Magellen

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  1. Random thought here while at work

    Say if there is a 6 slotted set of ANY certain type of IO set.....
    if 3 of those enhancements were placed in one power....
    and 3 in another power...... you wouldn't get the bonus for the WHOLE set or no?
    Or would ya get the particular bonus for just slotting 3? LOL

    Call it a newb question...... but I never gave that sorta thinking all that much time in the past.
    It just hit me and I thought asking on this thread might be the best
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Partsman View Post
    It is hard to see from his picture but I believe the OP has already hit the ED-capped roof on damage, so he will not see any improvement in his damage. He will have higher accuracy, but that won't really matter at what difficulty he has tested either (+1/x8).

    I think you should up your difficulty to the point where you are barely and consistently winning your fights; fights so close that you are left panting with exertion, where 1 more mob would have turned victory into defeat. Then evaluate it. Is it worth your time/effort/money to pursue a better IO'd build, or am I happy with my current limits? If you want more, ask yourself how can I survive if I up it another notch? Am I going to be defeated because I ran out of endurance and my toggles dropped? Or is there just going to be too much damage coming in to survive? Or will I survive, but not be able to pump out enough damage? Or am I whiffing too much now? Or if that one power had recharged faster, could I survive longer?

    Once you figure that out, load up Mids and look for those sets that will shore up your particular weaknesses. And I agree with the other posters, use your second build for this.

    Above all, have fun!
    That's pretty much the plan at the moment when it comes to upping it slowly each mish and against different villian groups.
    I am gonna try some Rikti stuff tonight after work, the CoH, more Malta, some Carnie action and whatever else tickles my interest at that moment in time.

    I notice some of the weaknesses that tank has (especially vs the 52s and 53s) is accuracy believe it or not.
    Endurance is not even an issue for the most part either.
    But I DID notice that the green bar would go down a little too fast for my tastes LOL

    So yeah.... I am gonna hit a trainer at some near point in time and start a 2nd build with "sets" starting the slots out.... then fill each empty slot with a frankenslot so to speak of a combined enhancer.

    Thanks to everyone's awesome observations I feel more at ease about tinkering with my fav old tank than I did a couple days ago.

    I have a 50 Fire/Fire/Pyre Tank and a 50 SS/WP/Energy Mastery Tank also.
    I love them both but my old "standby" has been my Thor tanker
  3. Everyone has some VERY valid points on the issue of Frankenslotting and using sets to their full advantage.....
    I am just inexperienced with both aspects
    For the most part I have been 95% happy with how my tank does it's job for a long while now.
    I am learning a lot this way

    Took it out for another spin this morning on a tip mission (+1 x8 with bosses) vs HUGE mobs of Freakshow and it went well.
    I just loOOoooOooove gettin hip-deep in their blood LOL

    I have to admit..... I thought about that neat idea of making a 2nd build for it just with as many sets as I could afford and try a comparison so to speak.

    Taking the "Pepsi Challenge" so to speak to see if I like my original build of just IOs vs my 2nd one with the sets and such
  4. Oh.....
    since I have rarely ever used any of the planners of build guides and such,
    I figured this would be easier to understand the slotting I have used for the tank for about a year or so now;

    http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...len/hammer.jpg
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack View Post
    Nemesis is a bit of a one-trick pony. Vengeance makes them hard on purely Defense-based tanks, like Shield or Ice. On anyone else, especially something with Willpower's layered mitigation, try not to kill the lieutenants early and they're a total pushover. Not always fast, but an annoyance at worst. You might want to run it against one or two other groups. I find the Rikti give a good spread of different threat types, but that's just me.
    Yeah I am gonna try the Rikti next.
    In the past that tank would always eat them for breakfast rather easily.
    Heck..... a couple years ago I used to farm lev 52 Malta in PI (with bosses staged for a group of 8) SOLO and had a blast with it
    I am curious to see how the Malta would do against it now......
    the CoT were never a threat much at all...... so it's hard to say
  6. After I came home tonight I went looking around WW and browsing the sets and such.
    It occured to me that I haven't done a solo mish with that tank in a while....
    so I went ahead and got the Dark Watcher's mish in the RWZ (at +2 x4) to refresh my recollection on what made this tank tick in the first place

    In the mish vs. all those Nemesis Colonels (with Warhulk bosses and stuff too) it was a friggin breeze.
    My green and blue bars barely moved the whole time.
    Next mish in the arc I upped the diff to (+3 x5) and it went well.
    Would have been even better if I weren't so dang tired.

