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Tonight I decided to toggle between my usual shows (NCIS) and SGU. Once again I'm uhm disappointed with the writing. C'mon that's how they chose to explain how they got another shuttle? I'd much rather have preferred them encountering another automated gateship and learning it had a shuttle that they could take for their own use rather than resurrect some characters we already wrote off as dead just to kill them for no better reason than the writers realized they screwed up by destroying the only shuttles Destiny had.
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I don't expect them but I would appreciate something along the lines of what they did last year.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zyphoid
With that said, I have not seen spammer in a long time. They frustrate me because I am pretty sure they are the source of the horrible economy.
Just curious, You don't think that 300 billion (or was it trillion) that was accumulating during the years prior to the market being added to the game had nothing to do with it? -
Quote:I still laugh at the guy I saw this same thing happen to. This happened this past January in another MMO that launched in February. An RMT site got into this guys account and started spamming that games forums with their website and services.Originally Posted by SwellGuy
When I see this I can only imagine they were using someone else's account who had foolishly paid for a power level or they had subbed using the credit card of someone who had bought inf.
<pause while this sinks in>
YES! The dummy bought stuff from an RMT site for a game that was still in prelaunch open beta, and the game servers were getting erased before the game launched!
Now as I recall this guy had said in earlier posts he had bought at least three different copies of the game (minimum $150. spent) for the pre-order perks, and he also bought a lifetime subscription (another $230.). So he lost at least $380 bucks plus whatever he spent at the RMT site.
I can just imagine his Charlie Brown "AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGH!" when he discovered his account was banned before the game went live.
Stupidity like that deserves to be ridiculed.
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I think the comments that we both have seen are true. As to the rest, I'm not a programmer nor do I know how the devs assign people to fix exploits so I can't honestly judge how hard it is to fix these exploits but I do think the GM's could do a heck of a lot better job enforcing the rules.
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Quote:I'd support this. They already have a precedent that keeps people from switching factions rapidly.Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
About the most reasonable I've seen suggested is a "level brake" - limit of, say, 5 levels a day regardless of however much it's run. That way the person's still rewarded but even the worst exploit is limited - no 50s-in-a-day.
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Quote:That's funny cuz whenever this game gets brought up on other MMO forums I continually see people complaining how they quit this game because the devs nerfed their favorite exploit or how our GM's banned them for some (in their opinion) "trivial" EULA violation.Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
I know exactly where you're coming from. Based on everything I have seen since I started playing, the GM's and the dev's have reacted very sluggishly (or not at all) to many different EULA violations & exploits, some of them extremely serious.
It's not good for the long-term health of the game. CoH has a pretty well established reputation as 'City of Exploits'..
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I can believe that they are still around, but I don't notice them anymore because the first thing I do when I create a new character is set up my chat channels so the only chatter I see is from the private channels I've joined.
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Quote:I agree. That is what I meant when I said it's not the message itself. Some people only think of RMT as spam but that's not the only kind of spam there is.Originally Posted by TrueMetal
Being against the rules has nothing to do with wether something is spam or not. All that it has to be is an unsolicited message that's trying to 'sell' something to people. Whether that is influence, a SG or larger genitals, inside or outside the game.
Oh and it's not just the "selling" that's spam, the "begging" is just as bad and includes people asking for everything from inf to team invites (PL meh!).
I've even seen a moron begging for Vanguard Merits and another for AE tickets. The character the Vangaurd Merit begger was on was only level 8 so he couldn't even get into the zone (it was still level restricted then) even if the merits were transferable. -
Quote:It was 3-4 years ago but yeah. I saw it in the hero tutorial but I can't remember which server it was on.Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
That's creative, you've seen this?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Valerika
I don't think he was stealth-editing that post, Forbin. I think he just didn't know how to use quotes, and as a result, he ended Panzerwaffen's post, hit enter, and then added his own highly sarcastic two cents. My guess is he just needs to learn how to use /quote twice in one post.
EDIT: You know, it is actually a little more difficult to post quotes from two different people in the same post. Does someone have things like that stickied somewhere?
