MBarUK

Victory is ours! At last! Mua ha ha ha!

Many thanks to the team of evil villainous villains that came along. Statesjerk and his Freedom Phalluses were beaten in about 3.5 hours. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

For those interested, in the last mission, we pulled Numina and Synapse seperately at the start. Then when the 3rd pull messed up, we decided to charge them with Shivan support. Sister Psyche fell, then Manticore. At this point, our buffs were out and we ran to regroup. Another charge led to the end of Back Alley Brawler and Citadel, then another regroup. For the final charge on Positron and then Statesman, all guns were fired, i.e. some Nukes were unloaded. Positron dropped like a fly when debuffed, and States didn't put up much more of a fight. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Group Photos

Strike Force Venom stands victorious in the new dawn
(Left to Right)
Quarks : Energy/Energy Brute
Frosthound : Ice/Cold Corruptor
Spider Smasher : Energy/Energy Brute
Seethe : Fire/Dark Brute
Ms Liberty : MA/Invuln Losertron (deceased >
Max Khaos : Ice?/Thermal Corruptor
Gorun Nova : Energy/Kinetics Corruptor
Aphotica : Ice/Dark Corruptor
Black Jon Bludd : Ninja/Pirate Stalker

Recluse hands out the Synthetic Hamidon-origin Enhancements as Statesman's defeat becomes known

Next time, I want Dominators along. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Listed in terms of sign-up order:

1. Seethe : Fire/Dark Brute
2. Black Jon Bludd : Ninja/Pirate Stalker (filling the role of AV pulling expert)
3. Max Khaos : Ice?/Thermal Corruptor
4. Gorun Nova : Energy/Kinetics Corruptor (filling the role of */Kinetics Corruptor)
5. Frosthound : Ice/Cold Corruptor
6. Quarks : Energy/Energy Brute
7. Aphotica : Ice/Dark Corruptor (filling the role of */Radiation Corruptor ... shush)
8. Spider Smasher : Energy/Energy Brute

So, we've got a */Dark filling in for a */Rad and a couple of */Energy Brutes instead of a /*Stone.

Which is prefectly fine I think. With Thermal and Cold Corruptors on the team, we shouldn't be lacking in defenses as such.


That's the team as it stand for now then. Any more sign-ups will go onto the first-string reserve list should people drop out / not show up.

Not that they will, because remember, victory is guaranteed. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


... unless the Devs find out I've been mouthing off and decide to once again teach us a lesson ... :P

On Sunday, Statesman shall be defeated.

How, you ask? Or maybe, why?

Because on Sunday, at about 2pm (UK time / BST), a team lead by Seethe (lvl 50 Fire/DA Brute) shall once again undertake the Lord Recluse Strike Force.

And this one will be victorious.

If you're interested, please sign-up below or contact me in game @MBar before then. I'd like an idea of the team before we get going.

Unfortunately, I am going to throw some Requirements in here:

Level 50 villains will be preferred to those who aren't 50. Sorry, but this SF isn't an XP grind, debt is altogether too common for that kind of thing as anyone who has done it before will know.

Some Archetypes and Powersets are preferred to others. One each of the following will most likely automatically get a place in the team:
- */Radiation Corruptor
- */Kinetics Corruptor
- */Stone Brute
- AV pulling expert
Other than those, I'm feeling flexible.

Nukes and Shivans and such are treated as a bonus. You are not required to go get them beforehand, but if you did, it would be very helpful. I certainly will be attending with a full compliment.

That's the lot. Sign-up now. Seethe demands it of you, minions!

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my new shiny dam/acc ;p

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You! Flashing your trophies in my face like you own the place! I'll SMASH you! I will!

... Should I be worried that I seem to take too easily to villainy?

I'll get a seperate thread up for Sunday's affair some time today. Sign-ups etc. welcomed there.

Even from high-falutin' Stalker punks.

Signing-up for Sister XPsyche :

Starfell : lvl 22 Human-form Peacebringer

Afraid I'll be busy smiting Statesman and his Freedom Phalanx on Sunday.

