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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
    So unless they want this everytime someone doesnt like a paid set, they need to make a refund system.
    I've said it once in another thread.
    Other people have said it in this thread.
    But I'll say it one more time now: Caveat Emptor.

    This game does NOT need to bend over backwards to make it trivial to get refunds.
    The people who play this game need to take mature responsibility for their purchases.

    No one FORCED you to buy this thing instantaneously. If you were really this worried about getting your money's worth out of your several dollars you would have taken some time to "read the reviews" and reactions of other people before you jumped in and thought it'd be cool to instantly whine about it the mircosecond it didn't live up to your expectations.

    Please do yourself a favor and slow down, take a breath, and learn from this flailing rant how to better react to things like this in the future.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
    That's how I figure it, as well, only for me it goes in the other direction. In seven years, the number of times I've been able to fill all five costume slots AND have ideas for more has been... Um, zero, actually. I don't ever remember having a new idea for a costume and not having the costume to do it with. So $10 for an extra costume slot is $10 wasted on nothing at all.

    Well, for me, anyway.
    So for you it sounds like the costume slots would be "a waste of money" even if they sold them for one cent each. To each their own.

    One could only assume that if there was some wonderful feature out there that you "really, really wanted" and had been waiting for over 7 years to get that you could see yourself spending $8-10 for it. It just so happens that for some people that feature was the extra costume slots.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
    Yeah its not terrible, its a middle of the road, bleh set.

    Not worth 10 for it on its own, save the bleh sets for free or expansions or packs.

    Selling it on its own for 10 it needs to be good, not best but good.

    its not.
    I would simply offer that your definition of "good enough" in this case may differ from someone else's. *shrugs*
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
    Surely its a "middle of the road" set then? Do people expect each set to be vastly superior to every other set when they come out?
    Apparently at least some of them do...
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CactusBrawler View Post
    You probably have grounds to ask for a refund then, especially if the set you beta tested was not the set you bought.

    Paragon Really do need to allow people to try before they buy when it comes to powersets.
    Allowing people to try RELEASED versions of things before you buy them is one idea I'm not particularly opposed to.

    But having the expectation that anything under beta test will exist in the live environment in EXACTLY the same shape or form as it did during beta is borderline naive and foolish. If anyone attempts to ask for a refund for something because "it doesn't work in live the same way it did in beta" then I can only hope, for their sake, that the customer service people don't laugh -too- hard at them for trying.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
    About the refund, Im going to start a post on this on the general forums, it wont work, but Im sure they dont want to be embarrased by having refund posts popping up all over, so they might either refund or buff the set, its better than having new players, customers scared off.
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    Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
    Not one thats paid for.
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    Originally Posted by Shubbie View Post
    And its not worth the money.
    If I had to guess there will be someone trying to "embarrass" them with threats of refund posts in relation to just about everything they ever sell in Paragon Market from now on. Just don't get your hopes up too much over this. Caveat Emptor after all.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MentalMaden View Post
    A whole lotta meh.

    The wife not knowing how she was selected and who was responsible, when the process seemed absolutely transparent (via Taylor), struck me as sloppy. She really didn't know who the head of the Science Team was, when they were the person that made the recommendation and is ultimately (or it seems) their boss? It was already stated that it wasn't the lottery but her being a doctor that got them in. I know it's not that huge of a point, but it was one of those that just stuck in my craw.
    Yes your points about not knowing who her boss was makes the situation bad enough.

    The part about it I thought was dumb was that if the science guy pulled some strings to get her recommended for Terra Nova surely her records would have said she was married already. If he was somehow inexplicably ignorant of the marriage then he was naively stupid in his attempts to get back with her. But if he -did- in fact know she was married but thought the husband was "safely" locked away in prison then that would make him a fairly naughty/bad man.

    So we're left with the science guy being either fairly stupid or cut-throat in his desire to have her back. Either quality seems to point towards his days as a "main" character as numbered.
  8. Long ago I decided to not "fight the system" and made my ESC key be my "universal reset" key. For me it not only unqueues any power or emote but it also recenters my point of view and camera distance whenever I've shifted my camera to another off-center position.