    Gonna sleep on it and see how my mind untangles this mystery before me in the regards of slotting, sets and what not.

    Mucho confused right now.... but in a good way
  7. For the most part I think 400 will do the trick somehow, someway for me quite nicely.
    I am just interested in seeing if the Frankenslotting the mixed bag of damage/accuracy or defense/endurance, etc, etc IO enhancers
    will be a measurable difference for me.

    Like I said before I have always been quite pleased with that tank of 3+ years of mine.
    It almost always takes a damn mountain to fall on him to stun him in some way and he is pretty nifty at dishing out damage with accuracy (while doing well endurance & stamina)

    I originally modeled the toon after Thor and want to do something special with it in the months leading up to the movie

    For your viewing pleasure: http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=thor
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
    In general Frankenslotting is more effective than full sets at enhancing a single power since you can pick and choose the aspects you most want to enhance. The downside is that this way you don't get the set bonuses which can potentially increase the effectiveness of all your powers. To use a simple example on my AR/Dev Blaster I have 5 pieces of Positron's Blast slotted in four different powers. This gives me set bonuses totaling 10% recovery, 36% accuracy and 25% recharge which is roughly equivalent to slotting an accuracy SO and two-thirds of a recharge SO in every single power.

    Now the actual enhancement the powers themselves get is (after ED) 47.7% Accuracy, 95.1% Damage, 47.7% Endurance Reduction and 26.5% Recharge (plus a damage proc of varying usefulness). Alternatively with Frankenslotting I could, for example use the same five slots to give it 54.5%/96.12%/63.6%/53% (stats in the same order) giving a large increase in recharge and small increases in the others (although I do lose the proc). This isn't a brilliant example since the Targeted AoE Damage sets have a limited selection of enhancement varieties (the only IO without a damage component is a rather expensive PvP IO which limits my options) with other powers. The downside is I'm losing the set bonuses I listed above.

    The big advantage of Frankenslotting is that it allows you to fit about 1.6 SOs of enhancement in each slot.

    Regarding Hamidon Origin enhancements (which Dark Gob mentioned) they are also useful as part of a Frankenslotting build. They are equivalent in power to 2 SOs which can add more power than Frankenslotted Set IOs. The price is very variable but some useful ones are reasonably cheap. In particular Nucleolus Exposure can normally be had for about 30million and boost damage and accuracy which is always handy.
    I have to admit I am going to look into further detail about the Hamidon Origin enhancers once I get home later.
    I will do the math with the available influence and see if it is "worth my while".
    Frankenslotting seems like a lot of possibilities.
    Especially since it seems as though I can add certain anhancers that I want and save some space so to speak with slots.
    Makes me think if it will be more challenging once inherent stamina hits the newstands next issue too LOL
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    I almost wonder if you're talking about Hamidon Origin Enhancements here. (I'd expect a 4-year vet to know about them but it's also not inconceivable to me that you wouldn't have encountered them before.) Did they have names like "Centriole Exposure"? As far as I can recall, these, Hydra Origin and Titan Origin Enhancements are the only non-set IO multi-aspect enhancements.
    Yup those were the ones LOL
    Heck.......I have never even been on a Hamdion Raid before
    (this is with 12 non-pl'd or AE'd) 50s also I might add
    Closest I have come is the Hami encounter at the end of the LGTF LOL

    But naaaah......
    in the past once I hit 47 with my toons I just buy lev 50 IOs for them and slot them accordingly (usually pretty well for balance of what I want to accomplish)

    I just thought recently about trying some "sets" or even the "Frankenslotting" that has been mentioned earlier with my favorite & toughest old tanker of mine

    In recent months I have been pre-occupied with side-switching, spacing toons out from Infinity and the Freedom servers and a LOT of soloing since I work about 60 hours a week all the time with my job.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SerialBeggar View Post
    "Frankenslotting" is the forum's slang for mix and matching individual Set IO pieces, focusing on maximizing attribute enhancement (preferably achieved with less slot allocations) rather than trying to assemble the Set for set bonuses.

    So the Frankenslotting can be as effective (if not more) than getting the whole set of something then?
    I have bought a few sets in the past for other toons (KB resistance, etc)
    but it never occured to me to nab an IO enhancer from one set, another from another, etc, etc
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
    Done correctly IO Sets will increase the capabilities of a character. Most IO builds aim at increasing the recharge and/or defense of a character (although a few have other goals such as health/regen). This can be particularly useful for a Willpower tank since Willpower comes with a moderate amount of defense already and adding additional defense (generally Smashing and Lethal defense) can have a large increase in survivability.

