I suspect I know who may be taking his place. At the Player Summit, the developers stated that they were "moving towards" bringing Hero 1 back into the fold. He would be a logical candidate to step up and take the helm, even if Statesman was NOT going to die. So, I think this may tie into moving that storyline forward.
    Yes but first Hero 1 needs to be cleansed of his Rikti infection.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by konshu View Post
    We might consider that maybe States meets his fate simply to return later in the arc with a new costume.
    This. We have no way of knowing if this is a permanent death, or even if States is faking his death.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ghantana View Post
    I'm curious myself to see what happens to Maria's Arc as well as the STF and LRSF. Also wondering if they removed Mrs. Liberty from that one villian arc where you had to defeat her and Ms. Liberty... gonna have to look that one up and check it out...



    Though I can say this... Hey LR, grab the cronies... it's time to play in AP.
    I can't see those arc's changing as they are in the "past" and Who Will Die is in the "present" time of the game.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post
    While there's a perverse case to be made for MacGruber as an underrated writer-star project, Howard the Duck remains a touchstone of missing the point in an adaptation of a nostalgia-rich creative property - one which was lost on the producers of the movie adaptation-remakes of Bewitched, The Honeymooners, The Flintstones, The Smurfs, Fat Albert, The Dukes of Hazard, and Land of the Lost. This Stooges movie may well be the next on that list.
    Flintstones with John Goodman as Fred I liked, now the sequel/prequel Viva Rock Vegas....well that should be filed under the "we shall not speak of" category.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post
    Exactly. The fundamental appeal of the Stooges wasn't that they were stupid and violent but that they were incompetent at whatever they attempted to do, whether plumbing (the quintessential "A-Plumbing We Will Go") or space travel (even the later Three Stooges in Orbit has the classic line "Push buttons! Push buttons!"). Seen from a skewed perspective, they're working-class heroes, trying to do a job as best they can, even if the results are mayhem, shambles, and eye-pokes. (Contrast this to the Marx Brothers, who were also always on the make, but as schemers, not workers.) It's likely that this movie will miss out on the opportunity of updating this aspect of the Stooges for a contemporary audience facing an economy that's the worst since the one in which they achieved their mainstream populaity.
    Agreed. This movie is going to tank and tank hard. It will probably do as well as the Macgruber movie did (budget 10 million, box office 9 million), or about as well as Howard the Duck.

    Now what they SHOULD have done (aside from leaving the Stooges alone), would be to go through all the Columbia shorts and with the magic of CGI and computer technology taken footage and dialogue from the shorts to form up a new contemporary movie. I'd rather see a 3D animated Stooge movie using the voices from the old skits then a live action one with pretenders to the throne.

    Frankly I'd rather watch the Mel Gibson produced movie about the Stooges, despite some inaccuracies especially some omissions about the Healy years, it was a fun watch.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Knuckleheads, all of ya.

    Sean Hayes is uncanny in mannerisms if not build. But frankly some gags in the trailer would never have made even the laziest of the Stooges' reels: and after the Hanna Barbera cartoons, the assorted other replacements and revivals, they should be left to rest peacefully.
    Ah but one must remember that the cartoon episodes of the stooges were geared for the kids, not general audiences like the classic shorts were. Though the skits the stooges made to bookend the cartoons weren't bad. They can be found on DVD at Netflix, minus the cartoons which is good.

    Also the fact that they brought back the eyepoke...well like I said previously, that is going to come back and haunt them. The Stooges retired it after Have Rocket Will Travel since kids were seeing their movies now as well as the classics on reruns on TV.
  7. Well in true comic book fashion, I must now ask the question: is this a permanent death or a typical comic book death where there is a loophole somewhere that will allow his return?

    Also how will Recluse take this? If anyone should kill Statesman it should be him,in his opinion, and now he has been deprived of his goal. That will make for an unhappy Recluse I would think.

    Also we are presuming that Statesman isn't going to fake his death and disappear for a few decades so that he can be left alone.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
    You missed the importance of the lines...
    "There are things out there you don't need to know."
    "That's not the lie you told me when you recruited me."
    "I promised you the secrets of the universe. Nothing more."
    "Well what other secrets are there?"

    Then we go to explosions scenes and then J walking in looking for K and then the Time Jump scene

    Time travel is obviously a secret within the universe...

    So what obviously happens is that K goes dimension hopping, J somehow follows getting dumped in a universe where K died years ago. J then goes back to the past where past-K-2 works with J and learns about multiple universes and J ultimately gets home.

    I predict K or J will be the villain ultimately...

