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I have a feeling that this will be at least as depressing as it is funny.
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I just realized this movie is conceptually similar to The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys.
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So what are the odds that this will be the most popular halloween costume this year?
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It depends on if you count topography porn as contributing to the depth of the material.
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Bear in mind that this what I've gathered from these films upon single viewings. If someone brings up something that could warrant additional viewings, I might add them to my Netflix queue.
Blade Runner
Overall, just a very bland film to me. Much of the movie is spent building up the danger of the escaped androids, yet those same androids simply spend most of the their time acting odd or moping over their situation. The main character of the film wasn't fleshed out enough to make me care about him or his mission. Perhaps my interpretation of the film suffered for not looking at it as "Han Solo fights robots." There's just too much that goes unsaid or not shown about the characters and their relationships, so it's hollow.
The Godfather
Pretty disappointing to me because it had some of the best actors you could ask for in a movie, but the direction and the writing didn't use them to their fullest potential. The movie's supposed to be about a son whose kept his nose clean his whole life reluctantly taking over the reins of a criminal empire, but there's no reluctance. We don't really see Michael Corleone struggle with his decisions and his character comes off so flat. I mean, he takes off for the country of his forebears and has a wife, but after she gets offed and he returns it's like that whole part of his life never happened. Essentially, it was too evident that it was based on a novel because the writer and director tried to cram as much material in there as they could without putting more thought into smoothing out the story.
The Godfather Part II
There were the same issues as the first one, except they were compounded by the fact that this was the sequel and you'd think the creative staff would've learned from their mistakes. Furthermore, it was too much of a rehash of the first film. Again we get the flashbacks of Vito's earlier life, except now they're less relevant and less compelling. Again we have a betrayal that has to be addressed through a strategic mass assassination sequence.
Citizen Kane
Strangely enough, this came off to me as the Avatar of its time. The story, characters, and performances were so-so, and it depended a lot on its technical accomplishments. There were a lot directorial techniques applied that were among the first of their kind, but Welles was less talented behind the camera than Cameron, and much of the power and emotion behind the performances were lost, perhaps due to Welles' inexperience as a director or maybe because the actors' talent simply wasn't there. Some have suggested that I'm simply prejudiced against films that came before my time; however, I did enjoy 12 Angry Men and A Raisin in the Sun because there was talent behind the writing and the performances. -
Quote:Abandoning as many expectations for movies as possible has generally produced good results for me. I think the Sucker Punch that's being alluded to in the title refers to how they're choosing to represent the film in most trailers, which is an eye candy film, and the sucker punch is the substance.Perhaps I'd just rather be in the "expect it's going to suck and be pleasantly surprised when it's good" camp than the "assume it'll be good and then get disappointed when it isn't" camp. Call it strategy to maximize my enjoyment of a movie.
If that makes me a Negative Nancy then I'll just have to live with that. -
I would happy to go into why I thought those films didn't deserve the praise they get, in case you're wondering.
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Quote:There's being realistic and being a negative nancy. The latter tends to involve attempting to stamp out optimism where it's found.I'm optimistic that it has a -chance- to be a good movie.
To blindly assume it'll either be bad or good sight-unseen is foolhardy.
For example I'm a Wonder Woman fan but even on the recent ongoing thread in this forum about the upcoming Wonder Woman TV show I've conceded many times that it's very likely to be a crummy show despite my hopes for it.
Sorry if being realistic seems like such a downer to everyone. -
Yes. We've been getting nothing but optimism from you about this film.
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Quote:I don't really put that much stock in rankings like that anymore, especially after seeing how mediocre the first two Godfather movies were. And the same goes for Citizen Kane.Well I figured the mere mentioning of SyFy in this context was good enough without having to directly call you out on it.
I ultimaltely don't really care if you didn't like Blade Runner or not. But as least you have to concede there's -some- reason why it's currently ranked #15 on IMDB.com's top 50 all-time Sci-Fi films list. -
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Quote:So you were trying to say my taste sucks for saying what I said? Just say that next time.It means pretty much what I said.
Most people generally look down on the typical dreck that SyFy has churned out over the last few years as a "bad thing" for actual science fiction. Let's just say if SyFy had had anything to do with Blade Runner it probably would have looked more like “Megapython vs. Gatoroid” or "WWE vs. Replicants". -
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Quote:Agreed, sir.Perhaps so.
But Blade Runner was one of those movies that I struggled to sit completely through. And even then, I couldn't watch it in one sitting. I had to space it out over 3 or so nights because it was boring.
It was definitely one of the more disappointing movies I'd seen because it'd been so hyped up over the years as one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time. Then I go to watch it and struggle to stay awake.
I might rewatch it again soon to reevaluate my take on it, but I've got Blu-Rays coming in that I'm actually interested in. >.> -
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Why did I first hear about this on MSN, people?!
MSN is slower than hell when it comes to the news. -
Quote:Why would you fear that?Eh, I never claimed I've seen every trailer for this movie so far.
But if what you say is the case then my fears that they're going to let the fantasy world bleed into the real world seem justified. I'm still likely going to see this regardless, but like I implied earlier there's still plenty of room for this movie to shoot itself in the proverbial foot.
It seems that by making this move they're allaying fears that this will be an all flash and no substance movie, and the climax will undoubtedly be more powerful. -
Quote:Actually, one of the trailers indicates that the fantasy does reflect an escape plan and it shows the various tasks they have to complete with their real and fantastical versions.*MILD SPOILERS ALERT*
In a nutshell the main character is a girl who's (apparently falsely) imprisoned in a mental institution and she use her "vivid imagination" to cope/escape from reality. It's not clear from the trailers if she ACTUALLY escapes from the nuthouse or if this is all just a fantasy she creates for herself as she goes insane for real.
That's why I think it'd be cool if they handle Sucker Punch like the "Owl Creek Bridge" story I mentioned. In that story a Civil War soldier is about to be hung but somehow escapes the noose and makes a fantastically desperate attempt to get home. Turns out the entire "escape" never actually happened and the whole story was just an instantaneous "life flashing before his eyes" hallucination he experiences seconds before they hang him.
If they apply that kind of twist to this movie it'd be great. Basically she "imagines" that they all become cool ninja warrior-chicks but in reality she's just moments away from a lobotomy that's going to effectively kill her anyway. That'd be tragically cool. -
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Quote:Maybe Kyle Rayner as GL?Okay, Spawn and Venom i can see as being fairly recent iconic comic book characters having been created in the 90s, but Iron Man has been around longer than Wolverine.
Within the context of comic book characters i think Deadpool is currently somewhere near the same level of recognition as Venom and Spawn.
Offhand i can't think of any DC characters created in the last two decades who have a similar level of recognition. -
Don't forget Brendan Gleeson and Stanley Tucci.