Londoner

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Hammerfall already corrected me on that, someone defined it as an exploit and I followed. PvP itself is not annoying, what is annoying is someone to pick on you because you made him/her faceplant on first encounter and he/she won't stop until he faceplanted you several times usually with additional help. Anyway, it is of course a risk of getting into a PvP area. In my opinion (and it is only my opinion) it is just a matter of a few ppl not knowing when enough is enough, I find it tricky when, well, you're entitled to PvP in a PvP area, but there's a thin line between healthy PvPing and chase someone just for the pleasure of driving him/her out of the area. Anyway, sometimes you're lucky and don't find certain people and sometimes you aren't and find them, with the rule book in the hand, you are warned when entering a PvP area and there's not much to do when you are chased besides leaving the area.


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Ummmmm....... right, cheers for that.

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Now go roll a brute and really enjoy yourself

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Good advice that

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Thats good to know, and i apologised to Londoner. Were on a better understanding of what happend now. And its all neutral ground and forgot about. (I hope)

Thanks Bridger, lesson learned if i was in the wrong.

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Yep yep all done and dusted with now

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in fact it somehow justifies some people's attittude no matter how annoying I find it sometimes, I honestly prefer to think that they are after a toon trying to get a good recipe than just for plain annoyance,

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They dont really need any justification do they, they are PvP'ing in a PvP zone.

If that annoys you, might be best to not go to the pvp zone to farm, but either way its not an exploit its you going to a PvP for 1 reason and doing your thing and them going to a PvP zone for their reason, and doing their thing.

Thats just my opinion of course, and im not saying either of you are in the wrong, just disagreeing on what an exploit actually is

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I totally agree on the point of view that farming is an exploit to the game.

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In what way is it an exploit?

You just said your self you get ambushed when doing it, so thats the risk / reward element safely in place.

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pics please


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We sort of out grew the standard base plot a bit we are on a 16x16 secure plot now, theres some pictures of our base here

Murders Unlimited Base

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The smallest plot size now has NO rent to pay.

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And you can still get good fully functional base on that size plot

Hiya and welcome to the dark side of Defiant

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took a fair while of shuffling things round and trying new shapes to get things to fit - i used the 'upgrade plot' window quite a lot just to move the plot around rather than resize

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Thats a very good tip especially if you are trying to re position the hidden entrance room on your plot.

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I suggest trying it on the test server first. I think they still give new SGs there a huge prestige boost


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I dont think they do anymore.

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Room dividers would be rather nice to have

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For a reasonably good make do room devider you could try "Lateral Files" under the "Other Furniture" tab.

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On a side note - I can FLY!! Much slower than my co-leaders' Super Jump but at least it will get faster with the levels.

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Ah yes , he might be faster but you can snigger when he has a concentration lapse and Super Jumps into a big mob of baddies by accident

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But really, isnt the point of the badge that you have done your bit in pvp?

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I suppose Slitty has got a point there, have you tried asking the bounty tying lurker to pop out and get killed, thusly letting the bounty move on

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Just to check. Its ok to idle in SC tying up the bounty isnt it?

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I think so yea.

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Would i have to first rearrange the rooms so that they fit in the smallest sized grid or will i get the opportunity to move the rooms around to shoehorn them in afterwards?

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If you want to down size the plot you will have to arrange them to fit on the smaller plot before it will actually let you make the change.

Theres no opertunity to do anything on the plot upgrade screen other than a plot up or down grade....oddly enough

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Is it possible to add a 2x2 room, move the teleporters to it, then delete old rooms? as this would save me having to remake them!

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Yes thats the best way to do it

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There are several reasons for this, but the main ones are privacy related (we don't discuss the details of your account with anyone other than you - and that includes disciplinary actions) and that, in our experience of other games, disclosing these details to the player making the complaint has an unfortunate tendency to lead to further unpleasant behaviour ("Hahahah! I got you suspended, noob!", etc).

I believe that most other MMOs have similar policies, no doubt for similar reasons.

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Yep ok , thats a good reason.

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I also think I disagree with how quiet you keep what is done about it.

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Yes i must admit iv never quite understood that bit either.

Im not suggesting having them announced in a pop up screen as everyone logs on, however i think being told that the person you felt the need to complain about has been dealt with in X or Y fashion, at least lets you know something has at least been done.

Just my opinion that lot of course.

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Even with the bugs I can live with it Spent a few hours in the editor until some of my SG friends said "Stop and kill stuff NOW"

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You have to learn to ignore them when you are in the "editing chamber"

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Just one last question, how do you link more than one beacon to a teleporter?


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Ok if you are using the smallest teleporter room, the 1x2 squares room sadly you can only have 1 beacon attatched if i remember right, what you need is the next size up teleporter room, then you just add the 2nd beacon to the teleporter by placing it near it like you did with the 1st 1.

And yes take some screenis so we can see how you going.

Its very rewarding building bases watching them grow, i think they were a fab addition to the game even if they are still a bit buggy

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Not to mention that sometimes it takes 20 minutes of fiddling to even start getting results you like enough to want to safe.
Especially when it's with decorations.

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Yes i know that feeling too and is 1 of the reasons we went minimalistic decor wise, i can imagine anyone trying to create an intricate arcane base counting slowly to 10 regularly

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I'm on Union, does that make a difference?

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No not at all , only had you been on defiant and villains id have given you some salvage to get you going

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Ok so now how do you refine salvage into tech power?

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You need to get the 1st (cheapest) workbench then place it in a worshop room, then click it and click the tech power tab and you will then see a list of base salvage recipe's that will form into refined tech power components.

Are you based on defiant or union / hero's or villains?

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Yeah, I heard he was a Doctor or something.


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He is 16 years old so i doubt it.

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When you ask the person in question on broadcast what happened to his old account he goes very quiet and leaves, one would presume hes trying to avoid a "paper trail" linking current behavior to the past.

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Is he that bright?

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Also, another pointer. What the hell happened to Relcuse's Victory night!? Or was that farming night, not PvP night?

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Not sure if that was a farming or pvp plan to be honest, or if its bitten the dust lol