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Quote:I thought she said "Code 13," but she did look like her.Originally Posted by SusieVir
I don't know if i was hearing things or not. But near the end, a shield agent (played by Amanda Righetti, who is in the Avengers also) radios of Rogers running and mentions this is Agent 13....IMDB has her labeled just as Shield Agent. Nice they put Sharon Carter in it. -
Quote:You're uh, you're making this up, right?Originally Posted by Samothrake
Posting this from another board. I want to get more discussion.
From the DCnU panel at SDCC
Great, another marriage down the tubes because writers today dont know how to write a married couple.
Next up: Wally is still a teen! (Kid Flash isn't Bart, ya know!), which means that another 'comfortable' marriage is gone. Jay miiiight just get a reprieve from the vanishing marriage scenario because he so old.
And if Barry hasn't married Iris, then Bart can't around at all! No marriage means children and therefore no grand-children.
Ralph and Sue Dibney? Dating, but not exclusively.
Hawkman and Hawkwoman are no longer romantically connected. In fact, they cannot stand to be near each other.
Aquaman and Mera are just friends.
Green Arrow and Black Canary have only ever made eye contact over the Justice League round table.
Adam Strange is just starting his adventures, and therefore hasnt met the love of his life.
Big Barda and Scott Free are kissin cousins.
Kent Nelson divorced Inza over irrectoncilable differences (she thought he spent too much time with Fates Helmet) years ago, and they no longer speak.
Jor-Els wife Lara died in childbirth due to complications of the rapidly changing energies spurting from the core of Krypton. Jor-el sent Kal-El to earth not to save him, but because he couldnt bear to raise the child without his love.
The Kent marriage was falling apart form the stresses of raising an alien when Johnathan died of a heart attack. Martha wasted away over the next year and finally died in her sleep.
Red Tornado, not being human, had his marriage license revoked by the state.
Rex Mason/Metamorpho was declared dead and his former wife Sapphire married another man. They are still in legal battles over which marriage is valid.
About the only hero we know of who still has a wife and family is Buddy Baker Animal Man, and thats only because somebody figured out a way tell a story involving his daughter.
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Sorry I haven't commented since the first episode folks; I was basically on vacation for two weeks. Anyway, thoughts . . .
- Quote of the night: TIE between "Jessica ***** you?" and "Oh my gravy." They sure do love giving Jason the best lines.
- Boy am I glad that Tommy offed his ****** up folks; for a minute there I was scared we'd have to go through a rehash of Sam helping Tommy escape their clutches.
- As with the Maenad from Season 2, it's nice to see that vampires don't necessarily have their run of the supernatural world and they actually fear witches.
- He's your great, great, great, great, great grandfather, Portia! Jeez!
- Well, I suppose I can deal with the Arlene's Baby plot so long as it's Rene's spirit, which ties into the main plot a bit better, as opposed to the baby being evil.
- I was worried when Jessica saved Jason that there'd be a romantic triangle, but it's nice to see that Jason's conscience nags at him even subconsciously, especially with Hoyt being one of those characters that you'd perhaps like to hate since he has such a smokin chick but you can't since he's so decent.
- I see that Sookie has retained her investigative prowess.
- Anyone else recall Sam's MILF saying that a shifter can gain extra power from killing their kin? I foresee a lot of shenanigans by Tommy, perhaps to the extreme where he tries to take over Sam's life.
- Man, it sucks to see that it appears Tara and Sookie will be at odds and splitting screentime yet again; it's always awesome when you get two strong female characters watching each other's back.
- Can't wait for Marnie's epic breakout when that witch spirit decides it doesn't want to be locked up again.
- They're already trying to top the horrendous sex scene between Bill and Lorena, I see.
- I'm curious to see how Jesus' grandfather's power stacks up against a possessed Marnie, and how long before the vampires find out about him.
- I wonder how they'll attempt to tie Tara's plotline to what's going on in Bon Temps.
- Way to let the cat out of the bag, Pam, especially when things are getting hot and heavy between Sookie and Eric.
- It can't be long before the AVL decides to step in and eat some witches.
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Just came back from it. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was slightly better than Thor because of the characterization. So far, Marvel hasn't dropped the ball on any of their films, which makes it all the more disappointing that DC has only the Batman films to offer up. I really wish they'd get their **** together.
