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This is what I personally think about the pants called jeans clickie!(pnsfw)
Frankly I do not know I would be still with the game if I was not on Triumph. There are too many awesome peeps and mad locos around that keep my interest day in and day out.
From the love of lamps, the hate of pants, to the mass amounts of no u(s) and ITFs it makes it a great asylum to be in and I am glad that I am here for the ride. -
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Quote:In a recent interview they already were talking about lvl 50 content stuff that posi is working on that will be in GR. To clarify.....this is my interpretation on this quote from the article here. I could be wrong on this, but as other people have said in other threads they are putting in a new system that take our 50's and puts them to another level. So to me it is more of a wait and see when some more info comes out and what they say.War Witch was referring to content for the upcoming issues this year, outside of GR where she said content was the main focus for the next several updates. I'm hoping this meant story arcs/TFs/SFs and not just new badges.
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Quote:I do know that, I am going on assumption since no one knows anything about Hamidon in Utopia...we are all just pulling strings and guessing what happens.You have to remember something, though...
Our Hamidon got the way it did by tricking the Woodsman, tearing him apart and using his power to augment itself.
In Praetorian Earth, Shadowhunter wasn't nearly so naive.
Their Hamidon might be an entirely different "animal," and their "Big Raid" threat could be something entirely different from the normal tack. -
Quote:I wonder if any of those "deals" are related to the Hamidon in any way?Quote:AFAIK one person took down Hami in Utopia, which tells me other things happened but the mystery is what we need to unravel.
To Extrapolate:
To me it does seem was to easy for one guy no matter how badass he can be to take down such a massive threat with ease. So if Hami was intelligent he could of sparked a deal that let this section of humans live worry free, while DE roam the rest of the Earth. In that small section Cole has control keeping the humans away from the outside areas. Giving himself dominance with ease by putting fear of a massive threat to the Utopia. -
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Quote:I am so psychic!Mylia was correct. I'm still awaiting scheduling confirmation from a few key people. The thread is started.
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I am not sure why he would hate us...maybe he finally found the weapons of mass destruction in Alaska, and is cleaning house and saving global warming.
Or he passed out from way too much Tila tequila -
Quote:Just trying to make the potential loyalists see that there's room for moral grayness in GR - they're not going to have to grow moustaches to fit in
Quote:Funny, I thought that's what the rest of us have been trying to set up the entire time. It was your point that there is no gray present, Tyrant is clearly evil and the Resistance are heroes. Why? The devs said so. And anything else is being a Tyrant apologist.
Now that a lot of people said well that's it you won cause the devs said so you change your points. -
Quote:Have you been reading all this thread I must ask? I made this in stark contrast to what GG was saying. So she called for detainment of all supers, and spun it like what happened pratoria, since as facts said 90% of sups in Praetoria "dissapeared".Personal power is only relevant to the scale of crime. There is no level of personal power below which criminal activity is impossible, nor one above which it is inevitable. Irrelevant to the actual morality of the situation is the practical impossibility of ever applying this thought. It is not possible to prevent all crime through the detainment of specific subgroups of people and it is not possible to detain everyone.
Quote:Incidentally, using the word 'crime' at all here is a serious error. Crime as you understand it to be is not the same as crime as the citizens of Praetorian Earth understand it to be.
Quote:Genocide, one of the most grave criminal acts under our own legal systems, has at many times throughout history not only not been criminal but at times has been considered a moral imperative.
As I said in this post that is a stark contrast or extension of what GG was saying about rounding people up cause that is what would happen. -
Why not it would be easier to clean the streets without them around on it since there would be no escalation happening to that level. Then once they snap you can take them out accordingly. The people that will be good can be taught and brought back into society as "normal" civilians.
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Quote:To answer 1 is a no. To have absolute peace you need absolute control of everything which does mean strict laws and enforcement.There's a chance that it could happen - but maybe not.
To try and know for sure, there are a lot of things to consider - like would the Resistance be able to organize humanity the way Tyrant has organized it?
Would they be able to find a way to contain the Hamidon without Tyrant to help?
Would they be able to suppress crime at the same time as fighting the Devouring Earth, the way Tyrant's system has managed to do?
Is their gamble of a more dangerous today for a freer tomorrow justified or not?
2. We do not know the strength of Hamidon. Although if we know is close to what Praetoria knows they will be in constant and utter paranoia if Cole was taken out.
3. No, Cole system is calculated and evolved to a point where law enforcement it not a pain staking task to have on a large populace with the fear of annihilation is near.
4. In that world, no. This is a common thing called human behavior. You take them from one extreme (absolute control) to the other (anarchy) which would send the world into a mass area of chaos and destruction. While the resistance would try and do damage control it has already done it's toll on them cause no one will trust them if they trust Cole. Dissension would rule and only time would tell if DE or human kill off the human race.
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All of this is my own opinion since it seems that the moral gray component of the GR seems to be gone. Cole is evil, therefore he should be brought down with extreme prejudice. Which means my main character will be waiting patiently, watching the dead count rise up to make her own city of the dead. -
Quote:No...not at all if they paint it black and while and you as you said "cold logic instead of compassion" then it is still black and white.But there's still huge scope for morally challenging decision making inside the framework of Tyrant = evil, Resistance = good.
If you use cold logic instead of compassion, then a lot of the loyalist mission will become quite justifiable for sure.
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Quote:Sums it up quite nicely if they do go through with this. The truly would of dropped the ball, and would probably have a few people angry; including me.You're right. All of the evidence is pointing to Going Rogue being a complete waste of time. May as well give Recluse the starring role rather than re-image Tyrant. And with the time and resources saved, maybe we could get a conclusion on the Coming Storm story line.
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I never asked about Tyrant being "evil" as you say he is. Also taking female intuition = throwing it out the window. It is not based on any real facts shown yet.
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Quote:yeah everyone has given up it seems trying to have a meaning conversation with GG on this topic. You would have a more meaningful discussion about the moral ambiguity that should be in GR with a wall.This would be the "I give up" point in the conversation...
No one's arguing that he's the ANTAGONIST of the story. We're arguing whether it's clear cut "I'm going to punch babies, lololololololololololololllllll!"
... Which is how it feels like you want it to be sold. -
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Quote:To you Tyrant is the bad guy no two ways about it. In my viewpoint I am not sold on it yet. I am not going to make a judgment on what info we have, cause if I am doing that I am rp'n the ideas of my characters.I really wouldn't get your hopes up about that if I was you - Tyrant = the main bad guy in GR - no two ways about it
This means there are shades of gray everywhere, I never played this game to do this is black and white, just the same as I rp in D&D. I know this is your viewpoint and I am not here to change it, just understand how you can just call off something so quickly. My viewpoint at the end of this is more like RS, cause we do not know everything, and I hope it turns out more like that with a deep roots and layers to unravel.
So I get my hopes up for my own viewpoint on it is where I like to stand my own stand where I rule.