    My question however is what will the crazy brain twist at the end for the tag be as the end has always been "You still don't get it" and then the camera zooms out revealing the a gag in the movie is applicable to them as well... the first time was that the Galaxy which we experience as marble for the entire we're a marble on another cosmic level... the second time was the stuck in the locker and then K busts open a door and reveals they're stuck in a locker. So I wonder what the brain bender thing will be.
    I don't think it's a multiverse issue so much as history has changed. Perhaps an alien from the present pulled a "Skynet" as it were and managed to get back in time and kill K. Present K knew the paradox was coming for years but told no one, not even Zed or J for fear of making a bad thing worse, so K has to string J along and not tell him everything to help ensure that things go as they should.
  9. Yeah.....wonder how that is going to be touched on.
  10. I remember reading about there being some time travel in this one.

    So let's see now, based on what I saw in the trailer:

    1. Agent K in the present tells J that there are things he doesn't need to know.
    2. The present seems to have altered so that only J remembers K.
    3. J goes back and meets young K and the early incarnation of MIB.

    Speculation: K of the present knew of the time shift/paradox due to his meeting J when he was younger but had to give the "things you don't need to know" line to J because he couldn't tell him for fear of making an even worse time paradox.

    J is now in the past and MIB doesn't appear to be as tech sophisticated as they are in the future....perhaps a technological grandfather paradox in that J will introduce some future tech to MIB that they will begin to utilize, such as the Neuralyzer perhaps.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    The stooges seemed to be pretty dead on.

    I think the scenes showing Larry, seemed to really nail it.

    The downside I see, is while yes The Three Stooges were slapstick comedy, it looks like they're going the route of Starky and Hutch or the new 21 Jump Street, where they don't make the remake in the same tone, and tend to just make fun of the premise and everything about the original.
    I always felt Larry was the hardest to copy/imitate in terms of appearance, voice and capturing the character. Moe and Curly are easy.

    Of course the real trick is getting the 3 copies to synergize as well as the originals. Moe, Larry, Curly, and Moe Shemp Larry all sync'd up well to each other. Moe Larry and Joe Besser.....not quite.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steelclaw View Post
    As an unofficial honorary Stooge...

    This actually looks pretty good to me. While I greatly respect the classics and no one will replace Curly in my heart (especially Schemp and Curly-Joe)... the routines were pretty dead-on.. the humor translated well to a modern audience and the actors SOUNDED so much like the originals (especially Larry) that it actually spooked me out a little bit.

    I might not see it in the theater but it's definitely worth a look see when it comes out for On-Demand.
    Strictly speaking the original Stooges incarnation was Moe, Larry and Shemp when they worked for Ted Healy in Vaudeville. Shemp got sick of Healy (for good reason) and left to pursue a successful solo career. Curly replaced him in the Vaudeville act and eventually all three of them left Healy for good and signed to Columbia. Shemp returned after Curly's stroke while filming Half Wit's Holiday and the deal was once Curly got his health back Shemp would leave again, but that didn't happen.

    The all time WORST replacement was Joe Besser, who came in after Shemp died. 16 shorts, about 8 were remakes of classic Curly and Shemp skits, the remakes all pretty much were bad, and of the non remakes maybe 4 were good.

    Curly-Joe DeRita worked with them after Besser left due to his sick wife. He was on tour with the Stooges and did the movies with them, and was the closest they got to a Curly copy and even revived a couple of Curly routines like the Maharaja routine and the pop goes the weasel song driving him crazy. Still not Curly of course but very close.

    This movie though, I dunno. All the classics had themes that were of the times, such as the depression, the return of prosperity, of course the parodying of the Ratzi's...in fact the Stooges were the first to start that and Moe is the first to suit up as a parody of a certain dictator (You Nazty Spy), beating Charlie Chaplin by a few months, in the 50's shorts some of them dealt with UFO and space travel and aliens. So what would be a good MODERN stooge plot? Having them do to today's terrorists what they did to the Ratzi's back in the day?
  13. 1300 as of now, 1301 in a few days when final FW Day Job dings, then another 2 from Winter Event...now if they just fix the yearly vet badges...
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade View Post
    Blake had some good moments, funny (Boom!) and serious (the arthritis thing), and he was part of the funniest seasons of MASH, but I've got to go with Potter as my favorite CO of the 4077th. Potter was comfortable with his authority and he'd been around the block a few times. He knew when to give his people free reign and when to crack the whip. And I love the fact that he didn't take crap from anybody, be they superior officers, ferret-faced subordinates, or deranged CIA operatives.
    Yeah, Potter even kept Hawkeye in line a few times, especially the time when RADAR was wounded and Hawkeye blamed himself. Hawkeye ends up yelling at RADAR in postop then back in the swamp Potter enters and just lets Hawkeye have it.
  15. So now comes the inevitable question: who was better, Lt. Colonel Henry Blake or Colonel Potter?

