Jiaozy

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but can you do without a tanker after SO .
That is definetly a yes

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As you can do without any other AT at any given point in the game, no ATs are required nor needed to make a team work but some may make the team work easier: if I play a fire blaster or another AoE heavy AT(like Khelds in Nova form) I'd rather have a tanker than a troller in team.

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His secondary while being weak SS is also canceled at higher levels cause of RAGE .
Stone secondary is the only one that gave me the utility i wanted , high damage, range attacks and crowdcontrol .

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I don't know if you've seen a SS tanker play, but SS has the 2nd best AoE attack in the tankers secondary for damage(Footstomp, the first being Fire Sword Circle)but it's made far better than FSC(IMO)due to his knockup that decreases greatly the incoming damage, crowd control like Stone(Hand Clap has knockback and Fault doesn't, but used wisely it can be an advantage, not a drawback)and you can get your big, single target, holding attack 18 levels before you can get it in Stone melee.
SS is the best mix you can hope, good single target damage, a wide, crowd controlling AoE attack(Footstomp has 100% knockup)and as icing on the cake you can pick Rage to add acc and dmg to all of your attacks(the end crash has never been a problem to me).
Other sets may have better powers for each of these aspect(Fire has better AoE, Ice melee has better crowd control and Nrg Melee has better single target attacks)but SS sums them all up

Imo in a tanker the power you have to pick asap is your status protection, in Ice Armor you can get that power at lvl 6 (Wet Ice)and even if the mez aren't that much(not completely true as clocks have tesla cage, trolls can knock you back, up and sideways while stunning you and the lovely Frostfire can hold you)you'll need it if anything for traveling in a more safe way, without the risk of being knocked down by a boulder of a troll and ganked by his mates

BB's build looks like what I would go for(and like what I've done, except I have energy melee)and it's a pretty solid build.

No one posted this yet!
Shame!!

Many grats to Nadesico that hit 50 today during the last Shadow Shard Task Force!!

Clickable Magic Moment

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J. Brute had publicly slated me for the massive knock back the suit’s AoE blasts caused.

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OI!
It's not just JB, it's any toon of mine!
Nice one Power

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Massive congrats Devi !!
(I don't think you could have got that 'DING' pic to look any cooler )

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Of course! I am in there!!!
Grats Devi, been fun seeing you ding off Requiem

I'm up most evenings this weak, 8pm onwards, still in need of a travel power tho

The passives are really naff, they offer little resistance..
BUT..
RPD is worth taking cos it stacks with Temp Invuln and gives you a nice res to S/L, Tough Hide is really good because is like Weave but without the end cost, being passive.
I would suggest to pick the Fighting pool(Tough and Weave)instead of the passives, you'll have a bit more end drain but you'll be a lot more tough, even more when I7 will come out and bring us the defence changes

Not the best to reply to myself but..anyway, where do we meet?

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To learn how to politely stop knockback players rescuing defenceless enemies from your icepatches, then faceplanting as they get up and thank him.

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You can never explain to an nrg blaster that his useless nrg torrent, power push or explosive blast will only send the mobs flying and scatter them while aggroed on him.
They'll _always_ fire nrg torrent into your herd, always use explosive blaste when you have a nicely packed mob and always push the EB-/Boss away into another mob with power push/power thrust.
They have those powers and they fire them. Anytime they're up. Slotted for knockback.

I tried everything to make them understand but it's been useless, I tried to be polite, I tried to shout and I tried to show them what I meant..To no avail..

I need this TF as my lvl 33 earth troller but I've got to do the Multidimensional badge mish at 8, when I'm done I'll send u a tell and see if u already started or if I can join.

No worries Dag, so far we have:
<ul type="square">[*]Void Jiaozy - lvl 44 Warshade[*]Pyrus(spelling?) - lvl 50 Tank[*]Super Electrode - lvl 50 Blaster (assuming this is the alt you need the badge with?)[*]Atreides - lvl 50 Blaster[*]Frosty Robot - lvl 50 Tanker[*]Dagar - lvl 42 Scrapper[/list]This looks much like a formality to splat those Hydra Men and get the badge with all the 50s around
At this point I think anyone that needs the badge can come due to all the SKs available

Well done Rocky!
After a lot of retirement u made those 4 levels faster than I thought possible, almost Blapper-like!

