Johnny_Butane

Only the Australian Lumberjack knows for sure.



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Step One: Get a snake.
Step Two: Shove its tail in its mouth.

Yer done!



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Technically, even though the leak was on Test and not the GR Test, but since only people in the GR beta at the time could get on Test...eh nevermind.

Mod 12 nuked the thread in the beta forum with pictures. Which is odd, because they've done little to stop people from talking about it since.



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Let's discuss worse case scenarios. So we get Tankmages...at 50...after earning a bunch of slots.

-We'll have people soloing at +4x8.
We already have that with some ATs. The game hasn't exploded.

-People start soloing Monsters and GMs.
The rewards for GMs and Monsters are so meager it's not really worth doing more than once for bragging rights.

-People start soloing the existing level 50 TFs.
Again, see above. There are already better ways to farm.

-The current level 50 content will be trivialized.
It's already trivial for some. As it should be, this is a game not a job. If you want challenge from the content we have now, don't be an Incarnate, just like now if you find the game too easy, don't IO out and min/max.



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I remember the fire damage one, but not a toxic damage one. There was also a -regen one.




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Besides the Alpha, the first four slots shown were all things most players would like:

-An extreme AoE attack
-A team buff
-Utility/damage bonus for your attacks
-Pet summons


It seems to me the obvious bases have been covered. It makes me wonder what the last four (Omega Slot excluded) will be.



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Doomsday cannot be modeled in game because unlike CoX characters, he only gains XP when he faceplants.

Which brings up an interesting idea for a defensive powerset. The set would be based around faceplanting (no Firey/Energy Aura jokes please). You ride into your first spawn with the expectation you'll fall, but when you use the second core power of your set, a self rez, you come back stronger than before. Eact time you rez, the buff stacks to a point. The first core power of the set would obviously be a passive that provides debt protection.




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For the little vertical movement you ever do in this game, flight temp powers suffice.

Seriously, if the speeds of the travels were fairly balanced against each other, you wouldn't see a skew towards any specific travel in either PvE or PvE. They'd all be roughly equal in popularity.

I'd say you definately do see a skew away from Fly in PvP, not as much as Teleport now, mind you. 90% of players in PvP I've seen are SS, SJ (or both) with flight temps. It's called 'lolFly' for a reason.

In PvE, I'm inclined to believe that most people just go for concept anyways, regardless of the numbers. In other words, The people who take Fly don't take it because of its advantages, but take it inspite of its flaws. Further, I think even if Fly's horizontal speed was the same as Super Speed's, you would still see a lot of Super Speeders in PvE regardless.

The people who pick for concept will pick the travel that fits their concept no matter how it performs. The min/maxers will pick the "best" performer no matter which travel it is. In that light, it seems silly to me to balance the travels like they have, or to claim they're balanced when there seems to be two that have been judged as clear 'losers'(or at least lacking in performance).

The question I ask you is this: If a power is outclassed by its peers, yet is popular despite that fact, does that mean the devs should do something? History says they usually do, because there's been a number of powers and powersets that were far from being unpopular, yet had flaws/issues and got buffed.



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People aren't taking flight temps for speed. They're taking them either for brief vertical movement or to position themselves stationary in the air. There is no advantage in Fly for that. The endurance drain difference is negligible.

Your point?

Neither do temp powers or Day Job rewards if you're competent.

Again your point? Travel supression only really matters in PvP and most PvPers aren't taking Fly because a) it's slow and b)You can 'cheat' movement supression with Super Jump.

The number of people attempting Master runs is tiny compared to the entire population of the game. If they're built well enough to attempt Master runs, chances are they didn't take Fly.




I said "as cheap and easy".

There are like a half dozen ways to get flight temps, one of which literally involves you logging out and doing nothing.

Ninja Run =/= Super Speed
Ninja Run < Super Speed

Seems like a waste of slots, considering what happened to BotZ.



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Look at what their response to the Party Pack backlash was: Distract everyone with a "party" that only served to promote sales of the pack and toss a couple freebies to quiet the rabble.

Those are not the actions of someone who's done wrong and is trying to make up for it. Those are more like the actions of someone who knows they're being greedy and is trying to minimize damage with trifles in time to make their next grab for cash.



