Chad Gulzow-Man

*blink* Ultra Mode is coming out in Issue 17, which is in turn coming out in April. Pretty sure it's not getting cancelled unless a meteor strikes the server farm.

... I can't tell if this post is serious. It's either hypocritically demented or satirically brilliant.

He already said he's on the European serverlist in the first post. But nice try. *pat pat*

Um, I'd complain if I were hung with any rope. Those things really limit your ability to intake oxygen.

... Well, I'd try to complain... it would most likely come out as a dry rasp, followed a bit later by a gurgle.

Blade was commenting that he refuses to spend money unless he knows what he's getting, which is a fair and perfectly valid point to make. Some people can't and/or don't want to spend $30 on what could be considered a frivolous purchase.

Given the case presented by him, I was simply stating that, once Going Rogue comes out, he (and everyone else who is interested) will know more or less exactly what's in the expansion, from a meta viewpoint at least. If he doesn't want to spend the money blindly now, there's absolutely no reason he has to. He can wait until July when the expansion is released, and make his decision then.

Technically, nothing NCSoft's marketting is doing now has cost them any sales yet... but it might cost them pre-sales in the very near future. I think it's pretty safe to assume that most of the people continuing their CoH subscriptions will purchase the expansion in one form or another, either soon as a pre-sale or once it's available after launch. Those who don't purchase it will, sadly, probably cancel their accounts soon after. At the same time, some old players will return and new players will join the mix. (But that's pretty much how it goes with every issue that gets released... it'll probably be a little more pronounced in all categories for a paid expansion.)

There will always be consumers who want to know exactly what they're getting before they put down cash, and there will be those who are okay with making an investment based on goodwill, past experience and faith in a company/product. Blade and several others are the former, many others who have posted in this thread and others like it are the latter; there is no "right" group.

... Except marketing. They're pretty much awful, and everyone who thinks they're the devil is right. >_>

So don't preorder it. And if it still doesn't interest you when it releases in July, then just plain don't buy it. No wall of marketing gripes required.

We don't know for sure, but probably this coming week or early the following one.

I saw some people saying March 2nd/3rd in another thread last week, but I haven't seen anything official to confirm it.

It puts the lotion on its skin?

They are part of Going Rogue. You have to purchase the expansion in some way in order to access the powersets on the live servers.

If you do not purchase Going Rogue, then you do not get Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning. At all.

(At least, not in the foreseeable future... maybe 2-3 years down the road, they'll give Going Rogue to every subscriber the same way they did when they made both CoH and CoV accessible in 2008 if you had an existing account for one or the other.)

When you pre-purchase Going Rogue, you get early access to Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning. You still have to wait until July to get access to Praetoria and everything else except for the aforementioned powersets (but you don't have to pay anything extra at this date).

And the announcement was made at about 4:00 PM at Paragon Studios' time; that's the main reason no other red name posts have appeared, given that most of them probably went home at about 5:00 and/or are way too busy to check the boards these days anyway. BABs especially falls under the latter--unless there is a serious animation bug in the Dual Pistols beta, you're unlikely to hear from him at all.

At a store like Gamestop, yes, probably. But the phrasing on the announcement seems to imply that you won't get a code to use the powersets early unless you do the pre-purchase through the NCSoft online store.

I wasn't sure what was meant by "if they want everything." I was just trying to cover all the bases.

Pretty much what Agg said above, with extra emphasis on the bit about the item pack pricing being assumed and subject to change. Seems like it'll be $55 until they officially tell us how much that item pack will cost.

$40 (US) at the store in July gets you City of Heroes/Villains, the Going Rogue expansion and all the bonuses (costumes, stance emotes, inherent stealth power, etc.) that are being released at the time of the expansion. They gave that price.

But if you're thinking it'll include the previous microtransaction packs (Good vs. Evil, Mac, Wedding, Cyborg, Magic, Super Science and Martial Arts), absolutely not. Nor should it for that low a price.

If I understand the announcement correctly, there will not be preorder/pre-purchase codes given to retailers. It looks like a deal that will only be available through NCSoft's online store.

I think you're confused to the point where you've confused me, too. ^_^;

I'm going to try and deconstruct your NyQuil-driven post here...

1) You pay $30 directly to NCSoft as the pre-purchase amount. This entitles you to the Going Rogue expansion when it is released. You do not have to pay anything else.
2) You get Dual Pistols as early as March, and Demon Summoning as early as April (depending on when you do your pre-purchase transaction).
.....a) Ultra Mode is now coming for free with Issue 17.
3) When Going Rogue is released in July, then you get the new Praetorian zones, the ability to switch sides with your characters, and presumably the new end-game content.

If you do NOT pre-purchase, you do not get Dual Pistols or Demon Summoning early. They are only for people who purchase the Going Rogue expansion. (If you buy the expansion after it is released, you get access to the powersets then.)

Did that hopefully clear it up a bit for you?

Paying $30 to the NCSoft store will get you Dual Pistols almost immediately*, Demon Summoning sometime the following month*, and full access to Praetoria and all the other content and features of Going Rogue in July.
*Assuming you preorder when the option is first made available.

If you want the special bonus costumes, stance emotes, stealth power and whatever other goodies are in the "Complete Collection," then yes, you'll have to pay an additional fee once the expansion is actually released.

Wait... you'll be pissed if the box does come with something other than a disc, code and manual...?

In a sideways sweeping motion, and aimed predominately at the meaty area to the side of the head's main orifice, yes.

(By the way, for those of you who have difficulty reading the tone of posts on a message board, this post is just a joke. While not happy about the lack of a Complete Collection preorder, I do not particularly feel as though I'm being slapped in the face. )

Pretty sure BT's got it right. The Collector's Edition is called the COMPLETE COLLECTION for a reason--it'll have Going Rogue and all the extras in one package.

I'm definitely going to preorder--I was intending to since the expansion was first announced last year! But you gotta remember, a lot of us work during the day.

(I just happened to have my screenshots handy from when I designed the costume on the live servers.)

It's not like he probably would have listened anyway...

And you DO get Dual Pistols for Double XP weekend, as long as you preorder Going Rogue before or during it. You just don't get them for free.

From the Double XP Weekend announcement: