Justaris

Reposted due to updated information.


Fiat Lux

He can sense her approach long before he hears her footfalls on the hard stone floor, but chooses to let her draw near, giving the appearance of being lost in the book before him. The Stalker Sanguina, the most capable of his lieutenants, would never be fooled by such a cheap ploy - but it nevertheless remains important to demonstrate now and again who is in control, who is master and who is servant.

He listens to the report without much interest - much of what she describes will by now be in the process of quick and clean resolution. Sanguina has a Stalker's cold efficiency, one of the many reasons he selected her to be his right hand. She looks impatient; he knows she cannot understand his fascination with the old. Power armor and energy weapons are her tools, subtleties like strategy and history are too much in the abstract to hold any interest for her. Another reason for her selection - without that capacity, she can never be a threat to him.

Of course, the fact that she is a stunning young woman of the sort who, years ago, would never have approached him o her own free will may also be worth mentioning - even superior beings are not without their pride.

The psychic rises from his chair, carelessly setting the book aside now and abandoning the charade, signaling the start of the real business. He towers over the Stalker, his bright white hair flowing back over the collar of his fine dark Italian suit, a suit specially tailored to cover his massive frame and to allow for the odd angle of his hoofed feet.

His voice is deep, booming, carrying with it the rough edge of an old injury. "Arete has finished the latest upgrades in the lab? You've given her our message about taking breaks to torture Longbow agents?"

Sanguina nods. "She got the message. Fusion Generator should be back online within the week. And that 'other' problem, that Crey agent spying on us, has been dealt with. Appropriately." Here the stalker flashes a cold smile, a professional showing pride in her work.

The giant nods his head, turning his attention with other matters. "Well done. Recruitment is up, I take it? Very good. I shall have to have a little chat with them. " Knowing herself dismissed, the Stalker bows slightly and walks out, eager to resume her duties on the streets.

Few from the outside who enter this chamber ever leave it again, a massive stone atrium which gives the impression of an ancient keep -an impression entirely shattered as he presses a quick sequence on the stone before him. The stone wall lifts up into the ceiling with the soft whine of hydraulic pumps, revealing a state-of-the-art fortress, a large console before him displaying information on operations around the world. He pauses for a moment to listen to the thrumming of the fusion generator in the distance. It seems his resident scientist has been as good as her word.

No one would suspect such technological marvels from an old castle like this, and the master of the complex prefers it that way, to always seem other than he is. After all, a giant standing over seven feet tall, with the horns of a ram protruding from his brow and the cloven feet of an equine should well be used to being judged on appearances... over the years, he's come to make it work for him, to manipulate the perceptions and assumptions of others, the hypocrisy of the world around him.

And as cruel as nature is, she is not entirely unfair. With his grotesque deformities came a cunning and devious mind, a memory sharp as crystal, and the power to bend others around him to his will, remaking their dreams and aspirations as he sees fit. Yes, let in the latest batch of recruits... if there is another Longbow spy, he will break soon enough. Once the generator is finished, it might be amusing to watch that mad tinkerer Arete torture him on her tables. The rest will slowly become more and more his instruments, the tools of his will. Early in his life, the agent who blinded his left eye christened him Soulscryer... it's proved a fitting title.

Soon now, those training behind these walls and out on the streets will have the means to make themselves noticed. This world and the smug heroes who defend its status quo will receive a very rude awakening indeed. Heroes? Perhaps to the beautiful, the perfect, the wealthy. There were no heroes for a freak child, abandoned by his birth parents, getting by on whatever food he could steal or beg, travelling from place to place to avoid being locked up or put down.

Now the world will be different, a world built brick by brick by a careful and knowing hand, controlled at every level by the only real truth in this life: power. Those fools will never see it coming. Soulscryer will seize this world and fashion a better one from its ashes, a world in which hypocrisy like that of the Freedom Phalanx is wiped clean from the earth. Very soon now... an army of believers carefully conditioned and trained under the watchful eye of their master. Nothing will stand before the power of Fiat Lux.




We are a PvE focused VG with a general fanatic theme - RP into it if you wish, but far from required. The main thrust of the VG will be gathering Prestige and Salvage for a base as well as running mission teams, TFs and trials. This is not a PvP-centric VG Organized PvP (Raids, etc) is not planned to be a major part of this VG.

At this time we have a fully functional base including inspiration vendor, teleporters to all zones, workshop and mission computer (arcane version, Oracle).