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and we were sodding awesome =)

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/em cries

This SF is obviously PURE EVIL!!! It refuses all my advances!

Right! Sunday! Oh yes, Sunday! Sunday you shall be destroyed, foul evil Strike Force!

Mua ha.

Mua ha ha.

Mua ha ha ha!

/em may have gone slightly insane ...

Really sorry to have to do this to you guys on such short notice, but there's the distinct possibility I'll not make it tonight ... I'll let you know in-game by 6.30 if I'm coming or not.

I now face a 3 hour round trip at this time of night to go to my second job to fix what my boss broke and then most likely kill him. Dead.

/em is barely containing his rage

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Plant/Psi - The regin. Flooring the recharge and regenerating with both Spirit Tree's and Drain Psyche's help, this set is becoming to be the new FoTM which can take on any melee character. "Fight like a man!"

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This is Statesman's Dominator build, out of interest.

Therefore, it is either:
a) Obviously going to be uber, because States wouldn't nerf himself
b) You want to avoid that combination now like an old, diseased and dieing osterich, because its .... Statesman's build .... ewww ...

It's the End-giving Accolade powers which are the worst, as you've said. Born in Battle may never be achievable by some without hideous amounts of Damage-farming, while Marshall can't be got before 45, because it requires a badge only obtainable on the Recluse SF.

The Devs are being excessively tight regarding End Recovery powers on Villains in general. No Patron +End power from Brutes? Bah.

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Well, the time and day works so well for me that I feel like I have to sign up.

Aphotica, Ice/Dark Corruptor

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/em crosses fingers, hoping that you have Darkest Night, unlike the last */Dark Cupptor we did Recluse with

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but i'm having a sg run as well thursday and will want to do one at the weekend as well so will organise that closer to the date =)

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Yeah, I might run one on Sunday afternoon meself regardless of what happens on Tues.

Assuming we win on Tuesday (which we will, goddamnit), my Sunday run might be a much less professional affair. I want at least 4 Dominators on the team.

Edit: But don't sign up for my run here, this is Jon's thread and Jon's times.

Oh, me again please if you have room after the alloted requirements, as Seethe (lvl 50 Fire/DA Brute). My Dark-Armour-ness may lack panic button uber-ness but I've got Psi and Fear Resistance and whatnot.

And of course, you'll not find many other people so motivated to pound Statesman and his cohorts into a fine paste which can then be implemented within a tasty Hero-based sandwich and consumed for sustinence. Must ... SMASH ... Statesjerk ...

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I think I'm becoming obsessed with this SF somewhat ...

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Hmmm... I could swear he was an EB, he went down so fast...

EDIT: Bah, NoFuture lists him as an AV....Well, if he is one, he sure is the squishiest AV ever.

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Well, you can't expect much at level 15.

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So, depending on when you want to start TF'ing, you'll get AV's from level 10 onwards (Cavern of Transcedence, Synapse (but not Positron) etc.).

Just get Taunt. Only then will I stop bugging you.

[/ QUOTE ]CoTT has EB, not AV, so earliest would be L16.

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Eh? He is? Since when?

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Do any tenker players out there slot taunt enhancements in your attacks or do you rely on gauntlet, and the main taunt powere itself?

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Never felt the need to slot Taunts in any attack, the base Punchvoke, plus Taunt plus Taunt Aura, is usually plenty.

As an Invuln, I've only got Taunt Enhancements in Taunt itself and Invincibility.

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how you have aid other to help heal them is pointless if you can't pull those odd few mobs off the blaster who's nowhere the bulk of the enemy

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Ooooooooooooohhhhh, this is soooooo QFE.