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I'll be reserve again with Nadesico, maybe we can run for 2 teams if we got enough reserves?

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Yup, last time we managed to arrange 2 teams, maybe we can do the same this time aswell!
If we don't have 16 people we may look for someone to help us start the TF and then quit.

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If it's rearranged at the weekend I'll join in.

We really need an active badgehunter chan too

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er... you mean like 'Union Badgehunters'?

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yup the one I kinda refuse to go back into thanks to some mod issues

Badgehunters ftw ftw!!

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You can come back Nef, they now have me as mod!!

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I'm like the only one with any skill, because of all the RTS.

&lt;/PurePwnage&gt;

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And modest as always

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Its just a fact of life for Kheldians that Voids and Quantums hate us! Killing Kheldians if their only purpose in life!

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But it make me feel good having a special kind of mob(Void Hunters) and special weaponry distributed around the wolrd because they fear my power!!

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I still think it'd have been a draw at least if you hadn't seen me the day before.

Anyhow my point was that I've beaten Supposed Scrapper neuterers with my Scrapper, J. So there's your answer you can change your veiw now.

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Uhmm...I think I always expressed myself bad when talkin of this subject...
Lemme try again..
Even in this game you have to know what to do, when and how, to beat your opponent despite the build, but anyway the build helps, a lot.Using a build in the right way can be classed as skill, no doubt.
But IMO the skill of a player that wants to do PvP is seen only when you have the same potential as the other.
In games that are like the old Ultima Online everyone had the same hp, weapons etc..but it was the skill that made a good player beat a newbie and where a newbie had little to no chance against someone that's good at it, it was not having the right powersets, skill, class, item or the right build. It was like Quake: same HP, same spawn location, same weapons; all the rest is skill(leave alone the poor lamers that like spawn camping).
That's what I class as skill and IMO in this game the AT and build you play have way too much influence on the outcome of a PvP match.
When I said this game doesn't require skill I always thought of the kind of 'skill' that I used to see some time ago..
Nowdays all of the MMOG are based on your class/AT, build and equipment, helping the less skilled player to look like they're at least decent while the build helped a lot.

When I think of skill there are no game nowdays where you can really see it due to all of the n00b-saver measures that the software houses are putting together to make everyone enjoy the game.The less-worse thing I can think of is WoW but even there you can pick the overpowered class and look semi-decent...

Sorry for the long post, hope it helped to clear my point of view on the matter.

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I can guarantee i will whinge, whine and complain if i do it again

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LoL I know the feeling Del xD

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I'll actually be able to tank now

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Or I could take your place with my WS and his Eclipse

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never heard it either

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Ditto.

Is this still goin on btw?

I just picked up the Multidimensional badge mission (Defeat all villains in area from Tina Macintyre), said badge is needed for the Portal Jockey Accolade.
If anyone wants in sign up here or turn up at Portal Plaza the 24th at 8pm GMT.
The mission will be around lvl 45 so people around that level or higher is more than welcome.

EDIT: I'll give priority to people that wil help do the mish, so I'll get lower level only if we won't have a full team of high levels.

I never said PvE needs skill, but that doesn't mean that for PvP it is required.
Skill is having the same 'build' and having other people around the world have the same potential as you and still being superior.
Skill is not having the most acc/perception/dps and hitting the button you need.

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Skill is not required in this game to do PvP.

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Wait a minute did they swap PvP and PvE around while I was gone or something?

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I made PvP in games where skill is required(like WoW and Ultima Online pre-AoS), I wasn't uber but I lost quiet a lot of time PvPing and that was really a challenge of skill, where everyone had the same potential but only those with more skill were strong, here you can pick the uberest build and even in the hand of a mediocre player they look awesome.

To my amusement i found ouy that there are at least 2 (TWO)members of the AC online very often!!