Lady_Sadako

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1. Yes, it's definitely a world without you.

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Actually, much though I love that interpretation, I have to contest it. It's a world specifically without Doctor Miller.

'Coyote has said in the past that he regrets bringing new heroes into a plague-zone, and wishes he could recover all of those who have been lost.'

So, new heroes HAVE been sent into the Outbreak area. They've just all died. Presumably, in this alternate world, 'you' were one of the heroes who tried and failed to combat the virus. Similarly, because the villain contacts died of the plague, 'you' the villain are still locked up in the Zig.

I really think this is all about changing the whole course of history by changing one thing.

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Actually, he tells you, in true James Bond villain fashion, that he's going to upload his mind into the Rikti mental network. You then proceed to pound on him until his rivets burst, and he never even makes it to the portal.

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gah, spoilers much? :/

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The most likely suspect is indeed Nemesis, which is boring and trite at this point.

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Suspect for what? You don't actually believe the changes described in the PT are going to happen, do you?

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Not quite. The 5th are Nazis, hence they go back to mid 1940's. Nemesis made his first big American* push in the 1920's.

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I mean the Fifth have been trying to alter history for longer than anyone else. Does Nemesis try to change the past?

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Nemesis would do it.

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Yeah, but consider the other evidence.

1. The Fifth Column have the longest history of any group in the game of messing around with changing time. Case in point, Ubelmann the Unknown.

2. Reichsmann is from an alternate world where history took a different path.

3. That Ouroboros symbol looks very Nordic.

My guess is that they're bringing back the 'Ubelmann Portal' (which was originally going to be the gate by which you entered Recluse's Victory) both as part of the unfolding storyline and as a means for level 50s to revisit their own personal past, and replay old mission content. Like Flashback, but literal time travel, so you can go back and save that hostage who died under your protection. That sort of thing.

Oh, this is clever. This is so so clever.

That reference to the 'widow of Doctor Greg Miller'? Well, Dr. Miller is the second person you talk to in the Outbreak mission. He's the one who sends you off on the rest of the missions.

This whole paper story is about how different history would be if one single detail was changed. Remove Greg Miller, and the Outbreak Plague is still raging after four years, because WE haven't been containing it. In this alternate history, the heroes haven't been able to do the Outbreak mission, so the plague has been rampant.

The whole flow of history works out differently because of that ONE detail - whether Greg Miller lives or dies.

It's all very Ubelmann.

It's an alternate history. It's got to be.

Nobody's ever escaped from the Zig? LOADS of people have - there wouldn't be a CoV otherwise!

No, someone's been messing with the past. That'll be the theme of Issue 11.

And by the way, that's a very rivety iron ouroboros there. It reminds me of a certain villain group.

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Ok, but I can't talk about Issue 11 or beyond... but that's pretty much what you guys WANT me to talk about so we are at an impass.

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You don't have to talk. You could express yourself through the medium of interpretative dance.

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TIN FOIL HAT POWERS ACTIVATE! : Form of...The 5th Column?

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Lighthouse just HAD to use the phrase 'tinfoil hat', didn't he...

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Ahem. Ms. Sadako? R U H34l0r?

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Hm? Yeah, sure.

I daren't hope!

Back before I9, my biggest worry about the Empowerment Stations was that people would use up all the hard-to-get Base Salvage in making the better buffs.

But the ability to convert Invention Salvage into Base Salvage has changed all that. (I'm quite surprised more people haven't written about this.) I can now convert six pieces of crappy unwanted Tech Salvage into a Tech Software, or an Experimental Tech, instead of deleting them. If I ever run short of the bulkier stuff, like Material or Power, it can be picked up for pennies at Wentworth's.

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Remember...

Lighthouse is watching you!

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Oh and he is showing his Terminator Eye!

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Is it me, or does he look burned?

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heh too bad he doesnt work here anymore

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Those words come from the NEW Lord Recluse, Serdar Copur, not the old Lord Recluse, Zeb Cook.

Here's the interview they came from.

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I think, Sadako, our opinions of what this is about is totally at different ends of the spectrum. You see this as spamming/strong arm tactics versus my view of "writing your congressman"/asking for change.

