ChristopherRobin
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I was lucky in that I had exceptional art teachers (it was just family and friends that *epic failed*
at supporting my artz
) but I did have some insanely strict teachers in other fields so I can relate.
I actually can see merit to both sides of this.
Speaking from only my point of view I would say in Caemgen's case it sounds like a problem of definition.
I feel a "good" teacher (of any subject) clearly and accurately defines what they expect of students
- i.e. your next assignment will be a project involving lots of shading... shading is NOT is not pointillism,
it is NOT crosshatching etc etc it IS this... and so on. Then if you turned in your piece he would be
justified in docking you as while your piece may have been good it was not what he had asked for.
If he did not clearly tell what was and what was not allowed then I would've (were I in your shoes)
fought him on it and got the grade reversed as pointillism can indeed produce various levels of
shade and so can be called a shading technique.
Were I in Larissa's place (well minus the ice bikini
) I would've pulled him aside after class and asked him
for his side of it and why he was so against it... if his answer satisfied me that there was good reason
for his position I would (perhaps grudgingly) go along with it... if it didn't satisfy me and I thought he
was just being a jerk for no reason I would turn in one piece done his way to prove I could correctly
render what he asked for... and then every other piece I would've used smudging lol.
I openly challenged many of my teachers and changed several of their minds and likewise had my mind
changed many times too (as it should be when learning)... plus I was all like rebellious and stuffz back then.
Sidenote: Being a hard case about teaching tends to work better, I think, with strictly defined
subjects like math where 2+2 is always (until you get to the extreme levels of applied math anyway)
going to equal 4 so it's ok to be be stubborn and deduct from anyone who comes up with an answer
of 5 or even someone who takes a shortcut... even when they arrive at the correct answer of 4.
I had a teacher like this that I did NOT agree with at the time (mainly because I didn't enjoy math
and wanted the quickest right answer possible) but once he convinced me of the wisdom in his approach
though, he wanted me to learn to do it the long way first to have a solid foundation and understand
the original process before jumping to the shortcuts, then I was ok with his method.
To that point there should be more math teachers like him as too many people nowadays can't do
long math and have forgotten what few quickie "shortcuts" they knew so they just rely on a calculator...
take away their calculator and they are at a total loss as to how they should solve a given problem.
So while I see merit to both sides, when it comes to art, yes a solid foundation is key but a variety
and range of techniques should be allowed... because I think, whatever the particular skill you are
trying to teach may be, ultimately the goal is to encourage creativity and not stifle it.
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Cool. Gratz on the first of many (hey this gets addicting) commissions Galadiman.
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Very cool wallpapers you got there Soulstorm. I like the poses and fx for both...
Des's makes me think of the Titantron image of Y2J a bit lol.
Tyrant would be nice... but what about Ms. Liberty (or her praetorian counterpart)?
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Was thinking there should be a thread for this. Kudos TA for making it happen.
You may wish to add Bobby's (aka Lady Justice) "I need a new TV" sale
and Nojitsu's "I just lost my job sale"
to this thread as well. Both are very talented and deserving peeps yo.
Note: Check with bobby first as he may be taking a brief respite from his artz.
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What a cool idea IB. 3 things quick...
Juggy saying be very "quit" should read very "quiet"
"goto" should be "go to"
Juggy's speech box shouldn't be a collidable object when triggered.
I went to go hunt... and kill skullz.
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Quote:Thanks Starwind.Originally Posted by Starwind
Fantastic job CR! Can't wait to see it finished. She "will" keep it forever!
Well you will see it as close to being done as it is, soon as I take a better pic
(probably after double XP weekend) and post it up.
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Quote:Heya Pyro thanks for the post... it's probably been a while since you read the through the threadOriginally Posted by Pyro_Nympho
Amazing...nice work. See how the Hot Pencil pays off...makes you appreciate when you can take your time and enjoy drawing! Great job...can't wait to see it finished...and you'd better finish it and give it to her...she'll keep it forever!
