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True, Thanos in the movies may be trapped there in some realm or else his forces were so far away from Earth, that while they detected the tesseract they knew it would be a long time to get to it. Then Loki arrives and he and Thanos strike a bargain. Loki gets Earth, Thanos gets the tesseract.

In the comics the tesseract/cosmic cube is basically a cosmic powered Aladdin's Lamp. What it's wielder wants, becomes reality. Presuming that movie tesseract is on that power level, then it is better off in ODIN's weapons vault.

Also I do wonder what happened to Zola and his research over the years. SHIELD is trying to tap the energy of the tesseract but they still cannot despite Selvig's help, yet Zola in the 40's could. Also I still think that Howard Stark's research of the ammo and weapons Cap brought back to him for study then his later study of the tesseract is what led to the arc reactor research. Howard was probably trying to artificially replicate the tesseract and was limited by the tech of his era as they said in IM2 and left his research for Tony.

Trust me, it was no coincidence that Simon and Kirby made Steve Rogers after he got the SSS a 6 foot plus tall, blond haired, blue eyed man.

In fact go back and watch the movie, after the vita ray pod opens and everyone sees what Rogers has become, as the Colonel and Senator stand up you can hear someone say "Looks like they created an Aryan."

Yes but everyone was thinking it was a "Joss Death" and now we know it wasn't.

Which is good, but I can see why it was cut for cinema. The movie is called the Avengers and cannot devote time to focus on Cap's dilemma of being out of time. Perhaps some of that cut footage will be used in Cap 2?

As someone who can pilot I too find the scene a bit silly, but that was a rather advanced aircraft, and while he may have had some control over it, I am not positive that the bombs weren't set to auto drop on targets if he got within target range. Also had he crashed the plane the bombs may have exploded and that could have been bad. I'd have to rewatch it later on but I think the bombs were armed when he looked at the readouts and felt there was no other way. Now if there was a parachute on board he could have set the plane on crash course and then parachuted out only to still be frozen.

As to the classic comic scene of him and Bucky on the drone plane, yeah that still is pretty good and we got a different version of that in the movie with Bucky holding on to the train as Cap reached for him.

Still as you say, that had to get him on ice somehow. I wonder if any deleted Avengers footage has him looking up the history files on his old comrades and Peggy or if it is all saved for Cap 2. I still suspect that if Howard Stark helped start SHIELD, that Peggy and Cap's Commandos were original SHIELD agents.

Whedon was indicating about 30 minutes at least was cut from Avengers for the cinema.

Before he got the serum in the movie, Rogers was already very intelligent. He appeared to study every book he could get his hands on and did try to keep up with the training despite being bullied as well as being a weakling. After all, he did outsmart the rest of the squad with the flagpole test which shows he is smart and adapts to situations.

After the serum amps him up, it only took a brief glance at a Hydra map for him to redraw the map back at base and mark the locations of their bases. This tells me his memory recollection is now augmented, possibly to photographic memory levels. So as far as things like weapons usage and vehicle handling he likely read every manual he could find, also any books on combat training and hand to hand combat he likely would read as well. Just because the senator made him into a "chorus girl" as the Tommy Lee called him doesn't mean that he wasn't studying on the side as he awaited the promise from the senator of his own platoon.

As to the crashing of the plane in the arctic waters, I don't see why people scoff at him for doing that. The plane was on course for new york and was loaded with tesseract-bombs that were likely precursors to the atomic bomb. They said that the Skull had the fire power to wipe out the Eastern seaboard. Ditching the bombs may not have been possible without them going off, also as smart and capable as he was I don't think there was enough time to get Howard Stark on the line and then Cap would have to tell Howard what the controls and gauges all look like and then Howard has to try to figure out how to tell Cap how to land the plane safely somewhere so that neither it nor the bombs explode. Also that was a flying wing, a bit advanced for the time and Howard was having trouble earlier when he was studying the submarine that Steve captured along with the Hydra assassin. So could Howard have helped Cap land the plane? Maybe, maybe not.

Also, it is not as if Cap wiped out all of Hydra's bases in a day or a week or a month. It would take time to set things up and move troops into position and prep for the attacks. During that time I suspect Cap was getting some off screen training and studying done to make sure he was ready.

Well in the movie the bifrost is a wormhole generator but it only activates from within Asgard so restoring the bifrost shouldn't be opening the gates to invasion.

If repairing the bridge by himself would put ODIN into hibernation then that would be a bad idea unless THOR agrees to stay in Asgard until ODIN awakes.

As to Thanos, if he wants to invade Asgard he can since he IS Thanos. I'm sure he knows ways to get into Asgard without the bifrost.

Can THOR beat Thanos in a straight up fight? Barely. Thanos would have the advantage. ODIN could take down Thanos but it would be costly for ODIN to do so.

If ODIN in the movies is as powerful as he is in the comics he should be able to restore the bifrost himself, even if the effort puts him into the Odinsleep from exhaustion. However the tesseract and Odin combined could easily fix bifrost.

Yeah the terms between them weren't specified completely. Basically the Chitauri and their then mysterious leader that gave Loki the staff wanted the tesseract for reasons not stated. Loki gets Earth with the aid of the Chitauri and in turn he gives them the tesseract.

After taking over Earth, Loki would likely set his sights on the other realms including Asgard and seek to conquer them and then take on Asgard.

As for why the Chitauri and Thanos wanted the tesseract, well Thanos knows things about the tesseract/cosmic cube and he may well have wanted it for the same reasons he did way back in the 70's......to become the universe itself and thus all powerful.

Also if that truly is the Infinity Gauntlet in Asgard's weapons vault, Thanos would be much better off with that as it was stated that the gems come from the residue of the big bang and are much more linked to the universe then the tesseract/cube.

Loki learned of Jane Foster in THOR's movie. When THOR regained his hammer and returned to Asgard to have words with Loki they began to fight. During the fight, Loki taunted THOR about what had made him so soft now and then said it must be the girl he met on Earth. Then said that after he kills THOR, that he will visit her! This naturally ticked THOR off.....

If memory serves, Galen was there to aid them in seeking a cure but also to keep Shadow tech out of Earth hands and there was going to be a conspiracy arc about that.

Also the cure was to be found midway through season 2, and then the series would focus on what happened to the Captain's ship that was destroyed while he was EVA, and an overall larger conspiracy. Plus I think JMS wanted the Captain killed for a bit only to be revived by that "Apocalypse Box" that he had.

Sentry has been dead since SIEGE, no word of his return yet. But the door was left open for his comeback. Also what I didn't like is that he was marketed as a "forgotten creation of Stan Lee" which was later revealed to be false and only a marketing ploy. False advertising? Plus I was not a fan of how he was shoehorned into continuity by saying that he erased the world's memories of him.

IF Marvel really feels they need a "Superman" they already have THOR, but if another one must be created, make him a new hero and none of his continuity shoehorning garbage.

Yes, Loki wants revenge on THOR and what better way then to wreck Earth and enslave the humans? As to Asgard, until ODIN enters another hibernation I don't think Loki would attack unless he had the tesseract at his full command or the infinity gauntlet.

As to Loki knowing the Avenger candidates before hand, he indeed had been manipulating Selvig as he studied the tesseract, also I suspect Loki used his magic to scan the minds of Fury and Black Widow to learn of the Avengers Initiative and the candidates that Fury had in mind.

Also, Loki likely mind scanned them all when he first met them in the movie and thus was able to divine which mental strings to pull via his staff to get them all arguing in Banner's lab. Loki wasn't making them argue so much as getting them to argue via pumping up the egos of some (Stark) as well as making everyone irritable and thus more prone to argue. Notice that Banner didn't realize he had the staff in his hand until it was pointed out to him, and also that Rogers and Stark both winced as if suffering a headache after they argued and then saw Banner holding the staff. The look on Banner's face also made it clear he didn't know he had grabbed the staff. All that agitation and frustration combined with the explosions would be why he had the uncontrollable Hulking-out, yet later had a firm leash on the Hulk for the final battle.

"Dr. Banner! Now would be a really good time for you to get angry."
"That's my secret, Captain. I'm ALWAYS angry!"

JMS has stated that if WB wants to talk to him about big cinema treatment for B5 he'd be interested, so a movie reboot isn't out of the question.