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May I respectfully direct your attention to the words 'force him to sit up and take notice' in the OP?

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ok sadako..just read that but how is evilgecko's list exlibris's list?

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Ex compiled it, EvilGeko just restated it.

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and ive gotta say while Lighthouse did respond..and i will admit the Dev team is working on some things that people really desire, He still refused to comment on anything in specific...and what we desire is specificity.

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I know. My point is that Ex has already said she'll bring the list to the Devs' attention and try to get us some feedback on it, so it makes sense to keep up the support for that project rather than going off on tangents, especially since bases and the CoP were mentioned in the list.

Ex is away at GenCon this weekend, but when she gets back, I hope she'll give us some of her time over this...

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the "base love" seems to be where they really need to hit , this alone would speak volumes to the community of base builders not to mention it afffects everyone

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' In fact, I will go so far as to say that both Supergroups and Bases will be getting some much needed love over the next few updates.' - Lord Recluse

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also sadako isnt sniping..thats just the way she is

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Ha!

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and sadako wheres the link to Ex Libris's huge issues thread?

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Here.

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please stop sniping...everyone not just sadako..

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I'm not sniping at all. I'm just strongly advising you not to do this, because for one thing it won't get you anywhere, and for another, it could get you in trouble with the mods.

You've already gone against what's considered acceptable on the forums by cross posting. Encouraging people to spam a Dev could easily get you banned. I'm not saying that to be a goody two shoes, I'm saying that because I'm just as frustrated as you are, and you're in danger of shooting yourself in the foot.

This kind of call to arms never works. I know it's frustrating, but that doesn't mean this is a good idea.

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Thank you but I would like to make use of the First Amendment. Sure Positron can just do a mass delete of his inbox, but playing the waiting game hasn't gotten the base community anywhere either, now has it?

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I've been given more information by Devs first-hand than anyone else I know, and all I've ever done is be polite and patient.

You can quote the First Amendment all you like, but spamming is spamming, and those strongarm tactics won't get you a result. Like I said, if they respond to that, they'll set a precedent.

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if alot of people at once pm him, we'll get answers,

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No you won't, and you're kidding yourself if you think you will.

Devs don't respond to those tactics.

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heck Sadoko, havent you even noticed that not a single dev has ever posted here once except for Light_Houses generic response.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm white-hot furious about this. But spamming a Dev isn't going to get anyone any answers.

Seriously bad idea.

Do you honestly think the Devs are going to respond to a mass PM spam?

By doing this you make it LESS likely, not more, that Positron will address this issue. Why? Because if Devs are seen to respond to what's basically spamming, then any time anyone feels entitled to a bit of Dev attention in future, they'll look back on this as a precedent and try to flood some other Dev's inbox.

There is ALREADY a big list of player concerns, including the Base Raids and CoP, which we have been assured WILL get Dev attention. It's Ex Libris's 'big list'. If you want to do something constructive, then get behind that instead of trying to mailbomb Devs.

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How does it work then? Please enlighten us?

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I can tell you that mass PMs are an absolute waste of time. Attempting to force Devs into noticing you is absolutely the wrong idea, especially when what is proposed is essentially spamming.

There isn't anything that you can do to make a Dev address an issue, because you aren't entitled to Dev attention. They don't have to talk about what you want them to talk about.

What I've done several times in the past, successfully, is to respond to Dev public posts with a polite request for information. You can also try the approach of the 'request for clarification' on an issue - start a thread which, while not calling anyone out, asks what the state of play is on a given issue.

But in this instance, there is already something to get behind. Ex Libris made her big list of issues that players would like Dev feedback on, which EvilGeko has lately been trying to get some attention given to. (I believe the state of base raids and the CoP are on that list.) Since ExLibris is currently at GenCon, we aren't likely to see anything on that score for a few days at least.

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it seems that mass PMs will be the only thing in this universe that will cause him to sit up and take notice and maybe respond.

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Wrong. It doesn't work like that.

_Castle_:

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I truly enjoy Base Raiding. I would love for us to schedule in the time to get that all working again.

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You mean to say that this HASN'T been scheduled in ALREADY?