Golden Girl
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Quote:I think you'll fine the crime rate is as high in Praetoria as it is in Paragon CityOriginally Posted by The Hound
Personally, I'd join up with Emperor Cole!
A clean living, Clockwork robots that will gladly do all the little things, food on the table every night, keeping the streets safe, yep, I think I could find myself settling into an imperial lifestyle overnight.
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So speaking out against Tyrant is "causing problems"?
Quote:They read all your thoughts.Thought police? Yeah, they keep people from thinking things like "I want to kill him." Fine by me.
As long as you're not a psychic, then you're turned into a mind-slave Seer - or if you're superpowered, you're forced to join the Powers Division, where only 10% survive the indoctrination process.Quote:Who's being repressed? We all get along and are well taken care of. -
Quote:You can only use the Incarnate system if you own GR - the first Incranate level in GR, and the following 9 levels in I19 will require a copy of GR to access them.Originally Posted by Shadow Wail
here is a death trap I stumbled when it came to the Incarnate system...
--If GR introduces one incarnate level and they are subsequent to each other then if we didn't buy GR and we didn't do the first Incarnate level then the following incarnate levels wont be active?
I am confused because if this is the scenario...we will all have to buy GR to get that incarnate level unless the incarnate system is able to skip and stop as we pick much like the Power Pools.
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Quote:You seem to be saying that as long as you personally had the small things you think of as freedom, you'd be happy to ignore society as a whole.Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
What about 'em?
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Quote:And what about your fellow citizens?Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
How much freedom do you really need?
You let me read my Bible, eat food I like, log on to City of Heroes... I'll be fine. -
Because talking is very important
It's how we break down the lies of Tyrant
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Quote:I think you might find it's more than "a little less free"Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I'm going loyalist. Paid better, fed better, live in the air conditioning. I'll take perfect but a little less free over living in hiding, scrounging for food, in fear for my life with the resistance.
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Quote:Marauder might find that interestingOriginally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I didn't say that I'd be that effective! In my mind, though, I aint a grunt. I'm head of the Powers Division.
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Quote:You don't have to live in the sewers to oppose TyrantOriginally Posted by SwellGuy
I'm still hanging with the Emperor. No sewer sauce in my food, please.
Maybe the Emperor would like to have a state run MMO.
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Quote:Neuron's clockwork would hit on you.Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
i would try to hit on bobcat.
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You can fight against the dictatorship even if you don't have superpowers.
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Quote:I think you'll find there's just as much crime there as on Primal EarthOriginally Posted by painfullvirus
I would be a loyalist get an apartment, a job and try to move my family there. I would love to live in a place with no poverty or crime!
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Quote:So, you're just one among thousands of grunts in the Powers Division, and your boss is an immortal god-emperor who beleives he has created a utopia - how would you rate your chances of getting him to reform his system?Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Which is why I mutter "Prime Directive" and stumble back to Primal, where things make sense.
In all reality, though, I think that Cole is too close to a perfect government. He has a better thing going than any government I've ever seen. Granted, it's messed up in a lot of truly abhorrent ways. That being said, the Resistance wants to shake the Etch-A-Sketch, and that just doesn't jive with me. I'd rather work with the Loyalists in order to reform the wrong parts of Cole's philosophy.
Remember, this is a utopia - it's perfect - and changing perfection can only mean making it less perfect.
Reform would be a crime, citizen. -
I'd join the Resistance in an instant - but not as an evil anarchist - I'd be a genuine freedom fighter.
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Quote:The problem with that approach is that it presents a superpowered fascist dictatorship as an acceptable option - it's not.Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I was under the impression that, depending on perspective, the Loyalists and Resistence are both heroes and good guys. It isn't like Primal Earth, where people literally take on the titles of "Hero" and "Villain". They are in a moral quagmire that does not translate to Primal standards. You have an utterly Adamantium Fisted fascism vs. Complete Anarchy, with compelling arguments on both sides. When you factor in the fact that most humans in Praetoria don't want the freedoms the U.S.'s Bill of Rights grants, and you end up with a very unusual situation.
It's kind of like when the U.S. went to war in Iraq recently. War Protesters: If you were for the war, they were likely undermining the strength of America at a vital time, making them villains. If you were against the war, they were the voice of sanity in a corrupt situation, making them heroes.
Making it clear-cut is a dangerous thing. Though I know some do, I refuse to do so.
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Quote:This is correctOriginally Posted by JanusFrs
Damn! This, connected with CoH:GR, has gotta be the most exciting issue in a while!
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War Witch has said quite recently that they're working on ways to make teaming easier.
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Welcome to the game and the foums, Danny D
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Quote:Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Like GG, for example
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Quote:I think Praetorians with the mentality of the Freaklshow would be very likely to join the Resistance.Originally Posted by Vyver
To me the Resistance outfits look like a more hightech version of the freakshow. Maybe the Resistance is the Praetorian Freakshow.
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Quote:Well, I want to visit Praetoria - maybe decline one of the offical tours and go off on my own to experience the culture first hand for a more authentic picture of the placeOriginally Posted by Bull Throttle
Ha, I sort of expected that.
I can't see you switching sides either, so will you buy GR?
If so, why?
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Quote:NoOriginally Posted by Bull Throttle
I have to ask, will you be breaking the habit of a lifetime and rolling an alt?
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Quote:Plus, it might be interesting to think how groups like the Freakshow, with their mindless anti-authority violence, would have evolved in Praetoria, where there is an authroity that genuinely needs to be resisted.Originally Posted by KayJMM
Both sides have lots of purple on it... only at the very last moment they decide to go Blue or Red... ^_^
Well, you find good and evil persons on both sides. Its easy to imagine an idealistic hero, defending praetoria people... who suddenly discover that he was promoting the opression of everyone around him. When someone is totally taken by some kind of ideology they can be blind to everything up to the last minute... Then, when he is show the "other side", he can be badly broken and turn to a deadly evil villain... or try to redeem himself and became a blazing hero... -
Also, you'll probably want to play through Praetoria several times anyway, as War Witch has said that the new 1-20 content is much "thicker" than the curent blue and red 1-20 content, as there are multiple paths through it, with multiple contacts for each level band - so it sounds like that instead of having one chain of contacts leading through a zone, there will be multpile contact chains through each zone.
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Quote:Well, if some of Tyrant's thugs have been brainwashed into believing that they're heroes protecting Praetoria, then becoming heroes protecting Paragon City would seem like an obvious choice for them to make - plus, they might find the presence of another Marcus Cole there quite reassuring.Originally Posted by Bull Throttle
Okay...I've been avoiding reading up on it to avoid spoilers.
It sounds a bit pointless if you can side with Tyrant and then choose to be a Hero.
But that might also work the other way around form some of the Resistance - if they've sepnt their lives trying to overthrow one Marcus Cole, they mightn't be too enthusiastic to go to a place where another Marcus Cole has a lot of influence.
Plus the Resistance would be likely to attract some bad types to it anyway.