    The downside is that this can get very pricey, very quickly. The most popular set for boosting S/L Defense is Kinetic Combat which due to the nature of the drop system is rather pricey (the Dam/End/Rech goes for about 100million and even if you skip the others are still a tad pricey). You can look for cheaper sets instead (Smashing Haymaker, for example) but these will generally have less useful bonuses. Realistically if you want to do this right you should plan the build out in mids and will probably need a respec to, at the very least, shift a few slots around. Also you might find you need to wait to earn the cash to complete the build.

    An intermediate option you might want to look at is Frankenslotting. IOs that boost two or three aspects of a power provide more total enhancment than regular IOs. For example slotting two level 50 Damage/Accuracy IOs (form different sets, obviously) will boost both Damage and Accuracy by 53% as opposed to the 42.4% you'd get from slotting one Damage IO and one Accuracy IO. In this manner you can get more enhancement from each slot increasing the potency of the powers or allowing you to shift slots to other powers. Since you don't care about set bonuses you can focus on cheaper IOs (most uncommon IOs sell very cheaply) all that matters is how many aspects the IO covers (the more aspects the IO enhances the higher the total bonus, triples and quads are obviously the best but they tend to be rarer and more expensive).
    When you mention the "frankenslotting" I did notice the certain IOs at WW last night while on the game (I am at work right now and don't remember the names of the IOs)
    that there were certain IOs that had like the damage/accuracy aspects.

    They had odd names and were not part of "common" IOs but they didn't seem like they were part of any "set" either.
    So they ARE particularly useful then?

    I must admit after 4 years on the game I have never tried any of them but they DID seem rather interesting.
  12. I have a question concerning my lev 50 Willpower/War Mace/Energy Mastery Tanker.
    I have been proud of the damage it can take, and the damage it puts out.....
    it is generally real good with stamina/endurance issues also.

    Long story short I have around 400 mil in influence to tinker with for it and I was wondering if certain IO "sets" would improve it much or no?

    I have always used regular lev 50 IOs and stack them well I believe to match the needed damage/endurance/accuracy needed.....
    to make the tank very much a force to be reckoned with vs pretty much any type of foe.

    Any ideas?
    I am always wanting to improve it, and I don't need a respec for any power changes..... just thinking that the possibility of re-slotting with sets MIGHT improve it any or not

    Danke
  13. Magellen

    Befuddled.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
    Are you sure you chose her? Does she show up on your contact list now? Do you already have 7 mission slots filled up?

    The last option would be to check how many "Major Story" Arcs you have open. If you have too many, you will be unable to start a new one. Unfortunately, since you said you just now became a Villain, this means you'll probably have to switch all the way back to Heroside to complete one or two of them and then switch back to Villain again so you can start her arc.

    Yup yup.
    She was chosen and is in my contacts now.
    Odd thing is..... I have no mission slots used at the moment.
    It COULD be that I have more than that amount of the Major Story Arcs "open"...... I will double check real quick.
    She tells me to come back with my "undivided attention".
    Perhaps I do have more than seven unfinished.... guh LOL

    The toon is 4 years old and has not been my "primary" for a while.
    It just holds a place in my heart because it was my first 50
  14. Magellen

    Befuddled.....

    I went ahead and met with Rein and chose her.
    Funny thing is..... GW still doesn't want to "talk" with my charachter
    LOLOL
    Guh
  15. Magellen

    Befuddled.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
    You have to talk to Arbiter Rein in front of the Grandville tower. He's the one that will introduce you to the Patrons and allow you to make your choice. Only then will you be able to run one of the arcs and unlock your Patron powers. (You no longer have to do GW's arc just because you want her powers. Any of the 4 will unlock all 4.) You even get another respec for completing the arc as well.
    Ahhhhhhh doh on my part.
    I have a 50 MM from a few years ago and I damn near forgot that.
    I rarely play redside.
    Recently I have liked it more....
    but I have always been a "blue kind of guy"
    Danke
  16. Magellen

    Befuddled.....

    Long story short my first lev 50 a few years back was an Nrg/Nrg Blaster that I have always seemed to tinker with in one form or another.
    It seems I was never super-thrilled with much of any of the Epic Pool choices to go along with it and then when the recent issue with the allignment switching came along I thought about going redside so I can somehow get the Soul Mastery from Ghost Widow.

