Chyll

Oh, absolutely!

I just disagree that it is funny to cause actual misfortune, and then laugh.

Inane humor at another's direct expense is inane, and lacks the funny.

Without digging into the numbers... yeah, I believe it.

I've generally felt that Dominators play like Blasters with holds. Probably why they've always been so comfortable, after my first/main Ice/Ice Blaster.

You have to break down the entire picture, like is always done to computer DPS and attack chains. It isn't anything different, than normal discussions of that ilk, IMO.

DPS at range: Blasters rule. No one can out damage a blaster in it's natural element.That is all I'm saying. And, by the definition and the design intent of Blasters they are successful as is.



Now, a different, and larger, question is which AT should do the most damage period? A standard DPS chain with no range limitations. Some would say Blasters, others Brutes, some Scrappers, and even some fringe fanatics that say it should be Tankers. I'd say that is more of a philosophical discussion, and the game as implemented seems to indicate where the Devs fall in that spectrum of expectations.

Take any target, maintain a range beyond any melee power.

Can the average scrapper take the target down faster than the average blaster? Keeping in my that a blaster will not have to wait on any recharge (more power choices), and their higher tier powers will do more base damage.

True, but melee ATs have how many ranged powers?

Khelds... are difficult to fit in the mix due to the special nature of HEATs, but understood.

I'd still say Blasters are in a solid position.

The OP discussion, and the quoted portion I was refering to was damage scale of the AT with the Ranged Damage type. No other AT comes anywhere close to the damage scale blasters have with Ranged Damage.

The 'limited' range (in distance) of one blast set does not change the Blasters' undeniable position by the numbers of King of Ranged Damage across the board.

1. Range has nothing to do with damage modifiers.
2. And, while I do not know the answer to that specific question, one blast set would not change the overall position of the entire AT

Zero change. No one else at range is even at 1%. Blasters are by far the king of range unquestionable, as designed.

I am not certain... he may not operate like a tank, but that doesn't mean he isn't one.

Not only, but he is a big one, and you have to plan around that when you have him/his team right away.

Debatable. His very invulnerability - at the core of his description - seems pretty defensive. So much so that he doesn't have to be defensive minded.


This may be the nature of his attacks as much as anything. In some ways like the Vorpal Judgement, that it is directional, and it requires that he "GO". Spring attack, shield charge, etc. come to mind. These are AT defined.

And charging ahead doesn't mean you aren't tanking. In fact, steam roll teaming with a lead tank fits that too.

Not so much. I could go either way.

I can easily conceptualize different ways a tank can achieve the in game mechanics of aggro control.


(And I'm skipping response to your normal tank don't do damage drum beat.)

Nope, not trolling.
I have been playing since I7 and my first character/first 50/main is an Ice/Ice blaster. I have multiple other blasters in the stable, including other 50s and more at all level ranges.

Obviously I have no no pre-ED experience, but the game changed for every AT:Tanks can't aggro the universe, etc. etc. As a result, I believe it is a poor benchmark and will move on.

Pre-Defiance changes, I leveled blasters to 50. Mez on a blaster sucked. Hard. I could never carry enough Break Frees. Post-defiance changes, I rarely pay any attention to mez. It is the only AT that can act within a mez - with its highest charging attacks at range, no less. On teams, I will often keep blasting away and just wait out it (unless things are hairy for everyone beyond little old partially mezzed me). Solo, sometimes I'll still ignore the break free. There are few ATs where I pay less attention to mez. It is a trivial issue.

Yep, and those changes were huge, and still fantastic. Any additional changes seem superfluous and unnecessary to me.
Minor issues, IMO. Issues such that I just can't understand the seeming volume of calls for them. Hence my stance.

I think you are commenting on the fact that:
I think glow is turned on for some and off for others as an example, but I could be reading/seeing it wrong.

Ah, thank you, now I understand.

I keep seeing this phrase being thrown around, and frankly I have no idea what it means or where it came from.

The game hasn't significantly changed....

What is is this 'modern' myth?

EDIT: There is no need to reply to this particular post.
Yes, since the game's introduction it has changed. The question was more why 'suddenly' there is the 'modern game' label. All this has been discussed, and I have moved away from needing it answered.

Just for clarification - what are you asking for different than what they are providing?

That is some backwards logic.

How does that stack up to someone who has to aggressively tout how tankers must be broken and defend against why everyone else must be wrong?

I'll consider you my one person succesfully confused for the day and look forward to planning tomorrow.

(Sorry for not being clear. Hopeling correctly interpreted what I meant.)

The +res proc fires periodically as you use the power - providing a rech bonus (rarely bad) and +resist all benefit that will stack. It has been excellent to have in my SR/ tank, and in some light testing on a Elec/ (hence why I'm not positive of Invul/ benefit).

That aside, set bonuses the tanker AO provides - +dmg, +health, +rech, and some resistances, off the top of my head. The benefit here, however, is these work like purples - so carry with you if you respc downward. (And they are still cheaper than most Purples atm.)

The tanker set only will go in attacks, and the mechanic is fairly unique in the way the proc fires. At a guess, hurl or foot stomp wouldn't be horrible. Maybe Knockout Blow (I would totally check with someone else first). That aside, you would have to compare existing set bonuses to those the tanker AO providesto decide what makes sense.

Catalysts are a new salvage mechanic, probably nothing to worry about at present, but essentially you can turn a basic AO into a "Superior" version - converting your enh from one set to another with different values and new set bonuses - fully on par to purple values.

Yeah, I should have been more specific in my comment. I meant, given your noted spoilers, I do not remember anyone being placed in a position to similarly present the dynamic for opposing views as we are getting now on the show (with the foursome)... maybe in DC some...

Anyway, it is certainly taking advantage of the new dynamic presented by Shane's TV longevity.