DEMOPHON

I wish to submit my Kat/SR Sakura Flash

What is the animation time on thousand swipes/cuts? I am a lil nevrous. The animation times for the first 3 attacks aren't bad on time and are imo perfect for a scrapper. But i do worry about the last power.

Would it be cooler for it to be a flash of light, kinda of a burst and that was the thousand cuts.
vs.
3 min animation of swining your sword :P

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Awesome. When are you doing it again? And where do I sign up for the Stalker position again? I'll even be the puller. And bring Shivans. And cookies.

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WHAT!! you gets no stalker position, MEH stalker!
Put on a shirt Trick!

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No, you should never combine a HO. EVER!! I have seen too many bad things happen to those that do.



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Yeah i knew guy who knew a guy who did that, Boom ten years later his wife left hmmm.

*Derived from family guy, and editied for a less disgusting read*

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Grrr as a stalker i hate the idea of having to team in RV

[/ QUOTE ] Yeah..imagine how the heroes feel in BB, SC, and Warburg.

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You so took a piece of my sentence and turned it into a cheap one upper. after RV was a comma and this is the important part "but i guess it wont be a problem" because in highly active PvP zones like SC for one finding a team even as a stalker is an option. So when RV is crashing from the amount of 50's in the zone finding a team will be an easy task.

Grrr as a stalker i hate the idea of having to team in RV, but when the zone opens i am sure it wont be a problem. Stalkers are resourceful and will find a way to solo a ceratin combinations of power or a AT/AT type that will rise in RV and be FoTM. Like lets say IH stalker or mandatory powers for soloing i think of Nin as skipping those not so great PPP options taking caltrops, blinding powder, smoke flash along with common placate should get the job done just not as sneaky as i would like.

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4 dmg So's 1 recharge DO and 1 Recharge DO equals frequent medical
visits for defenders and controllers.


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Once you get SO's as I, and many others alluded to earlier, here and in
other threads, 1-shot of squishies is possible then...

However, *try* it with only DO's...

Further, without Acc's in AS, you'll whiff a LOT against players with
defense powers and buffs.

My L20 Stalker has DO's (and blessed few of them, at that). I can
absolutely promise you that if I *was* assured of a 1-shot kill using just
BU + AS, I most definitely would NOT be spending infamy on
inspirations *every* kill (or missed opportunity - when the insps were
totally wasted) as I currently need to do now.

That said, I'm fine with that being the case -- I *know* how frustrating it
is to be 1-shotted, and I think the amount of time and resources it takes
to achieve it is fair, even if the 'victim' doesn't see, understand, or care
about that side of it... Not surprisingly, they only care about their death,
which, because it was *quick* also seems to equate to *easy* for us to
do, in their minds... Put simply, that is a mistaken (but understandable)
perception.


Regards,
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correction i meant 4 dmg SO's and 1 recharge and 1 acc Do and just a view from the other side, i just got finished playing my regen scrapper and i could scream till my eyes popped out at just how powerful i am in that game compared to my stalker my kills drop to like 3 if i am lucky but how many times i die is up to me if i choose to fight till the last punch instead of retreating and healing i die...but that is my choice.

Wasn't exactly sure where to post this question/comment so here we go.. i have read on more than one post from a stalker in their attempt to defend themselves say that stalkers can not one shot kill heroes without the use of inspirations along with BU and to go as far as calling victims and the perps as liars. Now it depends on what defense powers they have but i haven't meet a squishe i haven't killed in one hit except blasters. so just to put this out their for all stalkers and non stalkers

4 dmg So's 1 recharge DO and 1 Recharge DO equals frequent medical visits for defenders and controllers.
I do have a question i have noticed that even if the cont/defender has their big bubble on the same BU+AS kills them anyway...i thought it would add some defense anyone know?
Skorna
victory

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Believe me,your experiences to date are only because you must be new to PVP. ANyone who has been out there fighting has already nerfed the one trick pony that are stalkers....

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Sorry, but that can also be easily rewritten as:
You must be new to PvP in CoV. Everyone else who has experience has realized that to PvP you must design your characters so that they can fight Stalkers.