We do not recruit by broadcast (sight-unseen), but if you wish to join you may send a PM to me, contact Soulscryer in-game or find a member of the VG to group with. After seeing you play in a few missions we will invite you to the lowest level of the VG. Active, respectful players are soon promoted to the second tier and can then recruit others themselves.

Leader: Soulscryer
Global Chat Contacts: @Xander Harris, @Boresight, @Iridial Flame
Website: Fiat Lux
Global Chat Channel: Fiat Lux
Server: Virtue

Overall, a good and thoughtful guide. I'll just add in my own experience playing as a /Poison MM who works primarily in groups. As far as I've seen, the effects of Envenom do not stack - though I believe the effects of Weaken do.

The only other thing I'd disagree with you about is Antidote, which is actually rather handy in groups, especially if you're going up against highly mez-capable enemies such as Freakshow or Rikti. It has a very long duration - throw it on the whole team before the fight and it usually lasts all the way through, a good preemptive measure to keep people from getting held. Like all such powers, it's also good for breaking status effects already on your temmates.

1) The only SG mission at the moment is the Silver Mantis SF, and is Villains only. To do this, you need a Missoin Computer or Oralce (Sidekicking/mentoring badge) crafted on the Basic Worktable or Basic Forge. The Mission Computer/Oracle is a control aux and must be placed in the control room once crafted. Naturally, you'll need a Workshop and enough power and control to run it.

2) I assume you're talking about aux items, such as a Database or a Mission Computer. Simply place it in the same room with the 'main' item it 'attaches' to. Be aware that rooms have a max of allowable aux items and main units have a max as well. The lower number wins out.

For example, the smallest control room allows four aux units. So, you place a Mainframe (tech main) and two databases and two terminals. That's four aux units. You could build a Mission computer, but you could not place it without deleting one of the other aux units (you've hit the room limit). Most control mains I've seen have an aux max of nine.

3) Yes, you can delete a room which will sell back the room and everythng in it for full value. HOWEVER, be aware that if any crafted item is in the room, you will receive a full refund of the Pretige placement cost but you will NOT receive the item back. i.e. you will have to recraft it.

Example: You delete your control room, which contains a Mission Computer, while rearranging your base. You get back the cost of the room and the cost of everything in it, including the 75,000 Prestige you paid to place the Mission Computer. However, you do not get the Misison Computer back and must craft up another six Tech Material Components on the Worktable and craft a second Mission Computer.

If you must move a room which contains crafted items, make another room of the same type to store the crafted things. Building, for example, a second control room, would allow you to drag the Mission Computer from the original to the temporary new control room. You then delete the old, make whatever else you wanted to make, then move the Mission Comptuer from its temporary home to your new permanent control room.

Takes some planning, but once you get the hang of it, it's not as complex as it sounds.

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I disagree. While the prices are very high and I wouldn't mind seeing them come down some, I don't think it's unreasonable to have to invest some time towards making a base. Also, I don't think that everyone is working towards the same goals. You want a PvP raid base. Others may want a PvE facilitation base, others just a fancy place to gather.

Overall, the current system works pretty well for giving the casual and RP community their gathering hall for a relatively small investment, a PvE for a proportionately larger cost, and the PvP as an evolving entity as you can always upgrade further, add more defenses, up your control and power to add still more defenses, etc - which in my opinion is a good system for the serious PvP community.

As for the PvPers who want to be 'leet' right now and lose patience quickly, well, honestly I think raids and the entire PvP system are better off without them. As for the IoPs giving small benefits, I suggest you check out the posts concerning the 'unique' super-IoPs, which do far more.

Obtaining and defending one such Item is likely to be quite a committment - honestly, I'd think it would be better to get a solid group of players together first before even going after one, and those who possess the patience to wait for a good base are going to be those kind of dedicated players. If you lose a few kiddieleet punks along the way, I'd say you're probably better for it.

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Maybe you havent really dwelved into base building that far. Say you want a defensive control center... Well thats like 1.5 million to be able to add 1 defensive item to the room. an item that will probably cost you another million to place. Its a slow, slow process if you want a "modest" defensive type base.

Another issue I havent seen really raised is that the bases really dont lend themselves to upgrading. Once you have rooms placed, if they connect to other rooms you cant really change them because it will break the contunity. So it will be a lot of selling back and deleteing several rooms just to add a larger or more defensive one. For instance you cant just upgrade a workshop to the one that accepts 3 tables. You either have to build 2 or go thru the complete rebuild process. Many of the rooms that allow you to place defensive items are larger, much larger in some cases. This in turn requires a larger plot. which requires more waiting and more complete rebuilding of the base

Then there are the defensive rooms. You cant simply just add a choke point or defensive hallway. You either have to go through the tedious process of selling everything back and deleteing rooms and then rebuilding everything or wait and wait and wait and build it right from the get go.

