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Originally Posted by Strike_Hawk

...and what are you using to do it. I have been looking for a thread showing exactly what it takes to run Ultra Mode at max settings and keep a decent frame rate.

Lets say for the sake of the thread decent frame rate is minimum above 30 fps.

So tell us if you have it maxed, and what your build includes (GPU, CPU, RAM, MOBO)
Thanks.

Originally Posted by panthera

I think some hardware is overheating - most likely the GPU.

First, check that the fans are running.
If so try monitor the temperature of the GPU.

Originally Posted by FreckledAvenger

So you're already passing judgment on the permanent solution that hasn't been implemented yet? That's...well, that's about par for the course, actually.

I hope i17 goes open beta this week, just because it will probably bring a bit more variety into these death-spiral threads. I will need to get more popcorn, though...

Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg

I would do the opposite but judging by the content in this post you would probably not read it this time either.



It limited the farming that was abusing the exploits that were plugged by the patch. I'd even say that it stopped that kind of abuse completely. The normal kind of farming isn't affected, and wasn't targeted by the patch.

Originally Posted by xhris

I can't resist rolling an Earth troller anymore, especially now with the awesome crystal customization option. The thing is, I don't really know what to pair it with. I already have a /rad and I was thinking /kin for concept mostly. However, feel free to suggest everything.

Originally Posted by theheat

and I meant the rate that purples drop is too low, not too high.

Originally Posted by Horusaurus

I agree. It's not like the devs are living people who are spending a lot of time coding, making updates, patches, upgrades, etc. Who are they to not catch everything from the get-go? *cracks whip* MOAR UPDATES! SLEEP LATER!

Originally Posted by Zubenelgenubi

The devs do not agree with your definition of the word "exploit."

Originally Posted by TonyV

Count me in the camp of people who love all the drama after a nerf, who hate exploits, who are giddy that they rolled this change out, who also play AE missions mainly for the story and not the rewards, and who are generally happy with the changes and progress that the developers make.

Will this be the final action taken to resolve the exploits? Probably not, they'll likely go back and change what an "ally" is to not include hostages and such. But it's pretty brain-dead to assert, like I see a lot of people doing here, that it's better to leave an open exploit than to patch it. Duh.

And contrary to all the ZOMG, DOOOOOM!-criers here, this is but a blip on the radar of the vast majority of players, if even that. Of all the things that you imagine will destroy the game (or even the AE, for that matter), this is really low on the totem pole of reality. In a nutshell, if you're going to swear off AE because it's not as farmable as it was, good riddance. I don't want you playing my arcs anyway, because I assure you that you wouldn't like them (I have to read!!?), and you'd probably just one-star them.

Originally Posted by FreckledAvenger

As far as I remember, the "Epic" title refers to the independent storyline, not the powers of the character.

And Peacebringers and Warshades play completely differently! PBs are steadier but slower-leveling, completely self-contained, they feel blapper-y in human form. Warshades have high highs and lower lows, they're dependent on enemies around them to up their output, and feel more scraptroller-y in human form.

And I don't even know what to tell you about the VEATS. If you think a Widow or Bane Spider is "garbage"? I really don't know where your criteria are. I have one of each, and they're monstrously awesome.

Originally Posted by Venture

I very much doubt that you have.

Consider: a lawman in a remote community is faced with a band of killers. All the supposed upstanding members of the community turn their backs on him. Even his deputy won't help. Undeterred, the lawman keeps to his duty and faces the killers alone. Quick, does this story take place in Hadleyville, New Mexico or the moons of Jupiter?

Ever notice how Shakespeare's plays are usually transplanted to other settings and times? Orson Welles, working with WPA actors (i.e. people who weren't really actors and had no experience) put on a production of Macbeth set in Hati, with voodoo and mambos. It was hailed as a triumph.

If you've got an actual story (doesn't have to rival Doestoyevsky, just something with an actual theme), as opposed to a mere narrative of events, then you can set that story anywhere with any characters. If the whole thing is going to fall down if you can't use a particular AV, there was nothing there to begin with.

Originally Posted by Psyte

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only person who doesn't necessarily care how much XP my arcs provide?

Originally Posted by HelinCarnate

It is not fun for groups to have to rely on their own skills and powers to finish a story? What game are you playing?

Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare

I don't think the Devs care about your 'fun'. That's not what it boils down to when you look at it from their perspective.

For many players (not most or all); the game ends at the first 50 or the next few 50s thereafter... and so does their subscription. Players blazing to get nowhere have their fast fun and then many say meh and take their money with them.

I'm sure there are those players that stick around after their umpteenth 50 but it's probably not the majority of the playerbase and hence; not the majority of the money.

Originally Posted by HelinCarnate

So you expect to be able to get full XP when you are at a lower risk by having multiple buff bots follow you around? Even if you only have 3 allies you are still at lower risk and should get lower XP due to that.

Originally Posted by Kreeyith

Why does everyone keep talking about "instant level 50s," "1-50 in a few hours" and the like? In the jelly bean and weenie farms - the ones which instigated this patch - it took hours to get into the early twenties. And that's assuming you didn't have a bunch of AFKers and everyone had enough powers to string together an attack chain. It was still fast leveling, but nowhere near the exaggerated claims I've heard in this thread. All AE has done is made PLing available to the masses instead of restricting it to those with the cash and/or connections to doorsit their way to 50 in PI. Which is funny to me, because in the current AE farm paradigm team members get kicked if they're not playing. Also, let me say that given the... idiosyncratic behavior of ally AI in this game, there is plenty of risk in counting on them to follow you and keep you buffed. Trust me, there's plenty death to be had in a jelly bean farm, especially if you add minions to the GM spawns...

As someone who's been around since the dumpster + Burn combo, I have to say that this conflict doesn't seem any closer to ending now than it was when I started playing. Perhaps it would be better to assess why so many people want to PL in the first place? We can argue about it all we want on the forums, but at the end of the day the actions of the player base speak for themselves. For me personally, I'm another one of those players who levels many characters normally, and PLs others. Some builds are fun from level one, and others are late bloomers; it's just that I've been playing long enough that I don't get any enjoyment from slogging through a late bloomer, and if the means are available I'll gladly skip to the good part. For me this usually starts at level 22 (3-slotted Stamina + IOs), although I have on occasion PLed myself to the mid 30s for a particularly weak character.

I also used to PL folks for free back before they started making AE farms where lowbies could PL themselves; it was often fun just to hang out and chat with folks, something that almost never happens on a regular team. Although to be fair sometimes people would get bored and start squabbling with each other, and then I'd get a headache and have to stop playing for a day or two. But I have to hand it to the devs, it was pure genius to improve the mission difficulty system so we didn't need lowbies to pad spawn sizes anymore. Yet here we are arguing about farms again, leading me to conclude that clever quality of life upgrades are not going to end this back-and-forth. The only solution I can think of is to somehow enrich the leveling process itself, so that even someone who wishes they could PL straight to 50 would say “No, no... if I were to suddenly hit 50, I'd miss out on X, and that would SUCK so badly!” But as long as the value of X is “a whole ton of warehouse missions” then we can expect PLing to continue.

Originally Posted by D4nnYb0Y

I didn't bother to read the Farmer's Manifesto, but if I had to hazard a guess I'd say it was alluding to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_manifesto