Nalrok_AthZim
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This thread quacks me up.
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I24 VIP Beta.
Custom Power Pool Colorization.
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Quote:If you don't mind, could you please explain this response?Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
And frankly, this is where it should have started. -
Quote:Then you should really distribute the way you handle threads like this equally across the people who've participated in it rather than attacking me directly and trying to pass it off as feedback. Second, you should try to avoid insulting an entire thread when you're called on being too acerbic. Telling everyone who has an opinion on the matter that they're "toddling along" behind someone you clearly have a problem with is not good for your own personal PR.Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Really, it's that simple. And it's not just you.
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Here you go, Bloodspeaker. Just for you. Here's what I posted in the feedback thread with a few extras I'll add in after I post here just so you can see that I'm making suggestions.
First: Don't use the Pocket D hair on the males. Why? It's horrible. If you want the Skulls to look like Criss Angel, you did a bang-up job; if not, change the hair. The gang is not impressive at all with an image like this. It takes away from the "gangland" feel of Kings Row. It's derpy and makes male characters look like absolute dweebs.
Second: Get those jackets back! One of the biggest iconic symbols of the Skulls were their patent leather jackets with the white muscle tee underneath. Now they have really nice cotton vests and bomber jackets (clothing that's WAY too nice for the grit and grunge of Kings Row), and quite frankly it makes them look like spoiled rich kids, not a group of gun-toting death gangers.
Third: Not every Skull has to talk like the Heavy Weapons Guy. Cut that stuff out, it's nothing but kitsch and doesn't add anything to the backstory of the Skulls other than "LOOK WE'RE RUN BY RUSSIAN GUYS, ISN'T THAT COOL?" It's stereotypical at best and clashes with the lore.
Fourth: Clarify who Chernobog is, what his relation to the entire Skulls gang is, and where the Petrovic brothers are, or what happened to them if they're being moved aside in favor of Chernobog. -
Quote:I've already done that in the VIP Beta suggestions thread.Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Then try generating constructive dialog instead of commenting twice on how much you hated something. Try putting forth ideas on how you think it could be improved.
This thread was created to spread the word and hopefully push folks who don't normally check out Beta (and those people do exist) to do so and give their own opinions in the feedback thread.
Are you here to just to argue? It's fine if you are, I just want an honest answer so I know whether or not I should have you on ignore. You've done nothing but insult me and sling useless passive-aggressive comments, so I don't expect a straight answer from you. -
Quote:I distinctly remember a great deal of tooth-gnashing; so much so that the art team stepped it up a notch and added a ton of new designs to the CoT, and people liked the newer proposal much better.Originally Posted by Fista
Some one refresh my memory... Was there this much blood and thunder over the Circle revamp?
You ever see a Life Mage in a skin-tight Joel Schumacher leather bodysuit? Because that's what most of the original new CoT looked like. Twas not pretty. -
Quote:My original post doesn't need editing. I asked a question, I requested people look at new content, and I relayed my opinion.Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Fine. Do the same by editing your original post.
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Quote:Calm down.Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Since I'm not here to impress you, this is no great loss, but if you couldn't glean the intent, I'll make it more obvious. You do not speak for everyone, You never have. You never will. Starting a protest march over something like this is shallow, no matter how many people end up toddling along behind you in it.
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Quote:Swing and a miss with the insult there, champ.Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Saw them. Like the improvement. It's a change. Rigid people hate change. It scares them.
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Quote:So in a game where the developers actively listen to and care about what the players have to say, in a forum where rednames consistently make changes and add content based on customer feedback and requests, you suggest we stop caring?Originally Posted by MajorPrankster
Not really.
You are entitled to the opinion someone has to care, but no, no one really has to care about the story to the degree you choose to about this and other changes.
The writers are doing things you don't like. Oh well, feel free to complain.
Trying to say any of the changes to the story actually matter to the degree you imply is simply not true. It will not hurt the bottom line and that's all that really matters.
Even in this thread, I see the same people complaining just like they complain about every other little change.
No, no one has to care about this crap. You choose to and thus choose to be unhappy about it.
Are you serious? -
I'm going to say that I really enjoy the Death Walker costumes:
Though I feel like the patent leather shoes are a bit much.
Overall the group doesn't fit into Kings Row to me. They're too well groomed for the gritty, downtrodden theme of KR. -
Nature/Archery Defender, Jack Woods. Enjoying the combo so far; it's fun to stand in Lifegiving Spores, lay down Spore Cloud and just plink away. Plan on giving him a costume for each season.
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Quote:Looking at you, George Lucas.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
It's FINALLY starting to dawn on developers that they can't take WoW, toss a different fictional universe over it and call it a new game.
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Quote:I spent about 20 minutes hopping around all of KR and I took forty five screenshots. I just ran through them to be certain I wasn't just overlooking new Skulls with diverse skin tones. Sure enough, every last Skull I screenshotted was white, which is about 100 NPCs give or take.Originally Posted by Triplash
Yep, not the slightest trace of ethnic diversity here. Nosiree.
Out of curiosity, how many spawns did you visit? Cause you might want to re-evaluate your sample size. I spent 20-30 minutes on beta last night running around King's Row, and I couldn't turn two consecutive corners without seeing another spawn containing non-white members. From the screenshots I took I count at least 9 different such models.
Are they predominantly white? Yes, can't argue that. But if you think they're completely white you might need your drivers updated. Or your glasses.
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Quote:Or you could contribute to the conversation. Might be worth looking in to.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
and no comic book universe would EVER do that now, would they.
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Quote:The group is going from a street gang with a very distinct and uniform image made up of all up-and-comers of the streets with two de-facto leaders who forged the group into a cult of death, to a gang made entirely of Russian/Eastern European nightclub bangers in designer clothing while worshipping death in a trendy way with a single leader who looks like Saxton Hale went goth.Originally Posted by Mad Grim
Exactly what is the huge retcon? They go from a death cult that dresses in black and white, to a more interesting death cult that dresses in black and white and has some Slavic leaders.
EDIT: I forgot to add that every member of the new Skulls gang is white. Every last one of them. The old group had noticeable diversity.
It's a very big change.
It would be like changing the Hellions from what they are now into a Norwegian black metal Satan cult led by some dude who looks like someone lit Gary Busey on fire. -
Quote:Which pains me as a veteran player-- I personally loved the Hellions and the Skulls, including the symmetrical duality in their looks and beliefs.Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
Since none of that will apply anymore in I24, the Skulls will essentially become an entirely new group that happens to share the name of and some design similarity to the previous Skulls.
The reasons I dislike this change go far beyond the awful accents, stupid hair and way-too-fancy-for-Kings-Row clothing; it wipes away the old group entirely and, if there WERE a lore-centric cottage rule, this redesign would break it. -
Eh, it's only 20 points and since I only make large purchases, the difference won't affect me in the long run.
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Quote:Hey, some groups make you cut off your ring finger.Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Well, in theory, part of membership for the skulls could include "cutting off your own nose" but I think the Petrovic brothers realized that would be asking a bit much from the membership.
Also made it way too easy to spot them without their masks.
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Quote:Same thing happened to me. Joined a team on my TW/WP Brute. Was grouped with a Stormie. Every group of enemies I ran in to:Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
One big sign of a bad player is inability to follow directions.
What makes for a skilled player? this question should be pondered by those far wiser than myself, but poor players are easy to spot: they often choose some of the most annoying powersets in the game and completely go Section Eight with them, every time they are on a team. For this reason my melee-ers solo 8/10ths of the time. If I am trying to keep squishies alive, Hurricane is the last damn thing I want to see.
I was trying to level one of my Brutes during the recent double-xp weekend and I got so tired of grouping the NPCs around me, going to town and suddenly *BAM* every one of my targets was suddenly hurled twenty feet away, that I left after two missions. I'm not even sure who was using what power that caused the +KB, it was just awful.
Gale. Gale. Gale. Gale. Gale. Gale. Gale. Gale.
Asked the guy politely to stop, and that I was capable of tanking it.
"no gale is a power i took it and im gonna use it."
I quit the team. I have a bad habit of kicking people who do stuff like that, ESPECIALLY when they don't stop after being asked.
It was the worst when I teamed with a Blaster who took Bonfire. I was on my Earth/Earth/Ice Dominator.
Quicksand, Earthquake, Volcanic Gasses, Sleet, Ice Storm, Stalagmites, run in with Mud Pots.
Bonfire. Group flies out of the literal death patch I just burned 4 long-recharge powers on and unloads their alpha strike on me.
When I asked the Blaster to please NEVER EVER DO THAT AGAIN EVER, I was kicked from the team. One-starred the team leader and the blaster.
It's always easy to spot the bad players. The SKILLED player would have used Gale to push enemies into the aggro radius of the team tank, or used Bonfire to fend off an ambush while the team mopped up a spawn they just pulled. -
Holy post padding, Batman.
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Quote:I think I was making a joke playing on that, but whatever, you enjoy being a grumpy gus.Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
I think I read the other posts in the thread and you did not.
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Quote:... I don't think we're playing the same game.Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
How much urine is in my salad.
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Quote:Try four or five. Spend enough time with it and you become a wizard with Shadow Maul.Originally Posted by DMystic
Have you ever seen or been:
A Dark Melee character that consistently hits 2-3 enemies with Shadow Maul?