    Both were good surgeons and doctors, but Blake's leadership at times....well sometimes I think he was walking around with a constant concussion when he was sober. Hawkeye also noticed that Blake was starting to show signs of arthritis and offered to write up the medical discharge forms but Blake told him he can do more doctoring at the 4077th then he ever could at home since his patients at home were all basic text book cases, no challenges. So Blake had an out and didn't take it.

    Colonel Potter was a career army man with plenty of stories to tell and a whole lot of experience as a leader. He also wasn't fooled like Blake was when RADAR would come up to him while he's on the phone and gets him to sign forms and then Potter tells him to wait and after the call he asks what he just signed. Also Potter didn't take a fraction of the insubordinate behavior from Frank and Hot Lips that Blake did. Potter even told Hawkeye once that he was thinking of taking Frank behind the motor pool and "let the air out of his tire" so Potter definitely didn't take any guff, he even stood his ground against Col. Flagg.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    I actually wonder how the show would of turned out if none left. Would of been completely different for sure, and I wonder if it would have lasted as long if they didnt.
    I don't think it would have ran as long. Gary Burghoff was getting weary of being RADAR plus a few other things as I recall and he decided it was time to go. Wayne Rogers was tired of being second string to Hawkeye plus a few other things and left, can't remember why McLean Stevenson left but I always suspected there was some spite on the part of the writers/producers for the last minute dialog change that said he was killed.
  17. From a slapstick standpoint it seems they definitely watched the Stooge shorts and practiced them well, including the infamous eyepoke....however when the Stooges in the 50's with Curly Joe began touring and performing on stage and making their movies, they decided the eye-poke should be retired since TV reruns of their shorts were exposing a new generation to their violence and they felt that the slapstick should be toned down and the eyepoke retired.

    Granted the eye-poke is classic Stooge, but most that try to imitate it don't realize that the target of the eye poke is getting hit in the eyebrow area and not directly in the eyes.

    Overall, the three of them in makeup do resemble the Stooges in appearance and they seem to have well rehearsed how to imitate the Stooges, but as a Stooge fan and historian....no. Just no. I might rent this via Netflix just out of morbid curiosity but I expect nothing good of this and it will likely shame the memory of the Stooges.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    I love that line from the series. It was a good episode. The show is a classic. And to Harry Morgan passing.
    Yeah most of the series is in my DVD library...I should see about getting the rest or else the entire box set. Though when RADAR left in mid Season 8, to me that was when most of the heart or innocence left the show. Imagine if Alan Alda/Hawkeye left.....that would have shut it down.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gobbledygook View Post
    Would that be this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpIgQ...eature=related

    I know as a Medic in a time of war, I myself have felt the same way at times.
    That was a good one and ranks up there with a little speech that Col. Blake gave to Hawkeye after an old friend of Hawkeye's died on the operating table. I think it went along the lines of:
    "There are two rules in war they taught me at command school, rule #1 is that young men die in a war and rule #2 is that doctors cannot change rule #1".

    Col. Potter was an excellent replacement for Col. Blake but I liked both characters as well.

    RIP Col. Potter! Salutes...... now lets head to the Swamp for a toast to his memory...
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nos482 View Post
    I hope there will be no Skrulls in this movie... they should be saved for a FF reboot.
    I don´t care if Avengers gets cluttered, but without the FF there´s no no reason to get Kl'rt in it. And he is my favourite anti-villain.
    One of the many rumors is that THANOS may appear in the post credits teaser clip to indicate he will be in the next Avengers movie.

    Here's hoping
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jet_Boy View Post
    Looks like ***. This movie continues to take hits left and right for me.
    It could be worse, ie: Elektra, Catwoman, Daredevil, Van Damme Street Fighter, first live action Guyver,.....
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rock_Crag View Post
    Ya know... I really hated the mask at first... but now that I think about it...

    There are several places on the mask that look like plugs and it got me thinking... Maybe this mask also serves a purpose. Perhaps there are tubes he can plug into the mask to get a dose of that 'medicine' he loves to much. In that case, I can totally excuse the displeasing aesthetics if it's for functionality's sake.
    I can see them doing that vs. having a tube plugged into the back of his brain to inject the venom.
  23. This sounds like a group of recently built/created Autobots that need to learn about humans and how they live and think (think Aerialbots and Technobots from original series), combined with the geared to younger audience writing of TF: Car Robots and Armada.....


    Oh for the days of the Beast Wars....
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