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Quote:Yes, that is the sort of thing that I would expect a moderator to do. Not merely severely curtail forum use for everyone, because that is easier than punishing individual infractions.The obvious solution would have been to 30 day BAN people from posting in the forums, who post ****ed up **** in rep comments.
and I do not mean ban them from Rep comments for 30 I mean KICK THEM OUT of the forums all together for 30 days.
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Quote:Once again, the Goat is the voice of reason. I'd up rep you for it, but you wouldn't be able to see it, so what would be the point?I think the whole "omg awful, terrible things in my rep comments nobody would ever say in public!" hysteria is comically inflated.
I'm as polarizing a figure as you're likely to find, and the most insulting rep comment I got was my stalker who commented "jerk" as often as they could for a few weeks.
I'm sure some over the line things were said. But that happens 'out here' too. And they don't shut the forums down over it, they police the offenders and move on. -
je_saist,
I apreciate you taking the time to carefully and thoughtfully adress my points, even when I am basically just being a stubborn a-hole. I'm aware that my position is not a popular one, and that I am not exactly being open minded in my defense of it either. That would be the "stubborn a-hole" thing I mentioned earlier rearing up. So, to your points;
Mr No Pants may have been right, that the number of truly guilty parties would have been too many to really censure. But, as I said, it's not really neccissary to punish every infraction. If the mods can see who is leaving what comments, then it is a simple matter to find the violations that are left by some of the most prolific posters. You make an announcement that personal attacks will not be tolerated, and that several posters have been sanctioned for this, but you don't have to name names. The word Banned after their name in their user profile should get the message across. Once people know for sure that there are consequences, then the remaining number of infractions can easily be handled by use of the report post option already baked into the forums.
People are only brazen in their attacks because they believe that there are no consequences for doing so. Anonymity is only partly to blame here. The other half of the blamesicle is pure frozen failure to act on the part of our mods. I know I have been attacked through reputation several times. Twice in this very thread. So far anyway. And this thread is full of accounts from users who have had flagrant violations of the terms of service leveled against them. Yet none of these violators has ever been punished, as far as I can tell. And that, more than anonymity by far, is the real source of these sorts of comments. By refusing to punish them, as the EULA promises, the mods are in essence, giving the attacks their blessings. And they will continue under the current botching of the system.
The same flaws the rep haters are railing against are still very much present for those of us who LIKE the rep system. It can still be used to say hateful, degrading things with perfect anonymity. And that's why you guys think the change is good right? So you don't have to see the attacks people launch at you if you don't even like the rep system anyway. Only now, the same attacks are still occuring, and they are only seen by the people who care enough about their rep to look after it. Or, from another perspective, the only posters who can see the attacks are the ones most likely to be bothered by them. I think a reasonable mind would see why that might not be an ideal solution. -
If they had ever done their job of punishing the violations in the first place, it would have severely curtailed the abuses down to a managable level.
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Pshhhh. You wouldn't need to do it to all offenders. Just a handful of highly visable ones. You announce that personal attacks via reputation wont be tolerated, and then a few highly visable forum users vanish for a few weeks. People will get the message.
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Quote:Forget it, you can't reason with these people. It doesn't matter to them how many people found it useful or enjoyable, all that matters to them is that they personally don't like it, so nobody else should be allowed to have it either.That's stupid. Threads wouldn't be worth reading if one post out of two was simply "I agree" or "you're wrong, idiot". That's the sort of thing rep is useful for (yes, even the latter, knowing people react bad to something I say is worth something to me).
It just seems to me the only reason anyone could want a completely optional system to be removed is because they're angry they get bad comments. If you care about e-rep so much that you can't turn it off and never look at comments, stop being a jerk and act nice. -
Yeah, or you just unload a wave of bans. See how many people want to leave you dirty notes when it gets them shot punted off the boards for a few weeks.