*Tanker heals you for 187.5 points*
Me (as Rad Defender): "Eh? Why are you healing me?"
Tanker: "Because that guy is attacking you."
Me: "OK, but I'm a Rad Defender, I can heal my self. What I can't do is take several hundred bullets to the gut. Guess what? That's your job! So, here's a new plan: DO YOUR OWN [censored] JOB AND GET HIM OFF ME!!! "

/em bursts blood vessel, and rightly so

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Taunting AoE's like chilling embrace and blazing aura along with the punchvoke/gauntlet will enable you to hold aggro most of the time but when you have scattering mobs making a beeline for the ranged squishies you are left with three choices

- Hope the squishy can take the aggro
- Chase the aggro down, risking your current aggro scattering if you move out of range as the mobs are attacked
- Taunt the mob to bring him to you while standing safely in the middle of your already gathered aggro.


[/ QUOTE ]Or use ranged temporary/APP power

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Temporary powers are temporary, Epic powers are level 41+. And both aren't as good at aggro as Taunt.

We've had this discussion earlier in this thread.

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to pose a similar, but slightly different question to the original...

i'm planning to be rolling an ice/ice tank to duo with an ice/ice blaster in the near future. obviously i plan on grabbing chilling embrace, but do people think that taunt would be particularly valuable in such a team? throwing it into the mix at the earliest oppourtunity has me expecting to get my second damage dealing power by level 18. i know that i'm not there to throw the hurt around, but that seems like i won't be carrying my weight much.

obviously a spread-out team tackling a few spawns simultaneously after everything goes to hell needs a tank who can taunt to try and pull everything into order, but if we're likely standing shoulder to shoulder as he blapps and i tank can i be confident that punchvoke and CE will see us through and keep the aggro on me?

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So, depending on when you want to start TF'ing, you'll get AV's from level 10 onwards (Cavern of Transcedence, Synapse (but not Positron) etc.).

Just get Taunt. Only then will I stop bugging you.

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Nowt wrong with punchvoke indeed. But I can happily swallow 100% aggro with Chilling Embrace and taunt and never need punchvoke.


[/ QUOTE ]Or you can get away with chilling embrace and punchvoke and never be able to grab aggro at range or kite AV's.

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[/ QUOTE ]Even if I will take taunt, you will NOT see me kiting AV's, it's just silly. Also, fire epic quite easily allows taking aggro at range.

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... from lvl 41 on. And the Fire Epic won't be as effective or cost as little End as Taunt.

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Liquefy is lovely you have to have it!!

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You're one of the first people I've seen to say that, Shannon.

My Ice/Sonic Controller is probably picking it up at 38 anyway, but why do you like it? What does it actually do? And how do you slot it?

So many questions ...

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Nowt wrong with punchvoke indeed. But I can happily swallow 100% aggro with Chilling Embrace and taunt and never need punchvoke.


[/ QUOTE ]Or you can get away with chilling embrace and punchvoke and never be able to grab aggro at range or kite AV's.

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Edited for Accuracy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Must ... SMASH ... Statesjerk ...

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Tried pulling alone after everyone else left yesterday, almost always got single ones, could get basically every hero alone (apart from sister psyche and bastion who i didn't try) so guess we were just a bit too unconcentrated to do it properly. Should be easy today.

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Woo. How did you do it exaclty, out of interest?

Wednesday night run picking up Thursday at 7.00pm for another run at Statesjerk and his Freedom Phalusses.

In the mean time, things to try, <<Designated Sniper>> :

> Alternate snipe slotting:
- No Accuracy: If you don't hit, you might pull less aggro.
- No Damage: Less damage might mean less aggro.
- Slot it up the [censored] with Range: for obvious reasons
I'll hand you the experimenting cash if needed.

> Try different targets: You know those sneaky Devs, if Numina has been the subject of abuse, she may be programmed for aggro. Some of the other Phalanx may be easier pulled. Doesn't matter who we get be themselves, as long as we get someone.

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I'll grab the nukes and Shivans on Kin tonight

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If anyone's interested in a bit of Brute-related misconduct, I'll probably be in Siren's and Warburg tonight as well, from about 9.00pm onwards, collecting Shivans and Nukes.