Blue_Centurion

It's an honest question. You did not read the sentence in my opinion that stated why I felt the rewards were worth it. When I pointed out the sentence that you seemed to have missed, you said the statement had little value. As if you did not comprehend that entire statement was my opinion. So, I am left to wonder if I am talking over your head. I am used to discussing things in college philosophy courses, and sometimes it takes me a while to realize it when I am dealing with people who do not communicate at that level. I am sorry if you found this insulting. Yet you seem to ignore all of the actual factual statements I have made about this discussion You have completely discounted my opinion as invalid in order to make the point that your calling me a hypocrite was justified. Now you are accusing me of insulting you when I am trying to figure out how you cannot understand the words I am typing. I really do not have any more time for this conversation. I am sorry if I insulted you. Have a good day.

Oh, if you need me to write shorter sentences and use smaller words just ask.

Oh. this reminds me of the best/worst TF I ever did lol. The old Posi. I was on a Blaster. I Blast somewhat poorly know, this was some years ago, and I was horrid. The team was struggling, it was taking forever. We lost one or two, then a third. Last mission, at the start, the rest quit, en masse. I really, really wanted that badge lol. I fought each group, pulling and Blasting like a maniac. Faceplanted a couple times, less than I thought I would. slowly i killed them all lol. One hour or so later, I took the vator up to the last fight. Thank the powers for that vator. Build up SNIPE, duck down the vator. Repeat 10 times. The EB dies. (No AV in the old Posi heh). Took me almost 2 hours on that last mission, but I got the badge lol. Maybe that experience is why I posted this. I really really hate people quitting TFs.

Hmm. Let me see if I understand this. You called me a hypocrite, and I pointed out a very clear statement I made that invalidated any reason for you calling me a hypocrite.

I gather from the paragraph above that you do not agree with my logic about the rewards/time metric, so you say "the difference is not that large". this basically frees you up to invalidate my opinion and still stand by you calling me a hypocrite.

In lofty Olde Englishe "Philippus aunswered, that the Macedonians wer feloes of no fyne witte in their termes but altogether grosse, clubbyshe, and rusticall, as they whiche had not the witte to calle a spade by any other name then a spade."

The Oxford English Dictionary records a more forceful variant, "to call a spade a bloody shovel", attested since 1919.

But what you have done is bend all the tines on my pitchfork together and called it a shovel. And that is just wrong. My opinion is valid, it is different than yours. But do not invalidate my opinion and then call me a hypocrite because you do not think my opinion matters. It is uncouth, and uncool. And more importantly, it ain't a bloody shovel.

This. Do not do this.

I hate to have to quote myself. I realize it was not a three sentence post, but I very clearly stated why I believe that aside from the story and quality of the Underground Trial, the Rewards are commensurate to the time invested. I am sorry if this was unclear to you.

PS, Do not call people names like hypocrite. Especially me. Thank you.

This would be a quality of life improvement that would go so far. I can see the difficulties. But I see so many possibilities to. My personal version of Venture Bros' Monarch. (Completely different of course. But there is no match for a crazy mastermind with matching minion uniforms. The Riddler, The Penguin, The Monarch, the list goes on, and I could be rolling masterminds for a year lol.)

I LOVE the Underground Trial. Although, yes, it takes an hour and a half or longer. It is very well written. It is challenging. It has variation. It fits the story very well.

Compare it to TPN. Repetitive. Then there is the problem with TPN repetitiveness. But I think what really bothers me about the TPN is the repetitiveness. Seriously though, with TPN you run from one building to another ad infinitum. I always think the Benny Hill theme song should be playing. Bldg, bldg, bldg, fight AV, bldg, bldg, bldg, blfgdh, Fight AV, fgh sdfg sdfg fgght AV. Then there is the TPN glitch that kicks leagues. The two cheat mechanics of flooring everyone's defense and a thousand foot unresistable random boot to the head are really masterstrokes of incompetence. It was like the writer woke up after a 3 week drunk. Huh, this is due tomorrow, but it looks like I just have an idea for one bldg fight and the AV picked. Huh, okay, i'll just repeat the bldg fight 20 times and have them fight the AV a few times. I don't know how Bob got those pink patches, so I'll just floor everyones defense and blame it on psychics. And I'll just randomly kill a league members randomly and blame it on the AV. Cool, done in less than 3 hours. I'm going to get another bottle.

The Underground Trial is very well written, with variation in the journey that takes you from the surface to deep into the depths of the world. There is a logical progression of it, with a smart league the challenges are difficult but not overwhelming. I got all but one badge (killing the AV at the end in the right time window) on my first run through it. There is no glitch that kicks leagues. There is a guarantee of a Rare or Very Rare at the end. It is a fair return for a fair time investment.

Sure, if I have less than an hour, BAF or LAM. But if the league even looks like it might be dialed in I'll jump onto a Underground. The TPN? Only if I have tons of time and have done every other trial for the day. or a friend is leading it and I want to lend a hand. Gotta support your channel mates after all.

Uh huh, that explains some glitches I've had. My main is a Elec/Elec Scrapper. From time to time LR will not fire. My DPS drops to zero as I try to get the circle to land where I want it. I was thinking the comp was having problems targeting the area, not that I might be on an "uneven surface" In fact, one reason (of many0 I have been resisting making a Archery Blaster is the last power is a "Pet" and i have not loved that on Elec. Thx for the insight.

I suspect that is Bill Z Bubba's alter ego. (don't tell anyone I said that)

Thanks Bill, good news and from a trusted source! Call me "Soloing in Dark Astoria"

I am planning to try to farm the solo arcs for purple recipe and catalyst drops. Is that doable? +0/x8...?