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Quote:Well, I guess it was easier than doing their job and leveling punishment against those violations.Yes, since we weren't asked BEFORE they activated the silly unnecessary "game" that trolls used to BLATANTLY break the forum rules.
So I really couldn't care less if the mods didn't ask anyone before they turned off the comments.
Very fair.
Lay-zee!
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So, because you guys don't have the stomach for insults, I don't get to see my compliments. So fair.
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Quote:My favorite pizza is thin crust, double pepperoni and cheese, and my favorite RP is top knotch, subtle and doesn't come at the cost of a player's ability to win battles.This thread makes me think of that one Garfield (animated version) episode. He's met a group of people who all agree on everything, and finally after getting fed up he offers pizza. Immediately they all start fighting about the toppings. He's not surprised in the slightest.
My favorite pizza would be a double-decker or stuffed crust, with sausage, black olives, and mushrooms.
My preferred RP is in the course of a regular mission, as opposed to standing around in Pocket D or under Atlas. And I'm only the audience, playing the strong silent type, because I'm really terrible at RP apart from appreciating it. -
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Ms Spectre LOVES anchovies. Hers, thus, if a harrowed path, as no man before me would ever allow one of these vile salted sea vermin to so much as brush up against his share of the pie.
Before I met her, I had never given anchovies a try. But she seemed to love them. And she loved me. So I thought I should at least sample them once, based on that. Of course, had I been thinking more clearly, I would have realized that she has shown a preference to love things that were terrible. And anchovies, I can assure you, are foul, filthy little spooge sacks that leave a man retching for hours after they are tasted. The slightest touch of this salted strip of fish meat will spoil the flavor of an entire slice of pizza, and possibly the one next to it as well. They are absolutely that bad. I **** you not. A crime against pizza.
Nonetheless, she loves them. And I love her. And so, when we order out for pizza, whatever else we decide on, I get her a bin of the loathsome things, on the side. She can thus apply them however she likes to her portion, without rendering my meal inedible. Truly, ours is a love that will echo through the ages. -
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Bring it back! Don't make me start making snide comments to people's faces!
Seriously though. It was better before you messed with it. Either leave it the way it was, or pitch the whole thing. -
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Quote:linkphailAlthough the new costume change emotes are okay... Until they have the costume change sequence of one of the greatest of Kung Phoo masters they will always fall short.
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Quote:It's not good enough to replace a travel power, IMO. And, as you point out, neither is Mission TP. Although, with the detoggle bug, I've managed to TP to multiple missions in a row. Even then, even with the general cheapening of travel powers in general in this game, I don't see this replacing anything except, maybe, Sprint, and even that is unlikely.Yeah, but... The Mission Teleporter is on a ONE HOUR recharge timer, and is unaffected by speed buffs
I swear by my mission teleporter as much as the next guy, and being smart about it can probably 20 minutes of travelling over a long play session. But it's hardly something that you'll drop your travel power over, because missions rarely take an hour to complete, and even then, it can't take you to the market or to your contact. I swear by the thing and I'd never consider relying on it.
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Quote:Mission Teleport. A power I bought, and can no longer imagine myself playing with out.The jump pack doesn't really make you get from place to place that much faster. But tell you what - if you could ninja-run for 30 seconds and then have to wait for the run to rechage for 5 minutes, then I wouldn't be complaining.
Point. Your serve.
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Nice write up and some well thought out commentary. I don't agree with everything, but the broad strokes are solid.
Personally, I never experienced any difficulty understanding what to do during a Deadly Apocalypse. But then, we kick all sorts of *** on Infinity. -
Quote:I disagree with the first part of your statement so hard.If it's a temp power for something very specific, ie "The Lao Bone" or a Void Hunter Rifle, then yeah...I don't want to make them into generic custom weapons.
But just being a temp power doesn't mean I won't consider it as a potential custom weapon.
Even so, good work, in general, as always BABs.
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I usually beat BABs at level 30ish for Crimson Revenant, and Posi right after level 40 for the Rikti Ambassador who's name is hard to spell.