If that is what happened then I apologize for misunderstanding what he was attempting to do. (Bolded to indicate sincerity) -
Quote:Stealth editing another persons post and adding a bunch of crap they didn't say is really stupid (especially when that post is in the same thread) because the original unedited post is available for everyone to see and requote.Originally Posted by FiberOptic
Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen View Post
How can you make a successful SG by randomly inviting players you know absolutely nothing about? It may not be your intention, but it certainly sends the message of someone who doesn't care about the kind of players in the SG, but only about getting as many members as possible to grind out prestige.
That's the way to go: spamming, grinding out prestige, more uncaring ceaseless spam, grind out prestige. It's SG building 101, fast track base building 101, How I built an SG base in 34 days by Howard B Jerk.
I am with Hot Mike, who has time to create a toon, start a team, chat it up, ask if anyone wants to join SG, quit team, start team, chat it up, ask if anyone wants to join SG, blah, blah, blah. Just start the spamming mills and watch the prestige roll in. I start SG's all the time and lord help any poor sucker logged in when I get a hankering for recruitment. That's the American way, high speed, high efficiency, recruitment. Like Hot Mike said leave the namby pamby chatin to Chuckles the Clown.
This is what Panzerwaffen really said
And here is a direct link to his unedited post.Quote:Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
How can you make a successful SG by randomly inviting players you know absolutely nothing about? It may not be your intention, but it certainly sends the message of someone who doesn't care about the kind of players in the SG, but only about getting as many members as possible to grind out prestige.
Honestly, if I was looking for an SG, your recruiting tactics would steer me away from your group completely.
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Quote:Originally Posted by TrueMetal
So, if you get 1 email every 5 minutes trying to sell you influence that's not spam?
Right.
No it isn't spam because I get it every 5 minutes. It's spam because 1000 people get the same message in those 5 minutes.
Also spam is not limited to RMT so don't try to confuse the subject by deliberately focusing on RMT companies. Their services are against the rules regardless of how they advertise whether it's
Announced in a global channel
Sent via tell
Sent via email
Recruiting people to teams/SG's and telling them about the services
Advertised in the SG MOTD (Message of the Day)
Spelled out on the walls of a base in wall lights
Constantly being spoken by NPC's in an AE mission
Spelled out in corpses falling from the sky (done in another game)
Spelled out using chest symbols on disposable characters on a bunch of trial accounts -
Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
You actually misunderstood what I was saying as far as who was getting "punished" by not having Double XP weekends. I really don't care about the frequency (or infrequency) of when they've been run in the past.
My point was this: if people have been abusing various ways (whether they are considered exploits or not) for Power Leveling large amounts of XP quickly for years then how could the latest AE thing in particular be a specific reason to justify a Double XP weekend moratorium? Bottomline the Devs seem to be technically "punishing" everyone for the actions of a handful of AE farmers they can't seem to control.
Also I would argue that the Double XP weekends aren't really just a tool the Devs use to encourage people to play during downtimes. They've run Double XP weekends during times when other new updates/Issues had already bolstered interest in this game.
I'm not complaining that I want another Double XP ASAP. I was simply pointing out the silliness of the idea that we should not get a Double XP weekend until the latest AE exploit is fixed. If the Devs now want to avoid giving us another Double XP weekend until all the applicable exploits are fixed then we might as well resign ourselves to never seeing one run again.
First off I honestly didn't think you were complaining that you wanted another 2xp weekend ASAP. I only thought you were chiming in with your perspective on the discussion. I'm sorry if my posts gave you another impression.
In hindsight what I should have also said was that I don't think the AE issue is the only reason we haven't seen more than we have this year. I'm guessing that with all the other stuff that we have/had going on this year the devs may have decided that there was enough events on the schedule that they could hold off on a 2xp until after they fiddle with the AE problem. -
Quote:Again it depends on how frequently the message is sent.Originally Posted by LISAR
And sending the same message to everyone levels 1-10 you can find is?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Steel_Shaman
Someone sending me tells asking me to buy inf is spamming.
Someone sending a tell asking if I would like to join an SG is not spamming.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I don't get offended at being asked a question by someone else. When it comes to SG invites, my reply is always "no thanks" because I have two SG bases of my own to look after so all my characters go into my SG's.
Let me ask this question: if someone you don't know sends a tell asking if you'd like to team up, is that spamming? And if not, what's the difference? Both situations involve a complete stranger asking you a question completely unsolicited by you. Have we really gotten so insular as a community that all communication must be a certain way or it upsets us?