(it's pretty huge and stuffz) but if you search it (ctrl+f) for the word portrait you would find the
post above containing this...
The portrait has been "done" for some time now (well it's been "as close to being complete as it is now" for a long whileQuote:Originally Posted by ChristopherRobin
Well most of the stuff I've drawn is from years ago and I've either given it away, sold it or put it in storage (it was all on paper or canvas not digital).
I do however have a few sketches I've done in the last few weeks and one (what I would consider) high quality portrait I did a year or two ago that I guess I could post if people want to see em?
that is... it's only like 90% done) but there was sadly some drama over who would get the finished piece
so I halted progress on it and decided that when she turns 18 I will gift it directly to her... until then it
stays with me rather than either parent or grandparents or other relatives etc.
I'm hoping she does get it framed and it becomes an heirloom to be handed down to future generations
but that's probably wishful thinking on my part.
But to your point yes I have noticed that effect after so many really fast, pencil-never-stops-moving,
sketches I do appreciate slowing down and really digging into the details.
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Quote:Thanks Crestent and speaking of more here is the 2nd part.Originally Posted by Crestent
*Delurks*
Very awesome drawings of your niece, I can't wait to see more.
The hair is obviously not completed yet as well as a few other details
(darkening under the chin, touching up the jawline etc) but there you have it.
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Maybe think about, if you were named Supreme High Commander of the Devs, for a day and could make
anything happen to anyone in the cannon who in the game would you most like to see defeated and why?
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Maaaaaybe.
I mean ummm... I have like no idea what
you are talking about and stuffz.
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Well for those that asked to see my setup here is a shot of the area I used to draw that portrait...
you can see the pen and pencil at the top and a few of the sharpies and highlighters off to the side as well.
Lets see if this gets any other lurkers to drop out of stealth mode and post something.
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Quote:Yeah it's not exactly like the photo and she used to arch her brows inquisitively quite a bitOriginally Posted by Caemgen
Very impressive. Very, very nice...
From the photo's on top alone, her eyebrows in the art seem a bit too arched/peaked but you know the kid so it may just be an expression the photo's don't show. And even if not, a little artistic license is your right, no?
What did you use for the shading in this piece? Especially on the face it is very subtle but very effective... Nice!
when I was around because I tended to make up stories as I went along... she's old
enough now and it's gotten harder to trick her.
As for what I used...
1. a Parker pen,
2. a #2 pencil,
3. and my middle finger...
(no really I did) ...to smear the pencil shading smooth and to emphasize certain areas.
That's it really... a little bit of green highlighter and gold marker for the eyes (and gold
for the earrings too), I know really high tech right?
I really don't have a fancy art setup... no art sticks, no coloring pencils (although I had a pretty good
set at one point... in storage now somewhere collecting dust), no copic markers, or fancy pencil sets
of varied hardness, no canvases or paint, no easel or studio, no wacom tablet or digital art setup
of anykind I was never really trained in any of that stuff (with the exception of high school art classes
and 1 college level life drawing/anatomy class) I'm pretty much just a self taught pencil, pen and
cheap paper kinda guy thusfar (I am making an effort to pick up some digital skillz but it's a heck of a
learning curve with the limited time I have available).
Yeah ok I'm rambling again... not much in the way of pro supplies is what I'm saying, sorry to disappoint lol.
???Quote:Originally Posted by DarkLilac
I haven't played CoH in a good while but I still like browsing my favorite forum here. Free wknd lets me post, too.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that all the drawings in your thread are quite nice and it's a shame you don't have the time you'd like to spend on the art because it looks pretty awesome at this point
A lurker came out of hiding and posted... quick get the net guns!
Thankyou DarkLilac for the kind words, yeah I'm hoping to get more free time and funds down the road
to get a really nice setup and put in more daily practice time. We'll see.
