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2. didn't like that they had to build their character differently. (Dual builds added - check)

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Dual builds are good but it means 2xtimes much IOs to spend on my toon to make it work in pvp and pve(and yes i want IOed toons to run TFs sry :P)...in i12 i still could have buffs on my pvp toon and do great in TFs, just example fire/em blasters. Fire ball was great in both pvp and pve now it is junk. Thanks.

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4. didn't like that their Superman clone could die in half a second. (Answer for that: Slow down the game, as the devs are trying to)

[/ QUOTE ] yeah now they don't die at all unless you drain them to 0 or have 10 ppl attacking them...is THIS balance??????

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6. might've even been turned off by the people they met while PvP'ing. (Very true, but quite possible that some of those people have since left)

[/ QUOTE ] trust me i see lotsa noobs in pvp now with bigger mouth than hardcore pvp'ers ever had. GG.

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7. didnt like how seemingly unbalanced it was between ATs. (still lingering issues here)

[/ QUOTE ] i13 didn't fix it and won't ever then why waste program space anyway?

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8. didnt like how you had to tailor your toon around pvp, and not pvp around your toon. (read: carbon copy characters w/acro, 2+ travel powers, etc - seems to have been replaced w/hibernate, PS, etc)

[/ QUOTE ] yah well if everyone could remake pvp into what they want we would get broken i13 every day in different way... flying invul/ss tankers RPing superman cried a lot about pvp enviroment here we go now...try to kill one in zone solo...

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9. didnt like the hit-and-run tactics. (travel suppression - check)

[/ QUOTE ] kk then explain me WHY IN THE WORLD DO I GET SUPRESSED BY CASTING ICE SHIELDS ON MY TEAMMATE????????????????? WHERE IS HERE HIT AND RUN????
i could only say LEARN2WEBNADE.

So from all this i don't see how game mechanics for pvp got better in generally or fixed anything (all this arena options, rewards and fluff don't count they could be added to old pvp too w/o breaking anything :P)

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EnD:
Did I say the majority of people like the changes?

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you said that there are more players in pvp now..i would assume from this comment that ppl like new pvp otherelse why would they try to hard to pvp...according to you..sry i have to LOL here.

*goes to look for any cheese bucket threads to find posi*

i tried with my broken english kk?

guys...let's all go to virtrue and make catgirls... and invade AP and PD for 1 hour maybe ^_^ (last time i did it some ppl quit thought >_< )

Just quoting someone from ac today: changes were what everyone wanted but not in the way anyone would want.

All i see is that most people on this threads hate new pvp, same for Freedom. I don't understand WHERE IS this majority that suppose to love changes???????? LOL Liberty because 7th said so?

so -inheret res button or i12 button?

get wrecked

Somebody from Liberty just told me they had more players in RV pre i13....<_<

wow 8???? and you try so hard to tell us that pvp is better now and brought more ppl?

besides i am female thanks

yes they were..i personaly moved from protector..pre i13 RV was full on my home server in good times...now i find 4 ppl farming pill boxes in best times...hell yeah
besides most pvpers i meet on freedom now are all from other servers telling me how dead pvp is there...and even freedom tends to have "dead" hours...

to numbers:

population in RV on servers:
Freedom: some?
Justice: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Pinnacle: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Virtue: some
Liberty: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Guardian: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Infinity: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Protector: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Victory: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Champion: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)
Triumph: none (moved to Virtrue/Freedom)

yes we have more PvPers now! (sarcasm on)

Well everyone loves pvp now..where is this "everyone"..? Even new players i know can't understand why it is so retarded. Oh yah we got 7th and yeah that certain invul tanker that hugs drones and don't forget karakatoe joe from RV....um list is over?

OMG guys red name on pvp threads...am i dreaming?

we knew it gonna happen since vert left....and i think rpvp gonna fall appart soon too...

LOL

will be hard to find team that is good at all lvs lol

does it work? o.o

you mean wanna be amusing ^_^?

I am actually amazed how hyper alloric can be...we need higher supression numbers for him....

So team have to be set or you will be teamed with random players?

not my faul alloric started it...

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They should hire macskull to fill the PvP Dev position.

macskull
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QFT
/e cheer

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idk i am not pregnant o.o
ask devs they know better prolly...

does this team even exist anymore...they either play wow, got banned or left heh

arena temps allowed?

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omg your GF called you and said she was pregnant - SUPRESSED!
fun? no

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You are?!

Oh, [censored].

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are YOU? wait a sec...