    If you really want your ESC key to do something radically different you may be out of luck.
  9. This is good news. I didn't outright hate the way Dual Blades worked, but it was admittedly a little annoying sometimes. The idea that you can throw attack chains in any order for Street Justice sounds easier and in fact makes sense for a powerset that's supposed to be chaotic and undisciplined in the first place.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TonyV View Post
    The thing that catches me, though, isn't the dollar amount, it's the fact that a lot of this stuff (including costume slots) is account-wide and forever. I know that if I spend that $10 today, I will have that costume slot available on every character, past and future, from now on, even if I stop playing as a VIP. That tends to inflate the value of what I'm buying versus the money I'm spending in my head, and I'm more likely to be like, "Well, in that case, I'll go ahead and get it."
    I factor in the cost of something like this to the relative long term use I expect to get out of it. Sure $10 (or even $8) for one costume slot for one character can be considered to be way too expensive for most people. But if what you're buying is an extra slot for DOZENS of characters that will be available anytime you want it for potentially YEARS into the future then all of a sudden that $10 doesn't seem too far fetched. At least that's how I see it. *shrugs*
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spiked_Menace View Post
    Indeed. This is the reason why I will never buy Paragon Points or any other type of 'pretend money' like this.
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    Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
    I think the dollar/point thing backfires on me. I have no problem adding 25% to the points and making my buying decisions based on that number of cents. And I continue to do that even though I got a bulk discount on buying lots of points. The end result is that when making a decision on buying, I assume everything is going to cost me more than it actually does.
    If you understand the "shell game" being played with these point systems and understand the "real" value of the things being sold then there's really no point in fearing or avoiding these things. Sure it's Monopoly money designed to trick us, but that doesn't make it intrinsically evil.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by NinjaPirate View Post
    It is pretty amazing how well Nimoy, an old man, can pull off acting like an old man.
    It's like he was born for the role.
  13. Overall it was a workable episode but it did seem a bit too much like a "filler" episode which was weird for the second show of the entire series. This is the type of B-plot show I'd expect shoved like 2/3 of the way into the second or third season when nothing much else is going on. Oh well.

    It's funny but I predicted last week they'd bring the son's 2149 girlfriend back into the show within 4 or 5 episodes but according to the preview for next week's episode they mentioned her involvement for next week so it only took 2 episodes. Looks like we're going to have two different love triangles (father's and son's) going by episode #3. Le sigh...

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    Originally Posted by Gaming_Glen View Post
    Also, had a thought that the new science guy would be the inside Sixer but that would be too obvious and too early in the series if they want to keep that mystery going.
    It's always possible the new science guy is a Sixer spy, but they established that he goes off for days at a time on research trips. It'd be hard for him to be spying on Taylor if he was gone from Terra Nova that often. Of course he could be spending his time away from Terra Nova -with- the Sixers, but I guess that remains to be seen. At this point I'd suspect Washington as the spy more than anyone else. As a top lieutenant of Taylor's she'd know everything he was doing and be the perfect "insider" for the Sixers.

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    Originally Posted by Jasmine Strega View Post
    I'm not one to insist on action scenes and special effects...but it felt odd to me that the two key plot points with the critters happened off screen. We didn't see our lead heroes capturing or leading off the animals. Very odd for a show that seems to promote action as part of it's draw.
    I figured there was enough "action" in this episode for it all to make sense. I didn't really need to see them driving through the juggle or tossing the barrel of pheromones wherever they tossed it. It was handled well enough with that bit of exposition at the end. Besides they have to save as much of the budget for the show as they can when they can.
  14. I figure he's simply at a point where he'll do what he wants when he wants to. He's just making it clear that he doesn't feel -obligated- to do any more. The man might die tomorrow or live another 20 years. If it's the latter then I suspect he might randomly do a few more conventions or acting gigs if he's so inclined.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by bromley View Post
    Yeah, if I'm "supposed" to be able to get the minimum of costumes and powersets with my VIP stipend, then I'll be waiting to see if this drops in price ever. I've only purchased a Beam Rifle and a handful of the barbarian/circle of thorns pieces (no sets) and I sure don't have 800 points lying around.

