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I'l agree with extremus on one thing, there is a bit of a villain player problem. Rolled up a dark/thermal only for pvp support and sometimes you cant give buffs away. People spread out all over the map then say "can I have shields please?". Two weeks back theres a scrapper mincing around near 2 stalkers I'm teamed with. I swoop in and start laying attacks on the scrapper, hoping the -acc in dark blast does something and expecting my team to assist while the hero is distracted. Nothing! I get wiped. I asked why the stalkers just stood there "I couldnt get off an AS, he would have killed all 3 of us". Maybe he could have killed all 3 of us but so what? At least pull your finger out and do something. BTW. I think the stalkers were spines and EM. On the subject of shields. Similar shields might give villains equal/similar protection but I would like to see control do something, I didnt come into the zone to admire a corruptors buffs.
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Well that was fun :O)
Brought in a few homeless doms to get a team of 8 going at one point. Pretty much done with mercy so it looks like it will be port oakes next week. Finished up about lvl 7/8ish. -
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Quite why the Dev's decided to omit Fear and Confuse Res is beyond me, but I can probably count the amount of times someone has tried to confuse me in team PvP on one hand.
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Obviously people use whatever works for them. I find confuse to be very useful against certain hero AT's in certain situations. I'm surprised you havent come up against it very often. If I though someone was CM'd though I wouldnt bother with it. -
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A defender's CM gives tank level protection, if your holds recharged instantly i dont think you could stack enough..
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Stacking over tanks mez protection wasnt a problem for my dom in sirens call.. surviving long enough to fire even two holds was.. But even so there are still break frees..
edit: just to underline it: I dont think PvP is very fair for dominators atm..
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Sorry, i messed up my post, I meant to say per application, so if someone is walking about with 10CM's on him, its like mezzing a tank 10 times over. -
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AFAIK there is no corruptor (or defender) buff in the game that increases the mag of control powers.
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Yeah... my thoughts too, although you could buff recharge so it'd be easier to stack stuff..
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A defender's CM gives tank level protection, if your holds recharged instantly i dont think you could stack enough to hold a heavily CMd target. -
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In conclusion its working fine, heroes in teams are gonna get the better of you, part of PvP after all
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Except it isnt working fine. CM affects more than just stalkers. -
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Im not so sure on the pvp is balanced issue, i was reading on the usa forums a comparision between like for like corrupters and defenders and it turns out defenders are far more capable of issuing more damage and better buffs/debuffs than any corrupter. They back up their statements with figures, i for one was shocked to see it all writen out and the result but it does match my experiences in the zones too. villians are underpowered and most ppl are aware of it too, like where are all the pvp uber vilian groups i have never seen 1.
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Sounds interesting. I've ran into defenders who's effective damage seemed pretty high, got a linky? -
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connecting ..... # 25
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Has it ran since I8? -
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lonely. i'm myster lonely ... ^^
youhou mates
mercy waits you -_-'
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You came on an hour too early silly :P
I'll be on just now to get someone to invite to "Force of Will". -
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Likewise, if you can't hold the Blaster, have him killed/debuffed and hold the Empath/Sonic. Use things like Sonic Cage, Rad Infection, LR, Benumb etc...
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If the emp/sonic is also buffed?
I think a usefull solution as far as control powers go is to cap mezz protection and/or have a portion of the control power unresistable. It would be nice to have all those shields around, last few times I played my thermal I couldnt give buffs away for love nor money. And on my MM I had a stalker turn down my team invite even though it comes with GI :S -
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Sonic has Clarity, which is the same as Clear Mind. Even gives +Perc. So yes, villains have access to it.
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Are you certain its identical? I was under the impression CM protected against things thaw and clarity didnt. Either way, if someone wants 10x the mezz protection of a tank they should require 10 empaths/sonics, not just 1. Guess they could just cap the protection against control powers at double that of a tank or something. Wont change anything as far as stalkers go but tbh I'm not sure that needs changes anyway. -
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Clear Mind is only unbalancing if the villain doesn't have a team.
Grab a Cold and/or a Thermal Corr and you're good/better equiped.