    Now..... after a couple of weeks of that toon officially being a Villian I recently tried a respec and the option didn't come up for Patrons.
    So.... I figured I had to go to Ghost Widow and attempt her arc to get it.
    But..... she doesn't want to even talk to my charachter.
    Is this normal?
    I even tried doing several newspaper missions in the time allowed that I have (I work 60+ hours a week sadly) LOL
    Any ideas on HOW I can go about this?
    Danke in advance
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Catastrophe View Post
    If you find yourself not wanting to use multiple slots on the KB protection, you could go a different route with i19's inherent Fitness, freeing up some power choices so you can snag Leaping pool powers and Acrobatics for its Mag-9 protection. (Can add some Defense IO's to Combat Jumping too...). Just a thought.
    I might try that after i19 hits.
    All depends on what the "feel" to the toon is to me.
    Right now it is a Dark/Dark Brute roaming around the Rogue Isles and I just hit 22 with it.
    I already bought the Steadfast Protection IOs I need for it.
    I used the Acrobatics for a lev 50 Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker a while back and it did a fine job.
    But yeah....
    once i19 hits I may do that also
  18. Danke mucho everyone
    I have used one or two of them in the past but for the life of me I just couldn't remember the names.
    In the past I would just browse the crafted IOs at WW and select the info tab by right clicking on it for the knowledge of each IO and for some reason recently searching thru IOs like that doesn't work anymore.
    Oh well.
    Grassy-*** once again
  19. This is a totally newb question.....
    but I have been playing the game nearly 4 years now and I have TOTALLY forgotten which set of IOs offer that KB resistance that helps out the Dark Armor powers
    If memory serves the IO goes to lev 30....
    but I cannot remember the name of it
    Seems like there were two different sets of IOs but I could be wrong
    Forgive my Uber-Brain-Farting power that I have (it's fully slotted by the way)
  20. Magellen

    Ranged Brutes

    For me personally I LOVE my Elec/Elec/Mu Mastery Brute.
    I feel like with the Fury (nerfed or not) I can do things fast (because of the elevated accuracy & damage) plus the Lightening Rod is a game-changer for me when properly slotted.
    Also the Chain Induction works nicely at getting some foes that out of immediate reach too.
    Lightening Field works well for me when foes are not in my face and Power Sink helps nab some of the others for me too
    Mu Mastery is where farther range comes into play for me that I love too.
    Summoning a Mu Striker is awesome for that.
    Mu Lightening, Electric Fence, Ball Lightening, and Static Discharge are ALL nice ranged attacks.
    With this Brute I feel as though I have a bit of everything at my disposal.
    I can keep mobs at bay, disoriented, suck their endurance and damage the snot out of them too.
    Plus the Mu Mastery keeps my Brute in the "Electric" them that I always wanted
  21. I have to admit one of the MAJOR things I love about this game is the history/lore of the charachters, settings, backgrounds and such

    The only thing I always thought that was a little odd/funny was the "feel" of Paragon City (in RHODE ISLAND of all places) feels bigger than NYC, LA and Chicago combined to a degree LOL
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SenseiBlur View Post
    The only thing I want to know about I19 is... when is it coming out... and who can I sleep with to make that sooner.
    Forgive my ignorance here.
    If you are a female? A statement like that would get i19 published TODAY
    If you are a male? Bring the bacon..... and pray! LOLOL
    Either way..... damn funny statement
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Exodus_V View Post
    Ouch <grabs popcorn and waits on fanboi's to show>
    I literally LAUGHED OUT LOUD
    I can hear it now from someone's basement; "Mom!!! Someone is poo-pooing on my Super Booster!!"
    Then mom says; "Junior.... get off that pc, put some clothes on, get out of that basement and come here and scrub my wrinkle-flaps on my belly!!!!"
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano View Post
    I'm honestly not sure whether that is a typo or not...either way I chuckled.
    Tenebrous Tentacles or Tenacious Testacles?
    Either way I win! LOL
  25. I have to admit I was wondering if the Presence Pool would help in some sort of way and it made me think after reading the great ideas above.
    I have a lev 50 Scrapper (Katana/Dark Armor) and it makes me wonder if I could incorporate the Presence Pool somehow.
    Plus I have a lev 50 Defender (Empathy/Dark Blasts) and it makes me wonder about it too.
    Anyone think it COULD be uselful for those types of ATs???