    Every time the Store puts up something I would like that is WAY overpriced for someone already paying for the game, it makes me regret my 6 month sub.
    Frankly I'd rather have this game be offering too much to buy for the 400 monthly points than not enough.
    It's a much better "problem" for this game to have in the long run.
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
    Saw a bit of that already on people who'd purchased Costume Slots prior to the sale that began last week. A sale is a sale; I see no problem with it as long as they don't permanently lower the price a short time after launch.
    I was one of the people who bought 5 costume slots the first day CoH:Freedom went live. It was far from an "impulse" buy for me because I've basically wanted them for over 7 years now and was prepared to buy them at any price. I always accepted that they would likely go on sale at some point. I'll admit I was a bit surprised to see them go on sale as -quickly- as they did, but I have not and will not ever openly "complain" about it. If other people are now getting them cheaper than I did then more power to them.

    Since I bought those extra costume slots I've loaded in dozens of new costumes and gotten many hours of enjoyment out of that. They've been well worth the price I paid and I expect I'll get plenty more enjoyment from them for the remainder of the lifespan of this game.

    So sure sales happen and some people are always going to get caught buying something the day before the price drops. No point in whining about it either way. *shrugs*
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zamuel View Post
    Despite some people's explanations, I still don't get the level fanaticism over the set.
    For me it comes down to this: Up until now I've never be much for purely melee oriented characters in this game but I'm actually looking forward to giving Street Justice a try. If this powerset can get a non-meleer to try it then there must be something good there.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Liquid View Post
    That show was awesome.



    I agree that it's a strange thing to name it after, but why does Big O make you blush?
    Maybe because deep down we've always known mathematicians were perverted.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZephyrWind View Post
    So it is...for some reason, that made me think of something else entirely, which then made me discount it as the possibility of the name of the show.

    /e blush
    I'm quite sure that's exactly what they were going for when they chose that name.
    The Japanese are fairly funny when it comes to using English in novel ways.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZephyrWind View Post
    Oh...but what was the show?

    (the one ripping off the "batman with a gun-toting butler and female sidekick"?)
    The title is right there in the pic.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZephyrWind View Post
    I don't get it; I'm not much of an anime watcher...
    The show Beastyle was referencing was almost a "Batman with a gun-toting butler and a female sidekick" rip-off to begin with.
    Apparently this new Batman show would be ripping off the rip off.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beastyle View Post
    Oh, I loved this show.

    lol bingo.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frostbiter View Post
    From the article "in the works along with a Wonder Girl/Batgirl/Supergirl team-up titled Super Best Friends Forever."

    Thing is these three together won't be able to fight any crime because they'll be too busy texting each other and shopping at the mall.

    This whole "article" sounds like a joke to me...
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lazarillo View Post
    I'll be buying Street Justice anyway, because I have the points set aside for it, but people might not complain as much if things were more reasonably priced.
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    Originally Posted by SolarSentai View Post
    Right, I'm not arguing that we've paid for powersets before. We have.

    My gripe is the cost at which they are charging for them currently.

    As compared to previously set prices, things in the store are stupidly expensive.
    Ah, but then again "reasonability" when it comes to pricing is always going to be in the eye of the beholder. Ironically there would be people complaining about it even if the Devs only charged 10 Paragon Points for this.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolarSentai View Post
    We've gotten new powersets as part of paid expansions, which is a bit different.

    When you factor in what was given with CoV and Going Rogue, there was quite a bit more bang for your buck.

    I remember when Dual Blades was considered a huge coding achievement with being able to hold 2 weapons and that was included with our subscription.

    I have no problem with charging for consumables and "fluff" but charging for powersets in this way and at this price point is something I don't agree with.
    I would simply argue that part of what you were paying for when you bought those expansions were new powersets. Of course we can quibble about what fraction of that expansion cost was specifically for the powersets in question, but that doesn't change the fact that at least part of your money went towards paying for powersets.

    Having to pay for individual powersets in the Paragon Market is just a different formulation of the same scheme we've already had in this game. Paying for powersets is not a "new" thing - it existed long before the Market came around.