I spent a few hours on test coming up with a configuration taht would lend itself to future upgrades by being able to add doorways so continuity doesnt get broken and replace several long control rooms with defensive corridors. I dont think the majority of people are planning in that manner. I anticpate a lot of issues with upgrades in the coming months.

From what I see, its a much better option to just wait 4-6 months and save, save, save than it is to start and build in baby steps.

Then there are issues with salvage. Aside from slavage gain leveling off like prestige gain will, people in my VG are already running out of space to hold things because of the 20 item limit. In another couple of weeks we are going to just start having to build items we cant afford to place and actually have no place to put them since we dont have any defensive rooms.. and wont for a few months. And if you can place it requires much more power and much more control which puts you back to needing millions of prestige.

Thats what is discouraging... getting schematics and building an item you cant do anything with for 5 months.

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Um... did you happen to read my entire post? The whole point was that PvP ('defensive', to use your word) is the real expense and that PvE actually can be obtained fairly easily, with an RP haven (decorative only) being even easier.

I happen to have extensive experience with the base editor, thank you. I just don't happen to focused on raids, so I don't have as much frustration as a PvP-focused SG/VG would trying to get their defenses up, which are expensive. Now, I agree that the prices are too high across the board, but I do think the defensive rooms and items should continue to be proportionally more costly than the PvE. I've already outlined my reasons for thinking this in my original post.

Honestly, you can get a functioning base for PvE inside a month - I know because my VG has done it. Power, Control, Workshop, Medical and Teleporters for all targetable zones (for CoV that's three pads and six beacons). As for the frustration with the base editor, I suppose it could be more user-friendly, but with a little planning I've never had a problem with it.

Then there's your point about Crafting. There's a rather simple solution to that too - eventually your SG will reach a plateau at which there is nothing else they wish to craft aside from defensive items. For PvP raid groups, this point might come right after the mission computer, for more balanced groups it might be much later. Regardless, eventuallly you're pouring all of your Salvage into defenses, with the occasional break as you need to upgrade your control or power (likely control) to support the newest round of firepower.

So,simply leave your basic table out. Once you pick up your Supercomputer, you'd likely have enough control to keep all three up with the medical and teleporters. If you're a PvP only group without teleporters you might not even need the supercomputer to have all three tables, though you'd need a couple of databases hooked up. Anyway, once you've got the tables set up then all the members can craft defenses to reduce their own Salvage without needing to unload onto the character with edit powers. No one places the defensive items until you have the crafted power and control to run them, but you build your arsenal as you go.

It's not instant gratification and it does need work, but I don't see the need to cry doom and walk away as some have.

I disagree. While the prices are very high and I wouldn't mind seeing them come down some, I don't think it's unreasonable to have to invest some time towards making a base. Also, I don't think that everyone is working towards the same goals. You want a PvP raid base. Others may want a PvE facilitation base, others just a fancy place to gather.

Overall, the current system works pretty well for giving the casual and RP community their gathering hall for a relatively small investment, a PvE for a proportionately larger cost, and the PvP as an evolving entity as you can always upgrade further, add more defenses, up your control and power to add still more defenses, etc - which in my opinion is a good system for the serious PvP community.

As for the PvPers who want to be 'leet' right now and lose patience quickly, well, honestly I think raids and the entire PvP system are better off without them. As for the IoPs giving small benefits, I suggest you check out the posts concerning the 'unique' super-IoPs, which do far more.

Obtaining and defending one such Item is likely to be quite a committment - honestly, I'd think it would be better to get a solid group of players together first before even going after one, and those who possess the patience to wait for a good base are going to be those kind of dedicated players. If you lose a few kiddieleet punks along the way, I'd say you're probably better for it.

Fiat Lux

He can sense her approach long before he hears her footfalls on the hard stone floor, but chooses to let her approach him, giving the appearance of being lost in the book before him. The Stalker Bravura, the most capable of his lieutenants, would never be fooled by such a cheap ploy but it nevertheless remains important to demonstrate now and again who is in control, who is master and who is servant.

