FunstuffofDoom
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Quote:No, no, no, see, it's not what you're saying that's getting you into to trouble; it's that you are even there at all. Is their reaction extreme? Perhaps. Is it unjustified? No.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But I openly walked in the front entrance, and the first thing they did was shoot at me - plus, I don't wear armor, and my head is uncovered, so they could hear me perfectly well - I was like "hi, I was wondering if I could bor..." and then they just opened fire - what was I supposed to do?
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Quote:Don't play coy. It's way below you.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But he doesn't tell us to steal it - he just says to get what he needs - so it's not our fault that Crey isn't interested in discussing a load of their tech
Regardless of the words, the intent is 'I need tech' and the solution is walking into a Crey warehouse. If you walk through Harlem in a KKK suit, it's true that people might not beat you bloody stupid, but I defy you to find a person of reasonable capacity who wouldn't expect a beating as a possible response.
Likewise, you can enter a warehouse saying "Oh, I'm here to borrow something, and I'm going to ask nicely, first", but I know that if I caught you in my house under those exact same circumstances, I'd hit first and ask questions later. Especially since your cries for diplomacy are undermined by your suit of combat armor. -
Quote:Thank you. This thread's got a lot of win in it, no?Originally Posted by Manny
I love that character FunstuffofDoom, great job
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Quote:See, this ties back into my earlier thought on retroactive vindication. Sure, the game let you know that it was okay to take what you wanted because the people you were taking them from were jerks, but you didn't know that when you left. You were sent off to go get something, and not to take 'no' for an answer. You went to Crey offices with the intent of committing an immoral act, and because most people are capable of considering morality as context-sensitive, you were given a justification to continue.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I must have missed all the innocent and unaware civilians when I did it - the Crey staff all pulled guns on me the moment they saw me - they didn't even give me the chance to explain that I was only there to ask if I could borrow the power supply item for an important time travel related security issue which they, as a company devoted to the public good, would surely want to stop happening too - they just opened fire, so I had to defend myself.
I'm not saying that the action isn't necessary, or that it doesn't benefit more people than it harms. Just, don't confuse 'excusable' with 'moral'. Theft is excusable. It isn't moral. -
So, this is a character I put together after reading up on Mass Effect's biotics, and thinking it was a really cool idea, but not really wanting to play a Gravity or Kinetics. I'm pretty happy with the results.
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Quote:But beating up potentially innocent and unaware civilians to steal it? Or is it okay, but only so long as you call it something more ambiguous? Artifact relocation? Targeted acquisition? Resource management? Pressing need? Greater good?Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Crey are a criminal organization - impounding their tech is ok.
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Quote:I never thought you'd be the one defending the idea of paying evil onto evil, GG.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But that mission comes after you're done the Crey arcs in the levelling timeline - by the time you help Daedalus, the game is assuming that you're totally aware of Crey and know the truth about them.
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Quote:Some of it I run fairly often. It's an interesting trade-off of wanting to get myself to the twenties as soon as I can, but knowing there are a couple of important things that need to be completed first. Vexingly, they cannot be rushed.
Incidentally, when was the last time you actually ran low level hero content?
So, yeah, in-game it's well justified. Definitely. But, there are certainly times when I'm travelling from point A to point B, and I notice a small group of people standing near each other. As I approach, they react such that I can justify getting my stabby on. But sometimes, that's game mechanics retroactively approving of your actions, no? When I drop onto a bunch of crooks arranging a drug deal, I didn't know what they were doing when I decided to move over to them. I moved, and then was told they were bad people, who I could hit.
It's... a bit backwards to me. And, to over-analyze just a little bit, from an in-game perspective, I'm accusing these people of crimes, and then looking for evidence, not finding evidence and then accusing. Which is really just a small puddleskip away from some bad things, no? -
Quote:Oh, yeah. Self defense I've got no problems with. But, if we are assuming that our characters aren't in a game, and thus don't have handy flashing lights to identify who is and a criminal, it seems a bit... Judge Dredd-esque to just walk up to a group of people and beat them silly 'cause they look like some other people you've beaten up in the past.Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
Dressing as a gang member is not a crime. However, if you approach these loiterers, they will pull weapons on you and attack - and assault is a crime. Attacking before they attack you is questionable, though.
Hell, twenty years ago we called that racism. -
I'm kind of curious how Daedalus became tech-savvy.
Also: this one isn't as bad as breaking and entering, and I'm not familiar with the legal system enough to know, but is dressing up as though one were a member of a gang a punishable offense? 'Cause, throughout the lowbie zones, you can beat the snot out of various and sundry people for the crime of dressing up before Halloween. -
Quote:Okay, I've been seeing that phrase for years, and I need some help from someone who speaks Spanish well. Does 'Sí se puede' have an idiomatic meaning, or does it happen to make sense in multiple tenses/moods/whatever? 'Cause, as best I can tell, it doesn't mean anything but 'Yes, one can', or 'Yes, a person can.'Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
Metal Armor/Metal Melee for I20! Yes, we can! Si se puede!
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Quote:Of course not. And this certainly isn't a funny digital manipulation. Honest.Originally Posted by theOcho
It would be terrible if some official employee went in to this thread and suggested that for humor value digital manipulations of this picture could be posted. Absolutely terrible.
I would never do that. Never.
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Quote:I counter with MA/FA.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
There isn't one. All scrapper combos rock.
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Quote:So do the Knives of Artemis.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Tell us something new
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Quote:That's.... is 'incredi-douchey' a word? And if not, can I make it one?Originally Posted by srmalloy
The original version of the Hami raid was extremely subject to griefing. Originally, Hamidon was up all the time, except for a period right after he'd been taken down. This made the 'Heart of the Hamidon' badge more difficult to get, as it was basically suicide to get to except right after a Hami raid had completed, than it is now, where the bowl is empty unless people have worked to spawn him, and you can just walk up and get the badge.