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Quote:See told ya... Swans are kinda medium sized birds right?Originally Posted by Pyro_Nympho
That's right CR...somebody wants to finish what you start! Our very own Eddy Swan, the man that keeps on giving, will color what you Pencil! How's that for AWESOMENESSAUCE AND CHEESE!!!!
Thanks Eddy...you're rockin' my world!
xoxo
Py
...well they're not little anyway.
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This is the first part of a three-in-one portrait I drew of my cousin at ages 8, 9 and 10.
Across the top are the 3 photos I used as reference.
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Quote:That is good too but is disabled by default and needs to be turned on before you can use it.Originally Posted by PowerStream
Or because I like to keep my posts smaller - I use the "Thumbnail" code and then just copy and paste that directly into your post. It becomes a clickable thumbnail. This is for photobucket anyway.
On Photobucket goto the "Share this image" section and at the bottom click the "more >>" button...
from the window that opens click the "get link code" tab and go down and put a check mark in the
box where it says "Clickable Thumbnail" then hit save and you will have that function available.
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Quote:1. Post your images up to a hosting site. http://photobucket.com/ works good.Originally Posted by Hidden Hero
How do you link screenshots of your character? I'm uber new, but would love to enter this contest. Simple, straight forward answers would be greatly appreciated.
2. For every image you post up Photobucket will give you various tags under the "share this image" section like Email, Direct Link, HTML and IMG.
3. If you want just a clickable link copy everything in the "Direct Link" line and paste it into your post. Or if you want the picture to show up here copy/paste the "IMG Code" line.
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That little guy has some talent.
Yeah I wish they had helmets like that in the game heh... and the claws too.
Nice work Powerstream Jr. keep practicing.
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Yo Alex, wassup?
I've been keeping up on DA and your homepage and so have seen most of these
(really liking the heroine swooping in withe the sun at her back and the Champions
demoness with the magic runes) Good to see you posting again even if it's just for the weekend.
Hey you still playing on that Champions account or have you forsaken MMO's altogether?
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Quote:Just peering back throught the thread and I realized I hadn't responded to this,Originally Posted by VexXxa
CR!!! I want your computer!!! That dragon is so freakin KOOL!!!
Yeah it's really sweet looking and it flys through games like nobody's business.
VexXxa if you really do want this computer setup I can still make them for a limited time yet...
the pictured rig cost about $3,300 though (with 30'' Ultra high rez flat panel it was $5k) a year and
a half ago when I built the first one but prices have come down and I can build a similarly powered
machine for much less now. Alternatively you can just buy the case for $200-$250 and have any
system built into it but if you are serious I'd act quick the manufacturer stopped making that particular
case and the few remaining will go up in price considerably very soon I'm sure.
Side note: Though the bone dragon cutaway design comes pre cut by the manufacturer the case
pictured in my link has been further modded by me with increased interior blue lighting, obstructive
grills cut out for better airflow, 80mm fans adapted to 120mm for reduced noise and increase
airflow, dust filters, low noise fans etc. etc.
Also earlier in this thread I was asked to post the portrait I did recently, it's a triple portrait
and i'll post up the first part later today.
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Cool, Nice artz ya got there Jophiel.
So the reticule had to move to the other eye on the farside when he/she (the artist) flipped the image and that's why it looks like a monocle?
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Indeed that is a totally sweet sig bar Caemgen... Pyro I'm constantly impressed with the stuff you come up with.
The Foo's is pretty awesome too lol... hey what is that animation site Foo? -
Cool. Nice job on the logo Pyro.
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Ok that CoT mage was kinda meh, sooo...
Circle of Thorns part two...
------ Hell Spawned -------
New category: Vahzilok
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***Pulls out defibrillator***
CLEAR!!! ThudBZZZT!
beep beep beep... it's alive! Ahem...
For the category of Circle of Thorns I submit:
------ Death Mage --------
New Topic: Freakshow!