He listens to the report without much interest - much of what she describes will by now be in the process of quick and clean resolution. Bravura has a Stalker's cold efficiency, one of the many reasons he selected her to be his right hand. She looks impatient; he knows she cannot understand his fascination with the old. Power armor and energy weapons are her tools, subtleties like strategy and history are too much in the abstract to hold any interest for her. Another reason for her selection - without that capacity, she can never be a threat to him.

Of course, the fact that she is a stunning young woman of the sort who, years ago, would never have approached him o her own free will may also be worth mentioning - even superior beings are not without their pride.

The psychic rises from his chair, carelessly setting the book aside now and abandoning the charade, signaling the start of the real business. He towers over the Stalker, his bright white hair flowing back over the collar of his fine dark Italian suit, a suit specially tailored to cover his massive frame and to allow for the odd angle of his hoofed feet.

His voice is deep, booming, carrying with it the rough edge of an old injury. "Arete has finished the latest upgrades in the lab? You've given her our message about taking breaks to torture Longbow agents?"

Bravura nods. "She got the message. Fusion Generator should be back online within the week. And that 'other' problem, that Crey agent spying on us, has been dealt with. Appropriately." Here the stalker flashes a cold smile, a professional showing pride in her work.

The giant nods his head, turning his attention with other matters. "Well done. Recruitment is up, I take it? Send them in, I'll have a little chat with them. " Knowing herself dismissed, the Stalker bows slightly and walks out, eager to resume her duties on the streets.

Few who enter this chamber ever leave it again, a massive stone atrium which gives the impression of an ancient keep -an impression entirely shattered as he presses a quick sequence on the stone before him. The stone wall lifts up into the ceiling with the soft whine of hydraulic pumps, revealing a state-of-the-art fortress, a large console before him displaying information on operations around the world. He pauses for a moment to listen to the thrumming of the fusion generator in the distance. It seems his resident scientist has been as good as her word.

No one would suspect such technological marvels from an old castle like this, and the master of the complex prefers it that way, to always seem other than he is. After all, a giant standing over seven feet tall, with the horns of a ram protruding from his brow and the cloven feet of an equine should well be used to being judged on appearances... over the years, he's come to make it work for him, to manipulate the perceptions and assumptions of others, the hypocrisy of the world around him.

And as cruel as nature is, she is not entirely unfair. With his grotesque deformities came a cunning and devious mind, a memory sharp as crystal, and the power to bend others around him to his will, remaking their dreams and aspirations as he sees fit. Yes, let in the latest batch of recruits... if there is another Longbow spy, he will break soon enough. Once the generator is finished, it might be amusing to watch that mad tinkerer Arete torture him on her tables. The rest will slowly become more and more his instruments, the tools of his will. Early in his life, the agent who blinded his left eye christened him Soulscryer... it's proved a fitting title.

Soon now, those training behind these walls and out on the streets will have the means to make themselves noticed. This world and the smug heroes who defend its status quo will receive a very rude awakening indeed. Heroes? Perhaps to the beautiful, the perfect, the wealthy. There were no heroes for a freak child, abandoned by his birth parents, getting by on whatever food he could steal or beg, travelling from place to place to avoid being locked up or put down.

Now the world will be different, a world built brick by brick by a careful and knowing hand, controlled at every level by the only real truth in this life: power. Those fools will never see it coming. Soulscryer will seize this world and fashion a better one from its ashes, a world in which hypocrisy like that of the Freedom Phalanx is wiped clean from the earth. Very soon now... an army of believers carefully conditioned and trained under the watchful eye of their master. Nothing will stand before the power of Fiat Lux.



We are a PvE focused VG with a loose fanatic theme - RP into it if you wish, but far from required. The main thrust of the VG will be gathering Prestige and Salvage for a base as well as running mission teams, TFs and trials. This is not a PvP focused VG. Organized PvP (Raids, etc) is not planned to be a major part of this VG.

We do not recruit by broadcast, but if you wish to join you may send a tell to Soulscryer or find a member of the VG to group with. After seeing you play in a mission we will invite you to the lowest level of the VG. Active, respectful players are soon promoted to the second tier and can then recruit others themselves.

Leader: Soulscryer
Global Chat Contact: @Xander Harris
Website: Forthcoming (not yet created)
Chat Channel: Fiat Lux

Fiat Lux

He can sense her approach long before he hears her footfalls on the hard stone floor, but chooses to let her approach him, giving the appearance of being lost in the book before him. The Stalker Bravura, the most capable of his lieutenants, would never be fooled by such a cheap ploy but it nevertheless remains important to demonstrate now and again who is in control, who is master and who is servant.

