MarquandDance

maybe i should rephrase that.
People have the point to make themselves heard without being insulted or patronised. Not having your coffee yet doesnt exclude you from that. If it's so impossible to give me a polite reply, please dont bother relying at all, I dont come here to be patronised and insulted, i get enough of that at work thanks.

As for PvP being fun, it can be, i used to MUD a LOT and loved the thrill of chasing and being chased. I also played jedi academy and found that to be a load of fun too, although no where near as intense and cut throat as the mudding world (most MUD times my hands would tremble and my heart would pound on hunting and killing a player >). As Innigo said, is it too much to ask for all AT's to have at least a chance to escape?

ps. why mention solo PVP? I ALWAYS look for a team when i PVP

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No matter what, where you have PVP people will be complaining, 'cause simply, most people don't like loosing & there are a lot of people that play these games that seem to have a god complex.
*shrug*


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They prolly go mad when they loose at monopoly as well.

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I've thought up a nice tactic against stalkers which I'll be using tonight, which doesn't require me to see them at all. Dunno if it'll work as it has some major flaws.


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I'm thinking along the same lines, sort of gave up on seeing them coming now.

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How about complaining that the poor defenders do hardly any damage? I wana splat things too you know!!!!!!

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Give us tac nukes for xmas!

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I think dominators need to have tanks hp, and defences, defiance like a blaster with scrapper crits Then we would be ok in pvp Not too fussed about AS tho.

/chuckle

Its nearly xmas everyone

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Even then you would get beat JK

That reminds me, i have a santa hat someplace

Its not a question of balance or fair, its a question of fun. I couldnt care less if a game is balanced or not, I base my decision on whether to play on how much fun i am having. This goes for PvP and PvE and every game. If the PvE areas had invisible mobs that either kill you in 1-2 seconds, or shed off a whackload of energy, escape, hide, and repeat, i expect a lot more players would be "whineing" and not many people would be accusing them of "sucking money twanger".
Also, something i havent seen mentioned, is that people pay to play this game, if those people arent having fun then they have every right to make there opinion heard.

I'm taking docbot my kin/elec defender on union. Might fly over the battle zone firing heals.
Death...erm, i mean life from above!

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Why are ppl always accusing others of moaning? Hell, say ANYTHING against ANY aspect of PvP and within minutes you be accussed of whining, moaning, complaining etc etc
Exchanging differing viewpoints is generally called a discussion and was what these boads were partly designed for.
Apparently PvP is a special case. There is nothing wrong with PvP at all. The devs got it perfect from the getgo. Anyone who disagrees is a whiny, moany crybaby and is just bitter because they no uber-@-PvP and should stay out of the zone and leave it to the proper PvPers.

Oh please. There's a problem with stalkers. You can pretned there isn't if you want, but they are spoiling a lot of ppls PvP experience. Maybe not yours, maybe not TGs and bully for you both. but that doesn't, as MUCH as you try to make it so, take away from the fact that a lot of people are having problems with stalkers. Accusing them as whining and moaning is coming across as nothing less than an attempt to shame them into silence.


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Good post.

I have ID and ball lightning on my kin/elec defender.
Both are powers worth having, i love showing mobs my balls and watching the shock propigate through his neaby allies

Maybe rethink the PvP zones a bit such that you have say, sirens call 1 & 2. 1 being the newbie zone and 2 the expert, so there are multiple copies of the pvp zones (in the same way there appears to be, IMO, multiple copies of the PvE zones). You can only get into the lower zones if your reputation is fairly low or non existent. Anyone of the correct lvl can get into the higher zones (there is no reputation limit involved), so they can still play with there friends, even if its going to be a bit harder for them. That way, the top PvP'ers are grouped into the hardest version of the zone and the less experienced, or casual PvP'er in the easier zone.

Might work, this would be, but prolly not until the zones become more popular. (so get out and start killing).

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Ppl see the one shot and death and wonder, while they get a good look at the ground, "Why was that fun?"

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And if a game isnt fun people wont play it.

My own stalker seems to have a huge wind down for every move. Anywho, maybe we need something like spidermans spidersense "spidersense tingling!!!".
It could alert you when "something" happens, like when theres a stalker near you or a team mate, or if you become the new bounty target. Maybe I should put this in a seperate thread.

lol. I actaully used the jingle jet in sirens the other day, but only cause fly uses up to much endurance. Anywho, the AT is a storm/dark blast defender i've just started.

Something that puzzles me, some people say hover is great, but its way too slow.

I got done standing right next to one of the drones
Thought it would be a safe place to recover endurance.
I'm pretty sure i saw the guy leaping away to safety while i crumpled face down as well.

Edit: drones increase perception yeah? I guess that wouldnt be increased high enough to be useful then.

I've never seen them work the 2 times i was attacked near them.

What travel powers for PvP?
Movement seems so important i'm thinking of taking them all, or at least 3 of them anyway.
Flight, SS, and TP. With air superiority and TP Foe.

Dont IR goggles only show invisible enemies when they are moving? ie. stand still and ur invis again.
They also cost a small fortune. :S

I agree with the earlier point that was made, the issue isnt so much about stalkers being over powered, more that they arent fun to play against. (Edit: unless you build a specific character to hunt/kill stalkers, an anti stalker i guess, that would be fun. I might try that).

An earleir poster (Doc_?) said stalkers are visible 3 seconds during an AS (presumably before it strikes). Cant say i've noticed this, think i'll check this out today.

ps. those police drones is sirens are about as much use as a chocolate T-pot. (Hmmm T-pot!!)

Might do.
My Docbot char is in SNHS, lvl 22 just now

After the 3rd attempt in sirens i finally found some people to play with. I dont think AS can be used if you have repel on, could interupt it cos i stood around waiting to be attacked and only got critical hits on me. I'm still sitting on the fence and my PC seemed pretty laggy today to make a judgement on how i recieved hits despite being a good few feet away. Oh well, off to lvl my own stalker :P

Thanks for the tips, i'm looing forward to building this guy up

I dont think its so much a question of balance. Much more important than balance is fun.

Thanks wreck, I'll have another look for that accronym list. Going to try a few things today which means standing around like a donkey waiting to be attacked :P
Problem is its easy to forget exactly what happened in the heat of battle. (did I have full HP? what was the wind down for AS? when was the last time i hit that guy? did my attack hit?)

Sorry but i dont know what a DoT is (ahem). Slightly OT but is there an accronym list someplace on the site cos its not the 1st time i've been scratching my head.

I'd like to make a stormy so i'm building a new defender with dark blast as his second set. I'd like to PvE and PvP, does anyone have any advice? I normally build chars then realise later on i made a big mistake near the start :P

It didnt seen to take very long to regenerate then. Certainly not long enough to get sufficient attacks in.

I dont really find AS unfair, more a stalkers ability to go invis so easily. I've had stalkers targetted and followed after they AS someone on my team and watch them go invis even though they arent very far away and i attacked them fairly recently. Even if they make it harder to go invis, i cant see a way around any stalkers who teleport out of trouble.

Havent got high enough to use my stalker in pvp but in pve i find myself running away a lot. My defender got attacked by a few stalkers, they seemed to leave me alone once i turned on repel from kinetics. Dont know if repel stops an assasain strike, but i guess it would make any follow up impossible.