LadyJudgement

I miss you too Larissa!

Edit to answer OP:

My first and original LJ is on Virtue, SG-less, although a second incarnation of her was once a member of the Sisters of the Paragonian Knights... she has since moved to Liberty, where my current version of my namesake lies.

All my mains there are either in the Envisionaries or their off shoots. Though for fan art client's sake I have a low level LJ on every server in order to meet and take screens of players.

Justice has been my home of late, but I always go back to Virtue to attend the parties. Otherwise I talk to the remnants of the Envisionaries on Liberty, although we tend to do a lot of COV side, since he who shall not be named has disappeared *cough cough rhymes with filo cough cough*...

Isn't that 5th one Tom Cruise in Valkyrie?

Ironik: apologies if it seems you believe I am using the "he's an artist with no motivation" defense. I am not. I am merely pointing out that in his case, lack of motivation may be a factor... not that it is a valid factor, but perhaps it exists and does hinder him, and is one of many reasons he is behind astronomically to the point of litigation! You are correct on all counts, and wow he must be some floor guy...

Sorry to un-impress you, but I believe I am entitled to an opinion as are you, even if we disagree.

Sassy ftw.

Wassy for - the I agree, an artist in my opinion should be even more responsible because there work is their legacy. Surgical motivation? What would that even be... lolol

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A tradesman is a professional with a high degree of practical and theoretical knowledge in his/her specialty. An artist is a tradesman, regardless of the quality of his/her work. Overwhelmed, undermotivated and in a bind...every professional is going to have to deal with challenges regardless of the industry they're in. No offense, but your argument makes it sound like jomaro should get a free pass because his job title is artist. With all due respect to you and other artists, I don't believe that should be the case. But clearly something isn't going right and those issues should be addressed in a fair manner, especially if the clients involved also consider him a friend.

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Respectfully I disagree, I don't consider art to be a trade, or that is to say quality art to be a trade. I consider it to be a specialty. Skill is one thing, competence another, and even with both in 1 artist, there is a difference to me, from a tradesman's approach, which I consider to be devoid of innovation. A tradesman may be inspired to do his job well, professionally because he is paid, but this does not make him an artist.

An artist invents, something from nothing, he may have tools for this, but those tools are indifferent in the hands and mind of a true artist. He creates because it is his passion, and he cannot express himself better in any other format... Put those tools in the hands of a tradesman, and you will get something nice for sure, something beautiful perhaps, but will it be wonderous? Will it be unique? Will it showcase the artist over the medium.

Anyway, I could prattle on all day, but this is a separate discussion to the matter at hand.

As to what you perceive I have said, I do not believe any hired artist here should be given a pass. If the artist has given their word, I believe they should honor it. On the grounds of respect and decency, as well as pride and reputation. I just don't see a solution to Jomaro's problem.

Let's say he contacts each and everyone with a chain letter:

"My apologies, I've made a grave mistake, my work load is too much, I will refund whoever wishes to be refunded, and work as capably as I can on the rest."

He STILL has to do the work, and unless he changes his practice of taking on too much, he will have the problem all over again in 6 months time from clearing what little he can or possibly can.

The damage has been done, and the pace is not helping the situation, unless of course you are next on the queue. Good luck to everyone.

Well I'm not offended, since it doesn't personally concern me. And YES a 3 year wait is ridiculous and absurd. I don't agree with your artist tradesman analogy, there's a difference between a finished piece and conveyor belt crap... look at hotel art for an example.

True it is responsible to realize your flaws, tell clients the truth, and stop taking commissions. Clearly that wasn't done here if 3 years has gone by... (yikes) as for being disrespectful, I can't speculate on that.

I DO think Motivation is a factor, even after making the small dents he has made, he still has to tackle the rest of it. I went to his site last night on a whim, and he posted on the 5th. To me it sounds like the clients want full disclosure on not only his methods but his personal life, is he doing something else instead of working? Does he even have records of what he owes? Where did your money go?

Sure communication would solve all of this... as would iron clad contracts, and I am not trying to defend his actions, or lack of action, only to add to this discussion that I see him being overwhelmed, under motivated (perhaps) and STILL in the same bind he was even after posting these past few months.

I'm gonna bow out now, apologies to anyone I may have offended.

TA: far as I know it's not written in stone anywhere that every good artist is an equally good businessman... Jomaro more than likely has 10 times the frustrations I have, since he has 10 times the clients. I cannot defend his actions other than to say buyer beware, artist beware... and pray that both parties come out winning in the end.

I doubt he'd ever want to admit defeat? How much courage did it take to say I'm rebooting and face that he had failed so many, asking again for so many to be patient. True you may have been unwittingly wronged, and communications have evaporated, but now the only course left is... hope.

I went to high school and college with artists, married one and am one... when we're not beating ourselves up for coming this close to perfection with our own work, we're dreaming of creating something even more inspiring, if only we could be inspired.

Again I can only speak for myself... and I know you understand.

LJ

It is very difficult for an artist to constantly be motivated, even when hey are at the top of their game. It is very LONELY work, and while he may have a partner in life, that partner is not "doing" the art along side him. In a perfect world, the artist will continually put out work and never change, never burn out, never want to do work other than what the fans or excuse me clients demand.

I can't speculate on Jomaro, but I can understand that if he's behind, the end doesn't get any closer, no matter how much you want it to... the art has to be done, plain and simple, and that will sometimes sit in limbo for a variety of reasons. My main work stop is my wife, I cannot function if there is something wrong between us... thankfully that is few and far between. Regardless of the reason, motivation is something that can't be turned on at the flip of a switch...

I wish him luck with the monumental task he is undertaking, and to all of the clients, I empathize with your frustration. I have days where I wish my queue would disappear, but "this is the business we have chosen", so I try to re-motivate myself, and hope the guilt will somehow get less and less with each pencil stroke... okay back to work!

LJ

Well actually NOW is the time to offer such a trade, because of I13, many people will be starting on new servers where they have no influence to "bank roll" new toons using the new powersets.

A better alternative than having to buy additional slots.

I'd take you up on it depending on the server, but I am swamped with my own queue.

Happy Birthday French Dude!!!

Too awesome, I must return the favor someday... thank you so much!!!

Happy Birthday Khep!!!

Hot! Congrats on another great piece...

are these finished pieces? or just the flats stage? I kinda of like them the way they are...

faved, faved!!!

Very nice...

damn alex, that's some serious flood gates you've opened...
congrats to your gramps, give him a nice plate of lo mein for long life from me!

You need to write a book Zeik, I'd buy it!!!

I just wrote 2 tutes for this, here check em out:Tute 1 and Tute 2

However I have an entire gallery of Art Tutorials in my DA account, check these out from my

Favorites folder...

Good luck!

LJ

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!

*fanboy moment coming on*

Youdaman BW!!!! I loves it... can't wait to see more!

LJ

It's pretty good, but the tension in his face, doesn't match the lack of tension in his body... I would exaggerate the pose, or offset it to the left or right, to show more extension in the arm and ribcage. The piece is so symmetrical now, it seems as if he only lowered his arms and opened his mouth... hardly a convincing pose if you were going for drama, which I'm not sure if you were.

Love it!

...with apologies to ...

Spinomania, Turboski, Larissa Rasputin, Turkey Lurkey, Thor's Assassin, Gray Knight, Soul Train

and someone else...

LJ

btw i think the killer is radey-ayte...

LOVE it, thank you DE and Graver for your huge generosity and skill!

cute...