Golden Girl
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I'll PM him, in case he doesn't come back to this thread
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Quote:PowerOriginally Posted by Noxilicious
So why would a villain want to join a place where you either have to be an expendable lackey or face the death penalty when Primal Earth offers me so much more?
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Quote:Poor COOriginally Posted by Anti_Proton
As human beings, it is our purpose to advance the species and anything that functions to counter that is fundamentally evil.
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Uh, you might want to edit something out of that post, PsiBug
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Quote:Not always - wild, no strings attached sex is also an acceptable option for fanfic - although it lacks the hawt angst of a proper slash relationship.Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
*sigh*, damn fanfic writers. Yes, everyone who ever meets has to fall in love *eyeroll*
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Quote:Like ancient Rome?Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Not really. Moon and Underwater Zones aren't needed, and don't belong.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Prove it.
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Good and evil are not relative - there is absolute good, and there is absolute evil.
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Quote:The part where the coldblooded killer decides to reform because someone doesn't run away from themOriginally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
Show me where the logic fails, then.
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Quote:Well, ok - but don't say I didn't warn youOriginally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
In other words, a Hero joins the Resistance and starts to realize that everything goes smoother without the restrictions from the FBSA. He begins to work outside the law, and becomes a Vigilante. Every law he breaks is just makes the next one easier, until he is more concerned with the thrill of the crime than the good he could be doing. At that point he says "Screw these Resistance Losers, I'm going to the Isles!" and is now a Villain.
Meanwhile, the Villains have flocked to Tyrant. He has the power that Recluse never could have. Under the new regime they are not only free to crush hope and kill, some times they are even told to do so! Yet the oddest things happen, when that Villain is told to crush some do-good Hero types running around with that Resistance thing...the people cheer him. They do not run away. Instead they praise him for upholding the peace. The Villain then begins to realize that it's not that bad a feeling, and doesn't mind working with the Heroes quite as much. He then becomes a Rogue (horrible name for the faction, but I guess it had to go somewhere) But it's not long before the Rogue realizes that people are cheering for him even though his orders are still horrible. He starts to feel bad for what he is doing, and what he has done. This is when he says "Screw this, I'm going to see what tin face has to offer, maybe I can go straight." And thus has joined the Heroes.
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Quote:You've already been disappointed once with GR - don't set yourself up for another oneOriginally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
Hence why they leave Tyrant once they do make the final transition and go work with Statesman.
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Quote:The murder part might make it hard for them to become a HeroOriginally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
"Come for the soul crushing and murder, stay for the good feeling when civilians cheer your efforts to keep the peace."
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Quote:I'm not sure the info we've had so far on Tyrant and his thugs really matches that viewOriginally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
Yup.
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Quote:Which would have to mean that Tyrant is the route that leads Villains to the good sideOriginally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
However, now I realize that it will be the Resistance who is much more likely to show the Heroes what committing crime is like, even though it will be crime 'for a good reason', the destruction of Tyrant's rule.
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Quote:Just the sort of thing a villain would sayOriginally Posted by Du Hast
There is no such thing as heroes and villains, only "my side vs. your side"
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Something that might be a clue as to where the Ghouls come from - the shackles seem very big, so it's possible they're the kind used to restrain superpowered people.
I know Statesman is held with some kind of energy restraints in the current Tyrant misison, but those might just be for the extra powerful superpowered people.
These ones on the Ghouls might be strong enough to resist super strength, as well as maybe block magic and psychic powers. -
Quote:But what if harming a few innocents would safeguard the vast majority of their fellow innocents?Originally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
Up until this thread I was thinking that Tyrant would lead us unto evil. But looking back that just makes no sense. All it would take is the first mission to kidnap and 'disappear' one person who has committed no crime what so ever, and anyone even approaching decent would punch his superior in the face and jump sides. It doesn't matter what kind of person they are, anyone who would harm the innocent was NEVER A HERO TO BEGIN WITH.
A superpowered guy who won't play ball isn't innocent - he's a threat to soceity - failing to use his powers to help Tyrant maintain order is selfish, so he should expect to be removed from the society he shows so little care for.
But if his wife/girlfriend starts asking difficult questions, then she's still innocent of any major crime - so mindwiping her is actually doing her a favor - when she returns from the Asylum, she won't remember any of her previous life, so no more concerns over what happened to her partner - mindwiping frees people from anxiety and doubt - it's for their own good, as it makes society calmer and more peaceful, an doesn't require anyone to be killed.
The Mother of Mercy facility brings the mercy of release from harmful thoughts and memories, benefiting both the individual and the society they're released back into. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Profanation
In your face lumpy, plastic-looking celshaded face, CO!
Fixed
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CO came in behind SWG?
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Quote:GR will let us decideOriginally Posted by Psyte
Of course, some villains have great intent.
Here's a related question:
Do the ends justify the means?
Or does the means justify the end?
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Quote:There may be other inspirations tooOriginally Posted by Paladin_Musashi
I'll admit I can't stand the Kheldian lore. It smacks of super goofy "cosmic" comic book plots from way back.
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Quote:You want to RP a Ghoul? I'm not sure there'd be much character development for themOriginally Posted by BrandX
OMG! I want those wrist/ankle/neck shakcles/collars/whatever you want to call them, as costume options!
Not only that, I want them to be costume items that work with exsisting gloves/boots (I'll forgive the neck one having to be used by itself).
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Quote:I think they're neutral, as they only seem to be motivated by hunger.Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
My theory: The Ghouls are former Resistance members who have been captured and condemned to death in the Dims. That explains the tech shackles.
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Quote:Tyrant and his thugs will be a mix of these threeOriginally Posted by Silverado
Combination of both
If you mean well, but do bad, you're not evil (but you may go to jail).
If you mean bad, but do well, you're not evil (you can always get away with saying you meant well).
If you mean bad AND do bad, then you're evil (which includes kicking puppies and clubbing baby seals).
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Quote:Yes, it leads to hate, and then sufferingOriginally Posted by Warkupo
I especially think that last line in his biography is a major clue that Calvin will not always be asking us to do things we feel are morally justified. Vengeance is a hell of a motivator, sure, but anger makes it difficult to have sound judgment.