Also, it was nice to see the Avengers teaser at the end. It just sucks for all the folks who actually left the theater thinking we weren't getting a stinger. -
Quote:It's probably coming soon. They included him in a different poster with all of them together.Originally Posted by Furio
These aren't photos, though....they're concept art. Not having the finished movie version of Hulk shouldn't preclude them from releasing one of these of him.
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I'm wondering if they'll bring some of Thor's arrogance back for the Avengers movie when it comes time to take orders from Cap. Also, I'm curious how many elements of Millar's Ultimates run they'll include, such as the team not believing Thor is an actual god and the Avengers breaking away from SHIELD after their encounter with Loki.
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Quote:The realization would surely be ****** up, but what I meant was going through something traumatic for all your childhood makes it easier to swallow the repression angle than a single moment that he doesn't really remember.Originally Posted by Nericus
Well accident or not, watching your father kill your mother is going to traumatize you ( or at least one would think that it would).
As to the physical abuse not being in the movie, well it's possible Ang Lee didn't want that or else certain regulations prohibited it. Parent groups and all that........ -
Quote:I think they should have kept it more in line with the comic if they were going to make his father such a big part of the story. Enduring years of psychological and physical abuse at the hands of his father makes more sense than an accidental death when he was a baby.Originally Posted by Nericus
Part of the release of emotions could also be attributed to the fact that his brain tissue is changing with the rest of him and that there is likely a physical component that makes it hard to control himself on top of the psychological trauma.
Also I liked how they kept with the fact that his father killed his mother, the only change being that in the movie it was an accident since they struggled and fell and the knife hit her. In the comic, his father was drunk and physcially abusive to Banner and his mother and then when they tried to flee his father killed her as he silently watched. -
Quote:I thought it was pretty obvious I was referring to the ending when I kept pointing out how his realization that his father killed his mother and helped turn him into the Hulk didn't lead anywhere, and for the Hulk movie that was supposedly deeper, all that time spent on the father-son relationship was "resolved" with a fight. In other words, they put all that time into those aspects of the story for no real payoff, which should have happened during the ending.Originally Posted by JayboH
I will clarify:
You said "The thing about those bits was they didn't go anywhere" and never mentioned the ending.
I replied "No they do, the whole point to that was to indicate how much emotion he kept to himself - Betty goes into detail about it - he discusses how the nanomeds fixed him physically but she asks about psychological repair. When he finally changes, he talks about how it kind of scares him when he totally loses control, because he likes it. He FINALLY gets to release all that pent up emotion which required a full back story to make any sense.
His first change is triggered mostly by current events and they only hint twice about his childhood. I think they only showed those because he was remembering his reintroduction to his father in the hospital. "
I never mentioned the ending anywhere, just like you. -
Quote:But you said that the ending ends up justifying the background and screen time we're given with Banner's father, but when the resolution isn't a resolution at all then the pieces that were put in place for it just end up claiming valuable time that could have been better used.Originally Posted by JayboH
Yeah, I am not sure you read the original post about the ending.
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Quote:Well, even in 616 Marvel there's so many damn variations of the Hulk to reflect different writers' takes and experiments. I'm sure Millar wasn't the first to consider Hulk as Banner's hungry, horny id.Originally Posted by Liquid
God I hope they don't base Avengers Hulk on Ultimate Hulk. Ultimate Hulk is evil and disgusting, a cannibal would-be rapist. He represents everything I hate about Mark Millar's work.
I want a misunderstood, reluctant hero Hulk that scares the hell out of everyone because he's huge, angry, powerful, and looks like a monster (the Ang Lee Hulk was too smooth and even cute in the face), but just wants to be left alone, and keeps getting pulled back into saving people's lives because he doesn't want innocent people to get hurt. -
It's kinda funny how the comic book movies are already expansive enough that certain directors and actors have had their own "runs" similar to writers and artists to the point where we'll probably be debating with younger generations and folks with different tastes in general about whose run was superior.