However I'd still like to see movies or a series about Babylon 4 and Valen. We know that Valen drives the Shadows away for another 1000 years, but did Valen figure out the same answers that Sheridan did and knew that he couldn't just tell the Vorlons and Shadows to get lost as that might upset history? Per the book of G'Kwan as G'kar read it: "the darkness let loose a terrible scream that destroyed the mindwalkers, and their children and their children's children. But the darkness was driven away by G'kwan and the last surviving mindwalkers." So we can infer that the Shadows were using Narn like they wanted to use Centauri Prime, but there was basically a Shadows vs. Narn Telepath War.

Plus the question of the Vorlons of that era scanning Valen/Sinclair's mind and thus learning of the future and thus deciding to make sure the future happens or else all may be lost. In the comic miniseries "In Valen's Name" we see that Valen very much wanted to leave Delenn a warning message that would have averted the Earth Mimbar war, but a Vorlon appeared to him and they had a telepathic arguement and in the end Valen reluctantly realized that he must fulfill the future but can never change it. Without that war there would be no Babylon project which means no Babylon 4 and thus no Valen.

But what else did the Vorlons do, thanks to the future knowledge that Sinclair/Valen had? Did they study Earth more as a result? Did they take steps to ensure that the Sinclair family line would survive so that Sinclair is born in the future? Did they somehow give Delenn a mental "nudge" to get her to choose Sinclair's fighter to be brought in for examination and interrogation of Sinclair during the Battle of the Line? Was it Sinclair's future knowledge that made them go to Earth and adjust humans to produce telepaths?

Plus how difficult it must have been at first for Valen to be accepted by the Mimbari, much less stopping the internal caste conflicts and forming the Grey Council and creating the Rangers.

Many stories to be told of the Babylon 4 era.

Even the creation of the machine of Epsilon 3 for that matter......

Of the TV movies I enjoyed The Gathering, IN the Beginning, Thirdspace and Call to Arms. River of Souls was nice as it brought back the Soul Hunters and gave us a glimpse into how they think and operate. Legend of the Rangers was mediocre.

Crusade: network vs. JMS killed that series. Too bad to, it had much to offer.

People in the theater were just about rolling in the aisles when Hulk smacked down Loki, and HULK's "Puny God" comment. I then yelled out "Ladies and Gentlemen, Loki has left the building!" as Loki was laying embedded in the ground clearly showing that his lights were on but nobody was home.

Reminded me of when a sledgehammer hit the Coyote in the head and his eyes flashed "tilt".

All Loki needed at that moment was the sounds of birds chirping in his head and stars spinning over his head

Jonah Hex movie has been classified under W.W.N.S.O.T.

WE WILL NOT SPEAK OF THIS

Last I read was that we get Iron Man 3, Cap 2 and THOR 2 and then Avengers 2 with a possible Hulk movie in 2015

The Sentry should be filed under W.W.N.S.O.T. WE WILL NOT SPEAK OF THIS

That character is nothing but a convoluted trainwreck and a cheap rip off of Superman. Good riddance to him

True but still it would depend on what he's drinking. Perhaps we should send him some ole Thunderbird......

Of course it was, then the movie didn't do as well as Marvel had hoped and HULK is shelved until the AVENGERS. Since that time Red Hulk has entered the comics and now has his own series, and is in fact General Ross. So Leader as an enemy works, Red Hulk as an enemy works more since Red Hulk is a bit more prominent at the moment in the comic then the Leader

Strictly speaking they are the good guys, it is just that Fury and SHIELD realize there are subtle shades of grey in reality while Cap has the tendency to think in terms of the good guys always where white hats and the bad guys where black hats. Steve Rogers comes from a time before covert intelligence became so....covert, if you get my meaning. Look at how angry he became when he found that SHIELD had confiscated Hydra uniforms and weapons.

SHIELD pretty much polices the police and I think they answer to the President and the U.N. but it has been awhile since I read up on them.

SHIELD had to have been likely started at the request of the US govt and it just grew and grew.....

Howard Stark helped found SHIELD and get it started, and I suspect Captain America 2 will reveal that Cap's Howling Commandos and Peggy Carter were among the original recruits for SHIELD.