Mercury_Down

Unlike you (and maybe me) alot of our (CIGAL) team has limited resources (as far as play time and cash is concerned.) I was explaining the reason for bringing a taunter lineup not looking for sympathy or making "lame" excuses. Why so aggresive?

Clearly you are frustrated with having to play against a Taunt team, and it's understandable. You want to get as many points as you can, just like us.

If taunters go down to two then we'll adjust.

By limiting taunters you are limiting the resources of teams. At least one of the teams (CIGAL and EP?) sometimes has issues having enough players show up with the right toons. By taking out their extra taunters you are taking away their option to play for a tie, which as much as you (or me) may dislike, it is a competitive decision. Taking away that option would give a clear advantage to the teams who can constantly field players with decent Psi/Ems, Emps and disruption.

Cya Perro!

Perv!

I'm going to neg-rep you if you don't do something about the overgrown flora and fawna outside your window!

I agree about our Jump teams. The problem is getting everyone to show up. We tend to use the weird line ups when we don't have the right toons/people on. When everyone shows up we go for the kill, otherwise we have to adjust accordingly.

No it was intended to force a tie of course. Given the resources we had at the time it was the best decision for us to make. Why would we go in with a line up we knew was going to loose when we could get more points by playing for a tie? I just wanted to point out we did what was best for US not what was worst for YOU.

What Kat's team did had everything to do with giving us the most points we could and nothing to do with limiting how many points you had to "gain." We worked with what we had to get the best possible result for us. You not gaining points was a byproduct of that thought process. The way you worded it makes it sound like we are colluding with other teams to limit your success. Or maybe I'm just paranoid (looks around...)

1. In response to when you said "In that case the killing speed between the three AT's listed is marginal and I would prefer the extra aggro control along with extra survivability as I gather and position them." You left the path of talking only about tanks which is why I responded the way I did about tanks being the slowest/worst of the ATs I listed.

2. Given that I mentioned you can tailor an AT to a regular world map or tailor an AE map to your AT you won't be spending any time on your back because you can create a situation where your AT is unkillable, that means a tank is still the slowest/worst AT for farming out of the ATs I listed. You can make any AT as tough as a tank but you can't make a tank kill as fast as the other ATs.

*note I have not said tanks cannot farm, only that they are the worst when compared to fire/kins, scrappers, and brutes.

3. As a solo farmer you are already at the aggro cap once you engage the bad guys. I'll have as much aggro on a fire/kin or elec/sd scrapper as your tank while solo farming.


I apologize for being slightly insulting. I find farming very boring. As such, I want a toon that will allow me to spend the least amount of time farming as possible and hope to save people time by providing them with good farming advice. When I see bad advice that does the opposite I tend to get a little snarky.

I have farmed with a fire/fire/fire tank, a sd/SS/fire tank, elec/SD scrapper, spines/dark scrapper, elec/sd brute, warshade, and of course fire/kin troller. Out of the bunch I prefer the fire/kin and elec/SD scrapper. I've spent a great deal of time farming over the past three years (+?) ever since starting a second account and those two toons are by far the best I've used to farm with.

Sure, if you can make farming enjoyable go for it.

Since the thread is about farming I was referrring to farming builds for trollers (namely fire/kins.) Clearly an ice/ff isn't going to be killing anyhting as fast as regular farming builds.

As far as what is farmed, as I mentioned earlier, no matter what you are farming there is a map that will be best to any particular AT. No matter what you are farming (tickets, purples, inf, XP,) there is a map out there that best suits a better AT than a Tank for farming purposes, so why use a tank? Tanks are fine for farming but a scrapper, troller, and even brute are better. That's all I am saying.

Very true, his question was answered in the first few replies. Now, lets us get back to our arguments please Rangle. Don't butt in with your reasonable request to redirect the post back to the path where it began

Given that you can tailor an AT to regular-world farm missions or tailor an AE mission to your AT, survivability is not an issue. Killing speed IS an issue. Tanks kill the slowest out of scraps, trollers, brutes and tanks. Why kill slow when you can kill fast and get more rewards faster? This is 1+1 = 2 stuff but you are making 1+1 = 0.

You want aggro control? Are you farming alone or with a group? Why are you farming with a group? You are going to make less $$. If you are farming alone you are the only thing to have aggro. If you are farming minions why do you need "extra" survivability? And by the time you have finished "gathering" them, a fire/kin troller is already on to the next mob.

Your entire argument is not, um, good.

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Sure tankers can farm, but the idea behind farming is to maximize rewards for time spent farming. If you want to do that then pick a scrapper (elec, spines), troller (fire/kin) or brute (elec, SS.) If you honestly think your SD/Axe will beat any of those then you haven't experienced just how good they are.

That was so three weeks ago, learn to keep up.