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How come I've seen this advertised as Spider-Man 4 in some places when it's clearly a reboot? o.O
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Quote:So for the film that's supposedly deeper, the whole resolution to Banner discovering his ****** up background is the Hulk passing on his pent-up emotions as green energy to his mutated father who just kind of shrinks away from it? As opposed to a confrontation in their normal forms where Banner forgives his father or explodes on him while keeping his transformation in check.Originally Posted by JayboH
No they do, the whole point to that was to indicate how much emotion he kept to himself - Betty goes into detail about it - he discusses how the nanomeds fixed him physically but she asks about psychological repair. When he finally changes, he talks about how it kind of scares him when he totally loses control, because he likes it. He FINALLY gets to release all that pent up emotion which required a full back story to make any sense.
His first change is triggered mostly by current events and they only hint twice about his childhood. I think they only showed those because he was remembering his reintroduction to his father in the hospital. -
Quote:The thing about those bits was they didn't go anywhere, which is what I've been saying. Ang Lee focused too much on the drama of Banner prior to his becoming the Hulk, when that accident was more than enough of a source already, so his history ends up overwhelming what he's dealing with now.Originally Posted by JayboH
That's because he wasn't exposed to the nanomeds which were activated by the gamma radiation. There was plenty of hints of the trauma though - you are forgetting the scene where he was high school age, waking up shaking from nightmares. You are forgetting all of the scenes showing how much difficulty he had in opening up to Betty, which basically caused her to dump him.
It wouldn't hurt watching it again with an open mind.
His father was already a villain before he became The Absorbing Man, but I get what you are saying. -
Quote:But there was no split or hints of trauma prior to the accident that made him the Hulk. The fact that he had to keep his anger in check at all times or he'd risk becoming an unstoppable mass murderer should have been trauma enough but they felt the need to have him remember that his dad killed his mom just so that revelation would go nowhere. And they turned The Absorbing Man into his dad just to force a personal relationship between the hero and the villain.Originally Posted by JayboH
I think the struggle is the key. Betty is told what happened (so that the audience can relate to her and understand) and it is such a powerful image in Bruce's life that even getting near that incident in his memory has caused a psychotic break - the split in personality gives hints to himself of his alter ego when he nears that incident in his memory several times.
I like the shots of the various animals that were experimented with to make him what he is as he gets nearer to rage - very nice touch.
I thought Nick Nolte was also good in this role, but again the ending was terrible. -
It's not really smarter, deeper, or more cerebral when it comes to the father/absorbing hobo storyline since there's no actual process of Banner coming to grips with what he witnessed and such.
There were some things about it that you could tell would have been in place for the kind of movie they really would have wanted, but the studio just gave a bunch of money to Ang Lee for this movie and it fell flat, pretty much like Superman Returns. -
Well, merely based on the responses in this thread, at least it's obvious that the fallout from this has potential.
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Quote:I know what you meant, sir, but I still wanted to know.Originally Posted by Zikar
I meant in general, like, the whole universe.
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Quote:Did they ever give Ultimate Fury his own series?Originally Posted by Zikar
Ultimate Spider-Man is about the only thing worth saving in the Ultimate line anyway. Well, and Samuel L. Jackson Nick Fury.
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Are Nolan and Bale confirmed to be done after this one?
If so, I had this idea that they might cap this one by blending the Knightfall and Dark Knight Returns arcs, with Bane breaking Batman's back and taking over Gotham with the help of Thalia al Ghul (played by Marion Cotillard), who infiltrated Bruce's company and life. With the healing process taking decades instead of months as in the comics, Bruce comes back to retake his mantle and his city, with the aid of Carrie Kelly aka Robin (played by Juno Temple). He is reluctant to also accept the help of Catwoman, the vigilante who stepped up to take Batman's place and has been fighting a losing battle since the Dark Knight fell. -
Just got back from it.
All I can say is that no one can gripe about lack of robot on robot violence after seeing this one.
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Wow. Just looked it up. Marvel U vs fear incarnate.
Totally NOT ripping off Sinestro Corps War at all. -
What exactly is this event? o.O
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Quote:I think the effects work on him is great in the daylight scenes, but in the ones outside of the Project Rebirth sequence where the light is artificial, it does seem more off.Originally Posted by Oathbound
Honestly, every time I see a trailer I can't help but think they went too far making him short and scrawny for the Before version. It just doesn't look right. Like they're just photoshopping Chris Evans' full sized adult head head onto a 12 year old's body.
Yes, I get that he was supposed to be puny and weak before the super soldier stuff, but it just jumps past scrawny and into eyeroll territory for me.