Coyote_Seven

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  1. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SinisterDirge View Post
    Not sure what is more acurately labeled as dogma, people explaing how the market works, people with no idea how it works, but are willing to label as evil, or people that know how it works and try to imagine how evil it is for others.
    Huh. Now where did I say that their advice doesn't work?

    Oh yeah... I didn't.

    I just meant that there's other ways to make money in this game, ranging from awesome to decent. Ways that seem to rub certain goats the wrong way. *shrug*
  2. Intead of releasing yet another Madden game that you have to pay 50 bucks for each and every year, they should switch to an online subscription based model. Don't you think?

    Kind of like a football MMO. Hmm...
  3. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

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    Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow View Post
    I am sure that many of you disagree with this and that’s perfectly fine. All I am suggesting is that if people don’t understand how the market works, things like this make it much harder to do so.
    It's too late to try and explain things now. You've trampled all over their dogma so the haters are gonna hate. All the goat is gonna do is continue to bray at you very loudly about how stupid he thinks you are. It's the one thing he's really good at.
  4. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Misaligned View Post
    Video game here. Not real life. Thanks!
    You think the rest of us are imaginary?
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blunt_Trauma View Post
    For extra fun, get lucky enough to spawn a Nictus crystal to along with the rampaging DE.
    Perhaps a team of seven Thug/Dark MasterMinds, and one Warshade?

    All the MMs activate Gang War...

    It's server crashing time!
  6. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Oh yeah? Well... my icon is better than yours!
  7. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Misaligned View Post
    I wasn't playing at that time. The truth is universal though. People have seriously confused want with need. Entitlement is what the problem is, not marketeers or casual players or Bob, the guy who only logs in for 2 minutes a year.
    In light of your first sentence, I'll modify my original statement: Now I know how you would have stood on those two issues back when they were hot.

    Your second sentence makes no sense. No truth is universal; you're confusing it with fact.

    Regarding your third sentence, I think you are doing the same thing. What is wanted and what is needed are usually intertwined. If you want something, then you usually need to do or get something in order to attain it.

    And that leads me to your final sentence. And now I'm rather convinced that you've been in the trenches of working retail for far too long, haha! You're making a far to gross of a generalization if you think that all players complaining about the price of common salvage on this game's market are suffering from delusions of self-importance!

    Just for sake of argument, what if this overpricing of common salvage on the market has caused something of a negative reputation on the game as a whole, and thus deterred a large number of people who might have otherwise maintained a subscription to the game? I'm not saying that's so, but then again I have no idea what other people say about this game on other boards. For all I know, the problems with the market are small compared to, say, the problems with PvP. Then again, maybe somewhere there are people who talk about the "crazy prices" on the "crazy market" and how that was the straw that broke the camel's back for them.

    I do sometimes wonder about that. It might be part of the reason why the devs have worked in ways to get things in the game in many different ways.
  8. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Misaligned View Post
    At what point do you need anything from a game. You want. Want =/= need. I want world peace and a Snicker's Bar. Provide it now at a reasonable cost. That reasonable cost will be an amount to be determined after I get what I want. It will most likely be less than what the actual cost was, but that's irrelevant. I want it - go get it for me... now!
    Now I know what side you took during the whole ED and GDN debacles!
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
    Rikti Earth --Invasion--> Primal Earth<--Invasion--Praetorian Earth

    Rikti Earth <--No Invasion-->Praetorian Earth

    Rikti, Primal and Praetorian Earth are all seperate dimensions. In theory, it would be possible for the Rikti to also invade Praetoria, or vice versa. However, it hasn't happened.

    Hoever;

    Infernal Earth--Infernal-->Primal Earth --No Infernal--> Praetorian Earth
    You have to learn to think five dimensionally.
  10. 888,777,666

    Oops, now I've outed myself!
  11. Why is anyone assuming that there has to be only one dimension where demons come from? Or Rikti?

    There's likely hundreds, if not thousands of parallel Earths where a demon named Infernal was accidentally transported there and then helped by a super named Numina. Each incident was likely slightly different in some small way. Those differences get progressively bigger until you get the situation that happened on Praetorian Earth. It's like a spectrum, going from red to blue, by tiny increments.
  12. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

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    Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow View Post
    But apparently perception is blah, blah, blah so what people "know" doesn't matter anyway.
    It sounded more to me like he was saying, "I don't care about anyone else's perceptions and if they don't agree with mine then they are stupid!"

    But then again, that's just my perception.
  13. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Misaligned View Post
    Blah blah blah perception is irrelevant. People will always believe that someone is screwing them until they get it for free. At which point they will believe that someone is screwing them because they should have had it for free... earlier.
    I see that you've worked in retail.
  14. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

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    Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
    I did my year and a half. It's your turn.
    Just to spite you, I leave my bids up for 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds before I take them down and declare that no one is selling at that price!
  15. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow View Post
    This isn't true (for the most part) but if most players believe that "the prices are insane" and "Marketeers control the prices" and "It's not worth the RL time to learn" then the truth is irrelevent.
    Never confuse truth with fact. Truth is always relative, but the facts are objective.

    The problem is that no one ever has all of the facts. In the absence of such data or empirical evidence, people are prone to filling in the gaps based on their own beliefs.

    You see so many Non-Maskable-Interrupts for sale, but you have no idea what the asking prices on any of them are. You see so many bids for them, but you don't know what prices those bidders are asking. You also see that just recently a whole bunch of them sold for an incredibly outrageous price.

    The conclusion you come to with only those three bits of information will be largely based on your experience, intuition and beliefs. Obviously, anyone who thinks the market is too unfair and too complex will have those beliefs reinforced; they'll remember that and similar events in a long list of evidence that the market is broken and needs to be fix because of "rampant and runaway prices".

    This is kind of why anecdotal evidence is unreliable, but it's also why so many people swear by their own experiences while at the same time dismissing others' differing experiences.
  16. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

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    Originally Posted by DevilYouKnow View Post
    How in the world do you suppose casual players get the notion that if they just hold out they will get 3 million for NMI?
    I keep reading 'NMI' as "Non Maskable Interrupt". :P
  17. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Misaligned View Post
    People pissing and moaning about 2 minutes or even 1 day for something that is SO accessible in this game is really starting to piss me off.
    Just an observation, mind you, but it sounds like you have no problems waiting at long traffic lights.
  18. Coyote_Seven

    Pricing oddity

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by heffroncm View Post
    Probably the Perception bit. People HATE HATE HATE getting Blinded. At least, everyone I run with does.
    I have this set on my WP/DB Tank. That little proc is what pushes her perception to the hard cap. It's pretty neat.
  19. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    Oh dear, now you've gone and upset them. The natives will be restless!
  20. Coyote_Seven

    neverselling ice

    For what it's worth, I only ever sell my common salvage drops at 1 inf.

    Actually, I also sell my uncommon salvage drops for 1 inf.

    Well, I do that with my rare salvage drops, too. There's just not that much money in trying to flip salvage, period.

    Unless it's Alchemical Silver... >.>
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steampunkette View Post
    Like how she takes a single line out of a large post with various points and paragraphs of explanation, then tosses off a "Cutesy" one-liner with an infuriating smiley face at the end to show her superiority complex?
    Just like a certain Mister Phelps! You'll have to guess which one.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Praetoria is the opposite of civilized - that's why it's being invaded.
    Declare them uncivilized, and then invade them and claim their lands in the name of your God and Country.

    Gee, where have I heard that before?

    Meet the new boss.

    Same as the old boss.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    It'd be morally wrong to allow them to continue with a dictatorship.
    So what have you done today to remove Kim Jong-il from power?
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steampunkette View Post
    Love and Compassion

    Love and Compassion

    Love and Compassion

    Love and Compassion

    Yeah. Pretty basic stuff, there. All that Compassion for their fellow man and all.

    -Rachel-
    Oh, in this case I think we'd do better with a few American examples.

    "Love and compassion" indeed. Historically, people preaching such things tend not to get the wrong kind of attention.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fried Radicals View Post
    If faced with a choice between life and death, people will choose life. It's called self preservation and the system in Praetoria is such that self preservation is quite the hot topic. Whether you're on the dark side or the light (you figure out which is which. I can't tell a difference really) the struggle to stay alive is the main driver.
    Basically it's a choice between living in a Lawful Evil empire, or face certain death at the hands of giant monster mutant things. I guess that's not much of a choice.