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I won't post them. I consider myself at least partially guilty because one of the reasons those characters were made was to bait those types of players, so I have some responsibility for the blow ups.

The other reason was to prove, even if it's only to myself, that those characters can kick a$$ even if their "gimped".

I also haven't been on those particular characters in a few months. I've been beta testing STO.


Edit: Sides, M_B is right, it's not my place to teach them a lesson so I really should start working on making dual builds for them. It's easy to justify your actions to yourself, but when shown in the light of public opinion they look like excuses for acting petty.

That's why I stopped putting those guys on ignore. The crap they spew when they get indignant is just too damn funny.

Way to go Quinch. Don't worry about the people that don't understand why you want to do this. I've been kicking around a similar idea myself for RP reasons in different zones. I've got a few to almost the levels I want.

The devs have told us that the money they got from all the extras that are sold for the game have helped pay for speedier releases of issues. Start taking that money away and we'll have to wait longer for new stuff. Boosters, server transfers, rename tokens, and respecs all contribute.

And who is going to make up for the lost income that would have been used to pay for new content?

Please disregard anything said by the person quoted. He doesn't like this game and it's a good chance he's only posting here because he has an agenda.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...34#post2559134

What she said they said.

Actually although those are terms people use, I think what they are really trying to say is that all it takes is a little bit of effort, and not being stubborn and inflexible about what you want.

For example I have a character based on a burning insect. Common sense told me that when I decided to choose his name I wasn't going to get Firefly. So rather than get mad or stubborn about it I decided to think of alternatives. I settled on hitting an online language translator to see what fire looked like in other languages and settled on Feuerfly. Got it first try.

Thank you for bringing that up because I tend to block the PvP zones out of my mind.

Oh the sweet irony. In one breath they argue that the random acts of kindness are because they care and want to help their fellow players, then turn around and in the next breath they declare, "deal with it" because they don't care about you.

This is why I think the most peaceful way for the devs to resolve this would be to give people the ability to choose to accept/block buffs. Then the people that don't want buffs can set their toggles and go on their merry and the good samaritans can play the way they like. Everyone's happy. There'll be no more nerdraging on the forums about "I hate SB's" or "Suck it up Princess". Every time the devs have given us the ability to block something in game the number of complaints drop to almost zero.

I rarely see arguments anymore about blind invites, PL/Farm spam, RMT spam since we got the ability to

Block invites - Set your flag to red
/hide from searches
Block emails from people not on your friends list

Thanks for proving my point FourSped.

The venom and bile expressed above is an example of the type of person that would go out of his or her way to harrass someone with a drive-by buff if they saw that someone was in an SG named "No Buffs Please".

He or she wouldn't be stupid enough to stand there and spam unwanted buffs on one person repeatedly because that could get them nailed for griefing. No it would always be an "accident" every time they saw someone in that SG.

Oh I know nothing here is personally directed at me. I just wanted to show that it's easy to view the way that one thing that was being said in a negative light.

I am often guilty of saying things in a manner that gets taken the wrong way, and just as often I don't realize it until it gets pointed out to me.


I only meant that the SG thing is far from a perfect solution. It's also why I used the () because there no way for me to even guess at how many people happily join such SG's and how many would insist on solo versions of the SG's.

Oh and on the topic of griefing, we can't always rely on griefers being stupid enough to spam grief on one person frequently enough to justify reporting.

With a "No Buffs Please" SG we could easily see people doing something along these lines.

Jerk 1: (tell) Hey look at that there. Teh SG name is No Buffs Pls. Watch this.
Jerk 1 then buffs the guy
Jerk 1: (Broadcast) Oh Sry! Didn't see the SG name.
Jerk 2: (tell) Rofl! Wait I'm next!
Jerk 1: (tell) noob should lrn2play! let's go see if there are any others around.


Obviously there is no way for us to guess how often things like that happen even now, but an SG name like that could draw that kind of behaviour.

I'd much rather a unobtrusive toggle rather than a sign.

The SG idea did occur to me but sadly that would mean only 11 people (4 if they are EU players) could have such an SG. Add to the fact that a lot (not all) of the people that don't want any type of buff for any reason tend to be solo players they aren't going to be the type that want to share an SG with other people.

The number of ways to say "no buffs please" is very limited and it's very likely the number of players that would like to block buffs is greater than the number of variations available as SG names.


Also while you only ecountered one person that griefed you when you had the sonic issue, other people aren't that lucky. For example take a look at some of Psychoti's posts down in the rude tells thread. That guy is a magnet for jerks.



Just think about it Bill, if I were to come over to you and do something you found irritating and when you asked me to stop I said, "Look I did this because I'm a good Samaritan and what I did is for your own good. Furthermore if I see you in the same situation in the future I'm going to do it again because it's for your own good, and I like helping people whether they want my help or not. If you really don't want my help then carry a sign that tells me not to help you." Now seriously tell me you wouldn't think of me in a less than positive light.


Now personally the only drive by buffers that bug me are the ones that do it when it isn't necessary or repeatedly after they've been politely asked to stop, but I can accept that there are people that are more sensitive about the issue.

First off Wendy, Please please please understand that this is not directed at you personally. You just happen to be the latest person to say something along these lines and I'd like to address it.

In order to assist those people that don't want any "help" from drive-by buffs, please explain step by step how they can get this sign everyone keeps telling them to get.

Can they get it at the tailor? If so explain exactly where in the costume creator it can be found.

Is it a title? If so what level do you have to be to unlock it? Or do you get it from a contact? Who is this contact and where can it be found?

Do you get this sign from a badge? Is it part of an accolade that has to be unlocked?




Well? . . .







Still waiting . . .

My only hope is that if it is something non-trivial it will at least be something they have on the shelf and work on from time to time so that we might see it implemented at some point in the future when they discover that they are a little short on an issue and decide to finish it off and throw it in the game.

I understand what you're saying. The point i was making is that the size of the group making the request isn't always a motivator for why the devs add or remove features to the game. They do what they think is best for the game as a whole.

No problem. I understood that your son's account is inactive, I just mentioned it because there really was no need to go to the trouble of creating an entirely new account then create a throw-away character just to do some invites/transfers.

There's also the benefit that by reactivating your son's account, even if only for a month, is that he might find some spare time during the time it's active and could jump on his account for some relaxing gaming.

More people have voiced their desire to block buffs over the years than people complained that they wanted the 60 day rule removed from the Market because they were too lazy to log into their characters at least once every 60 days.

Yes I do.

Level 27 Earth Control / Empathy Controller who only has Healing Aura in his secondary powerset. He's filled his choices from Flight, Fitness, and Leadership. According to the Hero Planner I can get to 50 with only the Aura.

Then there my 22 Bubble Def that only has PFF, Force Bolt, and Dispersion Bubble.

My 28 Sonic Def with Sonic Siphon and Sonic Dispersion

My 29 Rad/Rad that doesn't have any Rad buffs.

And finally my 50 kin def with Transfusion, Siphon Speed, Repel, Inertial Reduction, and Fulcrum Shift.