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AFAIK there is no corruptor (or defender) buff in the game that increases the mag of control powers.
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No, but you get the same kind of immunity that heroes get, and thos reballancing. Stalkers still have an insane amount of burst even without AS, and when they are buffed by therms/sonic shields, they arent squishie.
Villains get so many shields, its not even funny.
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Not quite the same, CM protects against more than thaw (confuse & fear is left out or something), so a controller is still able to use more of there primary depending on the powersets. Besides, I didnt come into the zone to stand there with a load of buffs on me and be impressed at how powerful they might be. -
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Clear Mind is only unbalancing if the villain doesn't have a team.
Grab a Cold and/or a Thermal Corr and you're good/better equiped.
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in all fairness to both sides. i tend to find that villains i have teamed with stack invis so its only fair that the heroes stack cm to counteract this.
Im not biased i play both sides. u stack invis and AS people. obviously they are gonna stack cm
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CM doesnt just affect stalkers. All thats going to happen here is more people will go "man my dom cant do anything, may as well roll a stalker, those look quite good". Then you have even more stalkers than before. If defence shields self stacked it would be changed asap. -
Try playing a dom in a CM'd zone then you will have something to cry about, Pretty much nullifies your entire primary. :O(
I can see see where your coming from though and I agree, I just think doms get hit harder from multi stacked CM than stalkers. Picking up invis or finding a mate to GI you should help a lot, but there isnt any buff to increase the mag of control powers. (unless you count power boost, which still wont make it possible to affect a heavily CM'd player). -
Captain Caber (fire/ice) is parked in mercy for tonight.
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Hi, i would love to get back into the all dom team. im in with my fire/fire dom called Dragons Fire, hes lvl 1
only problem being that im at work till 8 on wednesday so ill be home at about 9ish so ill be a bit late
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Full at the moment but a few people arent able to make the 1st session. Maybe we can run 2 smaller teams. -
Ok, I can see how this might happen now with all the longbows in the zone. I thought you meant he was TP'd right into the base. Arena is best for duels because other people cant possibly barge in. I logged on last night, followed a PB and attacked only to get a load of abuse. Apparently they had already sent out broadcasts about a duel, I couldnt see there broadcasts as I wasnt even in the zone at the time.
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The ORIGINAL () team started off at level one and by the end of the first session was Level 9, Look forward to levelling pretty darn quickly.
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Ah, cheers for that. If the people around lvl 8ish happen to be around anyway, might be an idea to look out for the toons we are playing. I'll post the name of the toon i'l be playing once he's built. -
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anyone can be defeated if they use their strengths correctly.
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I must have left before then. All I remember are a load of stalkers that didnt appear to team at all, so I logged my dom out after a while. No sense setting up kills for unteamed people and dying for it. Even got my thermal corruptor out seeing as everyone always says "team with a corruptor", not a single person coming back for buffs. Was easy on my blaster though.
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The story at the end sounds a bit fishy. His mission would have to be very close to the hero base and he would have to sit outside his mission waiting for the pvp timer to run down. Even then, the drones would zap him before the longbow defences. As for the stalker, dont you think maybe he was just trying to get hide back up to maximise his inherent? Although he did go a bit nooby at the end.
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Why is it, when u arent playing one, they always get you, yet when u are, you either cant get away with hide etc or if you do, you cant hit anything, even 3 slotted (yeah I know I am only 24),lol
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LOL.
I noticed that too. Guess the only answer is we need more practice
Getting someone to GI you regular really helps -
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oh wanted to ask - we all starting from L1?
my dom is en/plant
L4 atm
names Doom Panda
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good question.
mine is level 10 but i don't mind reroll. just tell me so i can reroll and tell you it's name
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Depends whether you want to sit out the 1st session. Not sure how far we can expect to get in the 1st session, i'll check the other dom team thread, its prolly posted there. -
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oh wanted to ask - we all starting from L1?
my dom is en/plant
L4 atm
names Doom Panda
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Some people are joining with lowbies or new toons and theres a few joining later with slightly bigger toons. I'l prolly remake my lvl 8 dom then possibly switch over to my lvl 12 once we get that high.