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When you put it that way, sounds like something perfect for the Incarnate system; Incarnate class travel powers.

Unfortunately, cool requires effort. I try not to hope for cool things like that in this game anymore.



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IIRC, the main reason they're adamant about not upping the flyspeed cap is technical. The engine simply can't load and unload assets fast enough and if you're high up, you'll really notice it. I don't think it's even a function of your system speed, the bottleneck is in the engine.

Still, it'd be nice if Fly had a "super sonic boost" effect done with teleportation like Shield Charge or Lightning Rod.

Or at least if they gave Fly a secondary effect that didn't come with temp power flight.


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I suspect you're right.

Three auras show up, chances are as part of a build they're working on at the same time.

Fireflies: Free
Snow: Free
Storm: For something else


Does not compute.
The fact they're going to remove Storm strongly indicates whatever it's for is going to cost extra. If it was for i20, why wouldn't they just leave it like the other two?
Why one weather-themed aura and not another?


With that in mind:

-In light of the Party Pack and to a lesser extent the Mutant Pack before it being so overpriced and anemic...

-In light of Going Rogue being unpolished and underwhelming in a number of areas with parts being delayed and prepurchase customers being ripped off for value and content...

-And with the overall content of the past issues shrinking ever since these microtransactional packs were started...

I'm drawing a hard line and simply refusing to purchase any more packs or expansions, no matter what they contain, until the devs get their stuff together.

These booster packs have been a slippery slope and in my opinion, the quality and value levels of the main game have suffered for it. We now pay for stuff we used to get for free and the content in each issue paid for by subscription is, at present, inadequate for a pay to play title, in my opinion. I do not pay a monthly fee so I can continually have a hand outstretched to me asking for additional money. I may not have always agreed with the dev's design choices, but I have never felt I was being ripped off by them or the game...until now.



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So you argue the AT descriptions applies to AVs too?


"The Tanker is an irresistible force combined with an immovable object."

AVs are resisting my irresistible force.


"The Tanker is a devastating hand to hand combatant"

None of my Tankers are devastating any AVs.




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In my opinion, that is exactly where Scrappers are now.

In the comics, great power comes with great responsibility. Tankers have been burdened with being responsible for aggro and being the front line, usually alone. I guess the power got lost in the mail. If merely surviving is your definition of power, Hibernate and Phase Shift are the most powerful things in the game.


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This is the singular most respectful, understanding and reasonable reply I've ever gotten.

I would say as things stand now, Brutes conflict with Tankers. Even with the Fury changes, Brutes still want aggo and so do Tankers. They'll never 'play nice' together because of that. It's like Stormies and Melee ATs: neither is doing anything but what they were intended, but they'll chafe none the less.

Also, personally, I'm sore about Brutes getting a mechanic designed and originally intended for Tankers, even if I'm not the biggest fan of said mechanic. It's the principle and just another example of the devs giving Tankers the short end of the stick.


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See my replies a couple pages back to Leo_G and Another_Fan.



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Unless it's a Scrapper. Because when you can get enough survivability to fight whatever you want, more than that isn't really needed or better.

I don't see a balanced video game around here.



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You could also walk up to him as a Stalker in Hide and use /em batsmash.

You'll be "fighting" him as much as any Tanker would be "fighting him."

And a Tanker as two options: win or wuss; and even when not fighting an AV Tankers are hampered by their attacks.

You argue statemating to an AV is better than simply not being able to survive it. I counter that by saying there's lots of ways to increase your own survivability in this game and almost always you can layer them, and more are added all the time. Any AV a Scrapper can't solo now, there's a good chance in the future he'll be able to whenever a new temp power(depending on your personal rules) or IO set comes out. There's no real offensive equivalent to capping your Defenses, and there's no Wedding Band or Eye of the Magus for killing things(Geas makes me laugh). Even with the Incarnate system, it's not not particularly geared to increase damage.



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That was a reciprocation to Bill saying "L2P".
I only act like a jerk to people to act like jerks to me first. Besides this thread, Bill has a history of that with a bunch of people who are too polite to repay him in kind.



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This is the only Brute I truly have room in my heart for...





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Sorry, I wouldn't cheer if I saw someone with a trust fund win the lottery either. It doesn't mean I have something personal against them.


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