Insane_Samurai

Uh oh, more reasons to ignore pvp zones....

*cries as any long thought out posts are buried by tons of short psuedo-flame wars*

I'm kinda new here but I'm guessing this always happens? People get bickering about this and that, alot of times not even about something on topic, and any useful discussion is lost in some peoples need to post back and forth, arguing with each other a couple sentences at a time.

I see the PM option, haven't used it but I doubt its hard. Maybe instead of talking to each other in a thread discussing the buffs/storage coming in I7, you could PM each other. Or you could make a thread about base cost, how much stuff you get, or what you think about the base design... I dunno thats just me and my logic, I've been told its strange sometimes :P


EDIT: GammaEmission- what I'm talking about is stuff like what you and sakado just did (no it wasnt just you two). It's making it hard for not just people like me to see the thoughtful posts, but more importantly the Devs. If someone posts something that takes alot of time in response to what was originally posted, its kinda annoying that something like that can be totally missed by the devs because of some argument that you just admitted was stupid(yet defended two posts later *sigh*). And no thanks, I won't get drawn into another argument for your amusement, despite you insulting me. Yeah i'm off topic, but I'm asking for it to stop. You however, are acting like you rule the board. A third of this page is your posts, and the majority of them are two sentences or less. When you look at the content of all this, and how much of it matters in this forum, well I don't know why you're even here. Go stir up crap somewhere else, all you've been doing here for who knows how long is arguing with and/or passively insulting others.

mistform, when people in your groups are leaving every 20 mins to go get buffs, I think you'll see what I mean. Implementing it this way to save PvP does no good at all.

I like the idea of a 5 min clickable, you hold it, then choose what 5 mins you use it in isntead of haul butt, pray for no long loading times and/or crashes, then hope you can get to the fight and kill what you're trying to before it wears off. Just make it so you can hold one at a time and there should be no problem.

If everyone is so scared of PvP becoming even more broken, then why not just disable them in PvP zones? That would give us PvE(you know, the original way this game was made) players a neat useful thing that wasnt nerfed into a total waste of time because of something alot of us don't even care to do.


Think about this too, say everyone in the group leaves to go get the buffs, do you start when the tp people get back? or do you wait for the ss and sj-ers? or do you wait even more for the fliers? If so, waiting for all the flying toons in your group to slowly fly to base and back, that could very well take near 15 minutes depending on where your mish is.

EDIT: changed haul butt didnt know the other one was censored, sorry.

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But, better to start at "too weak" and buff as needed, rather than "too strong" and nerf it, right?

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Bingo.

Making the buffs be Inspiration or Click-power like is just ASKING for abuse. Besides, that's the type of stuff the Invention System should deal with.

Empowerment stations are instant buffs. You are bathed in radiation/magic/etc. on the spot and get a bonus to your travel speed/lethal resistance/attack speed/endurance recovery/knockback protection/whatever you need at the time, right then and there.

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Uhh... abused how?

You mean PvP huh?

*grumbles at PVP screwing up CoH/V in so many places*

Ever think how much trouble you could save people if you just said "screw PvP, it can't be balanced if we want to keep adding fun things to the game"

Look at stalkers. Neat idea for a class, fun to play PvE, yet totally broken beyond all fairness in PvP. Who friggin cares about balance there when there are stalkers killing half the players in the game in one hit? Do you think a buff from a SG base is really going to change that? If anything it might make the cont/def/blaster/mm/dom NOT get one shotted(or two shot with I7 whoopdeedoo), and that would be a good thing right?

Is abuse of a power buying it, then getting on a group, then using it at a tough spot? That doesn't seem like abuse to me, that seems like a temp power.

If there's another way to 'abuse' a temporary power I'd like to know what you're talking about, since I doubt this means anything apart from PvP.


What the heck can be so amazingly broken about choosing when to use your boost that you paid for, rather than run and load and pray you have 3 minutes left when you get back to the fight... that is if the team really feels like waiting for you to trek to your base and back.

Man I thought this idea was going to be great.... Now I'm probably not going to use it at all, plus I get to cringe every time I have to put 5-10 more minutes delay in a game where teams sit around and do nothing for about half the time they are together anyway. I can see it now:

*group waiting outside mish*
guy #1: im almost there sorry, i need to go to every store to get the most money(another fun thing devs put in to waste our time)
guy #2: ok, ill sell too then i guess even though i only have 2 enh
guys #3-5: dang we have to wait more? ah well.
*5 minutes later, boss kicks parties butt*
guy #3: Ok this guy too hard, must get SG buff
guy #4: yeah me too brb
*10 minutes later, they get back, party is half asleep, but the battle is won finally... 4 mobs later the buffs are gone, another boss shows up*
Guy #2: oh no another boss, guys go get your sg buffs
guys 3-4: kk
me: *shoots self in head*

I just want to throw in that I also think a 15 minute from craft buff is very impractical. We have to leave what we're doing, go back to the base and craft, then go right back to get any of these new 'useful buffs'? How is that user friendly? Some of us need to restart after zoning too many times in a session, and now its going to be even worse.

Also, grouping takes long enough as it is, waiting for everyone to go sell betwen mishes(since everyone's broke in CoV). Now everyone in the group who doesn't have these SG items is going to have to wait for those who do every time a hard fight pops up. This is just not going to work out well at all.


Oh and to the guy bragging about killing people in PvP with a stalker... thats like bragging about how many slugs you can throw salt on. PvP with stalkers is lame, I dunno how it can be fun for anyone other than kids who want to be 'more uber than you'.

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When did this become an 'Ask Statesman' thread?

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Kinda when people realized that even huge threads with a ton of useful info get ignored if the devs don't play the same kind of toon that you do.

AR/Dev is totally worthless now, its impossible not to see, yet nothing is being done about it. Why? I have no idea really, but I'm guessing that nobody with say in the balancing plays this build(maybe they do, just not past lvl 10). Can't you guys just test this out? Make a lvl 40 AR/Dev blaster, and compare his damage with other types. Devices has been a worthless secondary since ED, and its not like its hard to tell.

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Well, States is "happy with defiance", which means he must be happy with the crapperific bugginess of the inherent.

Fix it please

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Whoa, Statesman doesn't play ANY blasters? Dang thats kinda depressing. I had a little bit of hope too