He listens to the report without much interest - much of what she describes will by now be in the process of quick and clean resolution. Bravura has a Stalker's cold efficiency, one of the many reasons he selected her to be his right hand. She looks impatient; he knows she cannot understand his fascination with the old. Power armor and energy weapons are her tools, subtleties like strategy and history are too much in the abstract to hold any interest for her. Another reason for her selection - without that capacity, she can never be a threat to him.

Of course, the fact that she is a stunning young woman of the sort who, years ago, would never have approached him o her own free will may also be worth mentioning - even superior beings are not without their pride.

The psychic rises from his chair, carelessly setting the book aside now and abandoning the charade, signaling the start of the real business. He towers over the Stalker, his bright white hair flowing back over the collar of his fine dark Italian suit, a suit specially tailored to cover his massive frame and to allow for the odd angle of his hoofed feet.

His voice is deep, booming, carrying with it the rough edge of an old injury. "Arete has finished the latest upgrades in the lab? You've given her our message about taking breaks to torture Longbow agents?"

Bravura nods. "She got the message. Fusion Generator should be back online within the week. And that 'other' problem, that Crey agent spying on us, has been dealt with. Appropriately." Here the stalker flashes a cold smile, a professional showing pride in her work.

The giant nods his head, turning his attention with other matters. "Well done. Recruitment is up, I take it? Send them in, I'll have a little chat with them. " Knowing herself dismissed, the Stalker bows slightly and walks out, eager to resume her duties on the streets.

Few who enter this chamber ever leave it again, a massive stone atrium which gives the impression of an ancient keep -an impression entirely shattered as he presses a quick sequence on the stone before him. The stone wall lifts up into the ceiling with the soft whine of hydraulic pumps, revealing a state-of-the-art fortress, a large console before him displaying information on operations around the world. He pauses for a moment to listen to the thrumming of the fusion generator in the distance. It seems his resident scientist has been as good as her word.

No one would suspect such technological marvels from an old castle like this, and the master of the complex prefers it that way, to always seem other than he is. After all, a giant standing over seven feet tall, with the horns of a ram protruding from his brow and the cloven feet of an equine should well be used to being judged on appearances... over the years, he's come to make it work for him, to manipulate the perceptions and assumptions of others, the hypocrisy of the world around him.

And as cruel as nature is, she is not entirely unfair. With his grotesque deformities came a cunning and devious mind, a memory sharp as crystal, and the power to bend others around him to his will, remaking their dreams and aspirations as he sees fit. Yes, let in the latest batch of recruits... if there is another Longbow spy, he will break soon enough. Once the generator is finished, it might be amusing to watch that mad tinkerer Arete torture him on her tables. The rest will slowly become more and more his instruments, the tools of his will. Early in his life, the agent who blinded his left eye christened him Soulscryer... it's proved a fitting title.

Soon now, those training behind these walls and out on the streets will have the means to make themselves noticed. This world and the smug heroes who defend its status quo will receive a very rude awakening indeed. Heroes? Perhaps to the beautiful, the perfect, the wealthy. There were no heroes for a freak child, abandoned by his birth parents, getting by on whatever food he could steal or beg, travelling from place to place to avoid being locked up or put down.

Now the world will be different, a world built brick by brick by a careful and knowing hand, controlled at every level by the only real truth in this life: power. Those fools will never see it coming. Soulscryer will seize this world and fashion a better one from its ashes, a world in which hypocrisy like that of the Freedom Phalanx is wiped clean from the earth. Very soon now... an army of believers carefully conditioned and trained under the watchful eye of their master. Nothing will stand before the power of Fiat Lux.




We are a PvE focused VG with a loose fanatic theme - RP into it if you wish, but far from required. The main thrust of the VG will be gathering Prestige and Salvage for a base as well as running mission teams, TFs and trials. This is not a PvP focused VG. Organized PvP (Raids, etc) is not planned to be a major part of this VG.

We do not recruit by broadcast, but if you wish to join you may send a tell to Soulscryer or find a member of the VG to group with. After seeing you play in a mission we will invite you to the lowest level of the VG. Active, respectful players are soon promoted to the second tier and can then recruit others themselves.

Leader: Soulscryer
Global Chat Contact: @Xander Harris
Website: Forthcoming (not yet created)
Chat Channel: Fiat Lux

A heartfelt thank you for this - I was getting a bit tired of the Sally Watch, ever fruitless. I only hope it reaches the live servers soon so that I can go after it. Echoing others before me, exemplary customer service on this one. Good show.