In my opinion, when one AT is forcing the other ATs to either set up their power choices so that they can handle the one AT, or else to avoid PvP, something is broken.

You say that there are methods to deal with Stalkers? Fine. I disagree with the contention that these methods are great, but certainly there are methods that make you a relatively difficult target.

My problem is that we have to redesign characters for these methods. We do not have to redesign to deal with Tanks, or Brutes, or Scrappers, or Dominators, or Controllers. But we do have to redesign to deal with Stalkers. And by "deal", I do mean "to not be an easy one-shot kill". Not necessarily to defeat. You can redesign all you want, if a Stalker wants to get away, they will get away. But at least you can redesign to survive.

That's broken. When Controllers were in a situation where other ATs would have had to redesign in order to avoid being perma-held until death, the problem was solved by the Devs.
...Break Frees
...Suppression

Where is the Dev solution to the Stalkers? There isn't one. The only solutions are player-made, and that means that in order to survive in PvP, you need to design your character and/or your teams so that you can survive Stalkers. Doing anything less is just invitation to being repeatedly one-shotted until you give in and either redesign, or give up PvP.

There is something broken in Denmark. And it's rotting.

The purpose, design, and goal of the AT is bad. The AT is designed around one-shotting opponents, around avoiding opponents when they want to avoid them. That design is completely broken in PvP. So either it's allowed to continue according to design (which is unfair to the other ATs), or it's prevented from continuing according to design, which is unfair to Stalkers. When a design is set up so that it's either unfair to the AT or to the other ATs, something was designed wrongly.

IMO, Stalkers need their concept re-examined. Invisible one-shotting character is not a concept that works in a PvP game.

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You use suppresion and breakfrees as the answer the devs gave for stoping perma holds in PvP and that nothing has been done to answer the stalker.

have u not been reading the posts powers that some heroes have that can see threw Hide like preception powers, any AoE that is a toggle insights, lucks clear mind from defenders...etc

At lvl 24 if i have the AS 6 slotted to kill you in one hit chances are my defenses have been neglected...don't know another AT that can get pwnd by a solo controller.

-Skorna
victory

OK just killed a scrapper with 3 reds and 2 insights with BU while he was surronded buy heroes i mean like 4-6 killed him burnt off..(100rep) i wanted it to be special someone called me cheap for doing that..just an example that people have diff views of what they think is fair so can't accomadate all..

should i have stayed at gotten my bottom handed to me by the mob of heroes?
should i have requested a duel with the scrapper?

what will please everyone

Skorna
victory

I have a lvl 25 stalker with 4So's and 1 rechare and 1 acc. Now with that many so's the rest are TO or like 10 lvls low(man i need infamy) I can drop controllers and defenders one hit with BU and have to hit the blaster one more time to finish the job so my kills per night skyrockected not unusally to get 30 kills in a sitting...like 4-5 hours especaily since i picked hover for pVp reasons, since alot of heroes think they are safe in the Air.

Now on the other hand i went to sirens call and had my behind handed to me 3 times by the same controller and killed by NPC's as i ran, dont plan on going back not worth the debt.

-Skorna
Victory

also i know the NERF to end all NERFs' is coming that will make me question my intrest in the game so i am enjoying it as much as possible now.

so to my fellow stalkers i say "one shot kills for all and for the rest shut up and respawn.:P
-skorna
victory

YES I must admit i had so much fun one shotting heroes in the first week or so in the game, my stalker is what i wanted my rouge to be..but the rouge was just no real fun. Teams and players anyone in PvP zones know to never stop moving or have a repel on or tacks on the ground it makes my job very frustrating. I find my self haveing to wait to chase a fleeing (weakened) hero to AS them while they heal or jumping from roof top to roof top for hours hoping to catch one just enjoying the sites. only place i can consistently find heroes to kill is in there base and the possible debt from NPC is not worth it most of the time.

In short if weaking AS will "balance" the AT then they might as well be scrappers, but then there defense and attacks need to be increased.

-Skorna
victory