Madame Pistacio

Your questions are VERY hard to follow because you go back in and answer half of them. Can you make a bulleted list of questions so it is easy to see and read? I will be happy to help once I can understand what you are asking.

To answer- there are two kinda of glowies that look the same (lichen/mushroom looking) the first kind you click(for the 1st incarnation of the AV), the second kind you have have to punch in the face to kill so that he can be killed, these spawn throughout the room, but only the ones close to him effect him.

The issue is that when the first dies, the stalker would be visible and thus set off the second and third ones.

You have to kill them all. The actual badge text even says so. Stalkers can kill the first large bunch of them since they are spaced far apart. The ones at the end of the bomb section though are too close to for stalkers to do... unless you had 8 who all could get there at once somehow.

Strategy:

1. Kill a lot of stuff, keep Desi in the back as much as possible with someone with heals by her.

2. Kill a lot more stuff.

3. Fight an AV, if you get targeted, move the hell away from everyone else.

4. Kill more stuff. OMG it's a trap---- In the crystal room kill DE, then crystals, split into 4 groups (1 in each corner).

5. Get some glowies.

6. Use glowies (only 1 at a time, they do not stack) on next AV, punch him till he dies.

7. When he rezzes, everyone run to the corner and pull him, this reduces the number of lichens that can aid him. Keep the mushrooms killed. Kill AV. Do this all in 8 minutes and get a badge (if you complete the trial)

8. Bomb Phase- if going for badge you have to kill each and every single one. I suggest doing it from range, but if not, rush the heck out of them! Once someone is "in range" the bomb will explode in 10 seconds- it WILL kill you if you are near it and you do not kill it first.

9. Kill more stuff and bombs.

10. AV room- gather for clarion OR spread tactics or CM the hell out of people. Fight AV and stay behind him as much as possible. Try to keep Desi over 50% health for another badge. Pew Pew him till he dies. Kill him while a seedling is detonating for the final badge.

How is that? Need more strategy guidelines?

BAF is just ridiculously easy. Yes there are teams that occasionally fail, yes we all failed a few times in the beginning. But with well off incarnated characters... I feel really confident that Ice Knight, Masque, Medieval Power, and I could each triple box and still beat the trial. That's because 1. it's not that hard 2. we are all good and 3. there is no trick to BAF, it's straight forward. I think it is a big mistake to think that just because something requires strategy or a "godly" tank dies sometimes that it is "cheating" or too hard. IOs have made the game so easy and I like that fact that just soft capping a character is not enough to be UBER in Incarnate Trials.

Keyes, you do not have to have rebirth, it just makes things easier, you could just carry greens. Same with UGT, you don't need clarion, it just makes it easier. Incarnate powers were destined with the idea in mind that people would all choose different things. If 1 out of 4 people choose Clarion, that is MORE than enough to get through the trial.

As for the bomb phase, you could very easily melee rush them. However, on badge runs I was on, Chan/I simply chose to be extra careful and use range.

Overall: Cheer up Buttercup. It's not so bad. This is new, let's keep running it and rock it out.

Thank you very much for the compliment However, it's really more due to my friends who are all exceptional players AND good listeners. Chan, Lassie, Hippy, Medieval Power, and others definitely helped a ton with the first run, even with my "no spoiler" rule.

If you can, craft a Clarion tier 3 or 4 (both can be perma, just look for the 120 second one). Basically Clarion= win.

I have to say I agree with you there. I understand why in BAF people do not always go for Keep them Sep on Victory, but I am constantly amazed that people do not try for Strong and Pretty every single time. I mean how hard is it to send 3-6 people to the spawn point. At least try for it!!! *shrug*

PS- there is a patch, go DL it

Thank you. Thanks to Chan, Missie, and Hippy who helped teach

I however would rank the trials differently...

1. Keyes
2. BAF
3. Lam and UGT tied

I like the UGT but it is just SO long and it feels kind of like it is long for the sake of being long. There is no real way to skip much unless people really pay attention. Keyes, I understand why you do not like it... NO offense, but you don't really have any characters that are well suited or very useful for it, so I could see how that would be frustrating. However, I have played and seen people play characters with no self heal and do fine, so I think it's just a different play style. BAF I like cause it is fast and easy to get the badges. Lambda... I think I will eventually like again but the Masters badges (as they are laid out) are frustrating to me, plus I get annoyed that people complain when I want to speed run it lol.

I have 3/4. But since the badges are easy to get, I see no reason not to try for (most of) them every time.

Incredibly successful. We finished the last fight in like 2 minutes. Clarion REALLY made a difference.

Unless they changed it yes. But I think it is 1600 points per tray of 10... so it is quite spendy. But I mean.. it is a huge quality of life difference, so I think it's worth it, especially since we get the points free anyway.

I will wager that r0x will have them all within 2 days