MarquandDance

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This isn't one of those 'mine is bigger than yours' arguments is it? What you do with it counts too

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I can see his point though. There are some "AT breaking" powers out there that make me think "If only i had another toon that wasnt affected by that. I could switch and play again". I dont think heavies are all that "AT breaking" though, especially since they are available to everyone anyway.

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and heavies prevent me from trying 1v1

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That isnt what the zone is for anyway. If its 1 v 1 you want then arena is a far better place to try.

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I meant to point out that the high rewards in RV exist because the place is supposed to be risky. It sure as hell isnt as it is.

Last post from me for now. Have fun grinding inf there or what the hell you use the zone for anyway.

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I use it for pvp, I dont care about inf.

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and heavies prevent me from trying 1v1

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That isnt what the zone is for anyway. If its 1 v 1 you want then arena is a far better place to try.

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I don't think it's realistically doable to break through PB'ed Cm, however you can break one or two Cm if you're lucky/skilled enough to survive that long.

CM is about 13 mag iirc, and your holds are 8 mag in domination (technically 4 + 4). One of the few good things Doms have going for them is the Domination hold is unresistable (which means the hold length can't be reduced by stuff like AM or Acrobatics) ; so if you have enough support or if you're just plain awesome, you can break through one or two CMs.

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Are you sure lexce?, I thought dom holds were 3, and domination was + 1 = mag 4. Equal 4 holds to break CM, CM is mag 13 iirc.

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I was under the impression it stuck on an extra hold to double the mag. The magnitude of CM is different for defenders and controlers. Scrapper level from a controller, and tank level from a defender.

I done a fair amount of soloing on my mind/psi which is now lvl 50, so I know its possible. Things like carnies will be the most difficult to fight.

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A dom has burnt through stacked cm on me before, dont know about pb+cm though.

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Depends how many are stacked and if the player had mez protection to start with.

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I haven't read the entire thread as it is fairly long now, but it seems to me that most people are missing the point and potential of RV!

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Yeah. Anyone remember how much fun the rv test was? When they had about 3 or 4 instances of the zones and instant level 40's?

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Most of what I 'claim' has been backed up in evidence

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It is?

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All 4 PVP zones are used primarily by farmers atm.

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They are?

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There are other things you can try, I even mentioned one on this thread but so far that suggestion has been ignored.

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If you're talking about movement; Blasts root and suppress.
If you're talking Airsup or Disorient; shields/BF/Acrobatics.
If you're talking melee, you're within GP autokill.
If you're talking flyby; SS/autofollow blocks.
If you're talking Inspirations; a full tray of BF's gets me about 5 minutes to get kills; and turns player aggro on you.
If you're talking having a GP; they just SS away.
If you're talking camping around friendlies; they don't react fast enough unless you're slowed.

That's without taking into account the Turret's/GP's equal range; aggro memory, shoot through and your own End loss.

Strategies are not my weakpoint.

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No. I wasnt talking about any of those.

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I've been fiddling with Domi's for PvP.
Now i'm wondering wether domination hits through a (powerboosted) CM? And stacked CM?

Anyone can tell me about his experiences?

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It would be nice if a % of the hold did go through but sadly it doesnt.

union warburg was very busy last night. FFA isnt my usual idea of fun but it wasnt bad.

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yeah slowly trying to build an ice/traps corruptor myself for pvp and it does seem to have a lot of ZOMG potential, but just dont expect to win a fight where you get "ambushed" as such from fellow pvpers.

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Totally. Like that cat says in red dwarf: "Wait! I know this game. It's called 'Cat and mouse'. And there's only one way to win - don't be the mouse."

Thats why I have teleport for fast getaways :O)

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Outgunned. Taking on a Stalker from Stealth from Long distance.

Not seen me. PB/Aim/BU/Snipe;runs at me and hits me;snipe hits, next 2 shots miss him and then he kills me.
MM. Takes the first hit; Hold;Debuff; Miss Miss Miss Dead.
Brute : Shrugs off the first 4 hits; One Dot/Shot.
Corruptor/Dominator: Takes Alpha down to 1/2: Held; Debuffed; Dead.

Tanking : Smash;Smash;Smash; Full Heal; GP appears; Instadeath.

Once it's every time and you've covered every angle you can think of; time to retire.

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There are other things you can try, I even mentioned one on this thread but so far that suggestion has been ignored.

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Poison trap + web nade can be nasty in zone pvp.

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I took my lvl 15 trapper for a spin in bb. Couldnt kill with just TO's but I can see the potential there already, including a way to become melee proof.

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As for Heavies (calling them GPs is bound to confuse anyone who missed the old thread, by the way)

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Gankpuppies; coz that's what they do/act like.

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I guessed you meant "Giant Pet" or something. Regen scrappers are invicible against a lot of players, but I dont see people call them "invincibles".

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Getting shredded repeatedly in two shots against a character I have stalked and outgunned will make me less likely to come back.

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I feel the same about certain AT's i run into. 2 shots... DEAD! By outgunned do you mean simply a higher damage AT? More people?

Mini blaster with controls a good way to approach this AT if you are new to it.
I wouldnt slot dominate for damage. Instead use some acc, rech, and hold. I'd try to get hasten in a bit quicker, and the hp recovery from drain psyche is very poor I doubt its worth slotting it. It COULD save you though, so maybe try that slotting and see if you like it. Previously I havent liked the water spout, but I judged it too quickly and now I love it :O) A good power to pick up.
It might be worth trying to squeeze a recharge or 2 into psi dart. As an attack its near useless, but the already fast recharge, low timed animation makes it an excellent dom building power. I also find i miss enough times that I like taking 3 accuracy where i can. Oh and TK thrust, I dont really rate it highly, messmerize, tk, and psychic scream are all better powers imo.

I believe you already did fight him, at the 1st lowbie pvp night. He's only level 14 atm but I dont mind a repeat match in the teens.

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That's because there is no problem with Heavies.


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Thats your view, not mine.


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Given that emp/blaster duo's are far more powerful than any player/heavy combo, I dont see how you can say one needs changed but the other is ok. Maybe you can give us a typical scenario of you vs a player & heavy, then people can offer an alternative strategy.

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Stay clear of traps but apart from that you cant really chose a bad secondary.

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Sir my sonic/traps accepts your challenge
I see what you mean though, traps is a lot different from the others.

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/sonic mmm... not bad, not good at all.

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If only they would move clarity up a bit so we can get it earlier

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RV is like three simultaneous games being played in one zone

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That's what makes it such crazy fun

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Like ludo, chess and twister. Other wise known as Luchister.

/cold looks really nice. There was also a sonic/dark around that would use fear to set up an AS for stalkers, then scourge them afterwards.

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Hehe, just remembered the one time when entered the listed event and we ended up in the pve mish of a duoing troller team

And indeed, pvp at lvl 5 was more fun then i expected.

Also i'm really in favour for test server so we can make a few extra builds for fun. Next week pocket D on test?

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Aye that was funny. I was so annoyed i picked a hero though instead of a stalker. Would have been funny for the hero to go into there mission and have a big red "assasin strike" pop up over them. eh.. prolly woulda been a bad idea anyway

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CM had one hole though, was either confuse or fear

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You sure that isnt thaw your thinking of? I know thaw has one or two holes so some controls still work. I was under the impression CM protected against all control effects except KB.

So this means that slotting damage only helps you OUTSIDE of domination? Sounds like a really screwed up way to do things. Is this common for damage buffs, like if i have a thermal buffing does it work the same way? In that case I would seriously consider slotting something else like recharge over damage in situations where domination is often on the go (big teams & pvp).

EDIT: nm, max to the rescue