The content of the message isn't the spam nor does the number of people recieving the message determine if a message is spam. It's the speed at which the message is being sent out that makes it spam.
For example:
Repeating the same message 100 times in 5 minutes is spam.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Feycat
Not everyone has been here forever. If they do not address each NEW exploit that their faulty programming creates, then people cannot be expected to simply extrapolate.
Also, would you link me to that post or page please?
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...05&postcount=1
Then there's the follow-up thread that goes into further details
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...75&postcount=1
Hope those help. -
8-10 NCIS after that I log onto the game and play for a couple hours.
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Quote:Even if we wanted to give reasons we can't because it's against the forum rules to discuss other games.Originally Posted by Medic_brietz
I am waiting for someone (even though these are all biased opinions here) to give a devils advocate good reason to try CO.
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Quote:I wouldn't be too concerned. I've seen similar attitudes expressed by other players over the years and they either learn to change the way they express themselves in the game or they end up like the occasional poster that claims "The servers are dead!" because their attitude has alienated them from everyone on whatever low pop server they make their home. They can't seem to understand just how close knit the player communities are especially on the low pop servers.Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Yeah, I'm getting the impression based on both the OP and Mike's subsequent responses in this thread that:
1: He doesn't handle criticism well.
2: He's not interested in any discussion or feedback on this subject
3: Despite the thread not going the way he seemed to expect, and replies being pretty much overwhelmingly critical of his SG recruiting methods, he has already made up his mind that he is right & anyone who feels differently is wrong or overly sensitive about 'spam'.
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Quote:No one is jumping to conclusions nor are they not reading the whole thread. We are well aware that the Mods have been in this thread and pruned some of the posts. The very first day you posted people provided you with links to a sale that was going on at a popular online store where the $40 dollar edition was being sold for $20 bucks, and although the sale continued until noon the next day for whatever reason you chose not to take advantage of the sale.Originally Posted by angelbound
Some of you, not all of you. I kindly thanked the ones who pointed me towards the 9 dollar cyber monday again I greatly appreciate it, that is the issue with forums though 75 percent of the people do not fully read the thread and kind of jump to conclusions on the end.
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Quote:You're right. With everything else that happened this year I completely forgot about that weekend. Thanks for correcting me BrandX.Originally Posted by BrandX
Well, we did have a double XP weekend this year.
When Dual Pistols became available to pre-orders, Double XP weekend started like 2 or 3 days later. -
Quote:Originally Posted by angelbound
Look you guys are being rude to me in some ways, you kind of remind me of a certain community of a certain mmo I cannot stand and all that will do is keep new players away, I am glad some of you enjoy those powers sets I can see it being worth 40 bucks to you and thats fine, but for me since I am not interested in the new power sets all thats left at this point is 1-20 content and to me that is not worth 40 bucks but it doesnt matter since it is 9 bucks that is a great deal for 1-20 content and future but unlike some of you I plan on going to other mmorpgs later maybe dc universe or star wars.
I do not even know if I will enjoy this mmo after a month anyways but for some reason you all insist on being jerks to me about my own opinion of what the expansion is worth, enough is enough back off ok?
And on the note about having to wait I never said I would not wait I said I need an online game to play, I will get bored only playing some of my single player games, so I was trying to find an alternative I never demanded it I asked nicely but you just threw it in my face like the jerks you are.
The correct meaning is I did not want to wait good god.
Yeah what kind of community goes out of its way to show someone where they can get a new expansion on sale for half price and less. That's not the type of behaviour that will endear new/returning players to the game. -
Quote:No one is being punished. Holding off on a special event that they usually only throw out when theres a lull between events and issues or as a perk to a reactivation weekend isn't a punishment.Originally Posted by Lothic
Who are the Devs actually punishing with this moratorium on the Double XP weekends?
We've had a busy year that's kept most of us excited.
1. Free transfers at the end of the Winter Event in January.
2. Then the Spring Event.
3. Then Issue 17 and Ultra-Mode.
4. Then the Going Rogue Pre-Purchase with early access to two new power sets.
5. Then Issue 18 and Going Rogue itself with more free transfers.
6. Then the Halloween Event.
7. Soon to be released I19.
8. Shortly after that the next Winter Event.
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I'd say we all want the show to succeed. If we didn't care about it we would be getting frustrated and complaining about how things are being done. The show should be more popular because it started with a built in fanbase.