The basic process was to have a tank taunt Hamidon with an empath keeping them alive, while one or more Illusion trollers/fenders dropped Phantom Army onto Hami to help keep him distracted, then a mass of characters roamed the goo in a pack, healers spamming heals, taking out the mitos one by one. Then everyone who didn't have a hold left the goo while the rest spammed single-target holds until Hami stopped attacking the taunt tank. Then, while the holds kept going, everyone threw attacks at Hami until he died.
Now for the griefing part. On his death, Hami spawned a 'Hamidon Bud' -- basically, a micro-Hami -- one for each character in the zone, and killing the Hamidon Bud got you an HO. You can immediately see where the AoE Blasters could steal HOs from the defenders and controllers, and sometimes the tanks. If you couldn't kill a bud fast enough, you got squat for your time, which could be up to two hours.
This was changed so that anyone who'd done damage to Hamidon got an HO, which resulted in people hanging out waiting for the damage phase to start, then zone in and take one shot at Hami to get their HO, avoiding all of the defeats and debt the rest of us got while whacking the mitos. The population of the Hive would often go from 60-80 to the (then) 240-character max once the damage phase started, from all the people coming in to leech an HO. (And, not incidentally, creating an amazing amount of lag.)
In the major revision to the mechanics of taking Hamidon down, the zone capacity of the Hive was reduced to 60, preventing the mass influx of people seeking to get an HO on the cheap, and changed the mechanism of taking him down to not require groups larger than the zone capacity. -
They do note that new!Hami is significantly better than old Hami. He mentions that there a problem with people leeching HOs off the raids. Was he just throwing more fodder on the fire, or was that an actual problem?
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Quote:I see, thanks.Originally Posted by Camper
She's talking about the major story arcs, not missions. You know, the ones marked on your contact list with little books. It used to be that you could only have 2 major story arcs open at a time, if you had two open you could never get any more. This caused all sorts of grief and trouble.
Apparently, you can now have 5 major story arcs open at once. Which is nice. But it was a stealth update that was never mentioned anywhere. -
Quote:"Mission UpdatesOriginally Posted by NekoNeko
I'm getting kind of tired of the stealth patches, the latest was this and the stealth patch to raise the number of open major story arcs to five from two. I wish they could see fit to clue us in on these things in the patch notes.
Players can now have 7 active missions, instead of just 3."
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I once saw a blaster, Ice/Ice. She was level 50, with Ice Bolt, Ice Blast, and Chilblain. And she worked her *** off to get there. I was duly impressed.
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Quote:As per ParagonWiki:Originally Posted by BlueBattler
Why are you assuming that Serafina wants a heroic Scirocco?
Quote:Serafina is a Genie who assisted the last hero to take up the mantle of Scirocco, helping him until his death in the Rikti War. With his dying breath he asked Serafina to help the heroes of Paragon City, which she does to this day. But now that a villain has stolen the mantle of Scirocco from the true successor, Serafina is determined to see the powers of the wind returned. So, yeah, perhaps a bit of synthesis on my part, but I think, when considering these, it speaks to my point. I'm sure someone with a fine-toothed comb could do better.Quote:...When the previous holder of the mantle died in the Rikti war, I became one of the candidates. But Serafina had supposedly lost much of her power in the battle, and I took the mantle for my own. Now, after regaining some small measure of her former power, she seeks to take back what was once hers to give. -
Quote:A flip through ParagonWiki hasn't illuminated me. Are you referring to the fact that she cursed him? Yes, I'm aware she and he both say so. It seems to me, though, that if your goal is to get a heroic Scirocco again, cursing Scirocco so he can't be heroic is rather backwards at best, and downright evil itself, depending on how this curse actually works.
Have you asked Serafina about it?
As to my thoughts on Scirocco, himself, well. The nature of actions and justifications is such that two people can preform the same action for very different reasons. Hero X might stop a pair of thugs because they were mugging an old lady, and Villain Y might stop them because he wants to steal their dope. With that in mind, I fail to see how Scirocco is unable to preform heroic actions --he merely has to justify said actions as serving some ignoble goal-- except that he does not, in fact, want to be heroic.
So, is he sympathetic? Perhaps. Is he an anti-villain? No. He isn't doing anything morally ambiguous. He stole power, and he's justifying his continued misuse of it in such a way as he's blameless.
And most people stopped using lame excuses like "A genie made me do it!" when they were out of preschool. -
Scirocco an anti-villain? Yeah, he might like to think so, but all I hear coming from his mouth are excuses and rationalizations for his actions. He doesn't do a damn thing heroic. Hell, he'd rather change the fabric of the world, so he'd be heroic by default, than actually go out and be a hero.
And don't try to sell me any of that curse malarky. I'll believe he's got no hand in his fate when I see it. -
Quote:I lol'd.Originally Posted by Smersh
The pathetic anarchists... and their cries of democracy...
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The last time I did a sewer run, eight of us entered in Atlas. Seven of us exited in Boomtown, and all of us were at least level ten.
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Quote:The difference between weed and flower is subjective. That Tyrant would make a claim to distinguish between the two is human; that he would enforce compliance with his views? Monstrous.
A garden untended is merely weeds.
I do not dispute his intentions, merely the sacrifices he makes to achieve him. His world is not philosophically sound, and his rule is ultimately arbitrary. Or, to put it in simpler terms, if his world is everything he claims it to be, why haven't I the right to opt out of it?