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Oh ok Doom, thats what I thought you were talking but I guess I got it confused. Although I did it wrong, it may help out in the end. As for Tru Grit having 2 special uses, Adding Defense for Smashing/Leathal and +max Hp, I really was leaning more towards the resistance of smashing and leathal dmg. Then again... whats yalls take on True Grit? load it up with Defense or Max HP or both?

Im not a big fan of Aid Self. I tried it before on the build but respect'd out of it becuase I was always gettin interuptted when trying to use it, So Ive been focusing more on a Def/Resist/dmg Build. Figured if I can get Tanker-like Defense/Resist (yes I know it wont happen), but if I can get close or soft capped, then I could fall back in Insperations if need be for heals/etc.

Oh and Terman8er, its good to see another fella from Georgia! Im bout 2 hours from you in Augusta! Thanks for the reply on the build. bout 2 billion eh? Ive prolly done spent round 4 on just respecing different builds so I know the feeling when it comes to figureing out how to slot when low on influence.

This is my PVP build. I had found that my PVP build was alot stronger than my PVE build so I respected it to be similar to my PVP build, just slot in the AoE attacks and its the same set up, minus the PVP enhancements and using standard IO sets.

Took me a few mins but yeah I figured it out, thanks none the less.

Keep in mind that the "EMPTY" slots are PVP IO's and doesnt show the full bonus.



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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack -- Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg(9), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Mako-Dam%(46)
Level 1: Deflection -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-Def(5), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RedFtn-EndRdx(13), Empty(19)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-Def(5), Empty(11), Empty(15), Empty(19)
Level 4: True Grit -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(7), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(7), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), TtmC'tng-ResDam(15), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(21)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Empty(31)
Level 18: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(27), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(29), Empty(29), Empty(43)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25), P'Shift-End%(25)
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(34), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFtn-Def(36), RedFtn-EndRdx(50)
Level 24: Weave -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(33), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Empty(34)
Level 26: Disembowel -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(48), Mako-Dam%(48), Empty(50), Empty(50)
Level 28: Stealth -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), Empty(37), Empty(37), Empty(37), Empty(39), Empty(43)
Level 30: Invisibility -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Head Splitter -- Sciroc-Dam%(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(39), Empty(40), Empty(40), Empty(40)
Level 35: Phase Shift -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-Build%(42), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Laser Beam Eyes -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Dev'n-Hold%(46)
Level 47: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit



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Werner I respect that you stick to your guns, but my belief on issues is a different aspect all together. As I said before this was just my personal opinon and that was that. Didnt ask to be ridiculed or for harsh comments to be made. As for remarks I said one remark. "Moron" in which Kioski instigated. after that I left it alone.

Anyways back to the issue at hand. I downloaded the Mid's but it doesnt have listings for PVP enhancements.. also where in the program do I get all that garbled mess to post up?

Where can I download this Mids hero builder so I can post up my build? I did a search but man the crap that came back was unreal...

When I first started this post Doomhawk was bout the only one who was talking sense and reasonable post. Ive been in PM's with him trying to figure out where my build is going wrong. I tried what he was talking about with dropping 3 of one kind of set and slotting 3 more of a different kind of set.

Example: Battle Agility- Red Fortune Defense/End, Red Fortune Defense, Red Fortune Defense/End/Recharge, Shield Wall Defense, Shield Wall Defense/End/recharge, Shield wall Defense/End

in this example I figured it would be better to go with the Def/End/Recharge since the powers are toggles and not a clickable power. Also with Broadsword and shield being so Endurance heavy, I figured the extra End redux would be helpful. After I did the test for the single power I check combat attributes. It wasnt a major jump as I had thought but Defense went from 26% Defense to 29%. So I just did some quick figureing and Im just not seeing it.. if I slotted the other Defense/resist powers the same way with only a 3% gain on each thats not even close to 45%..

First off, I didnt disrepect anyone till I was disrepected first whether it was here or on PVP forums. The statements I made were and are based on my personal opinion of the AT. How does my personal opinion of the AT automatically give you the right to say harsh or crude comments? Of course Im going to snap your head off if you disrespect me, you sayin you would sit there and take it with out saying a word? yeah right....

Instead of the rude or l33t sp34k comments how about posting your so called valuable information if you think Im doing it so wrong, for all I know you lucked up and designed a good enhancment set up? Its just stupid to keep tryin to antagonize me, with out the proof you keep saying Im false about. Sure if I pop enough of the right kind of insperations at the right times I could take down a AV, but Im trying to build my set up to where I dont have to use Insperations.

I never said shield was weak. I said it need some adjusting compared to the other AT's. Its a VERY strong AT in certain areas. Great AoE output along with a - foe dmg buff, but in area's where it counts most, its lacking. Scrappers deal mellee dmg. period. I feel the power taunts a little to much. When you start pouring on the dmg + this power activated it can be rough. They are not designed to take damage like tanks but can when the pressure's on, thus u pop the uber power in your 2ndary. One with shield doesnt do that. There is no power like this for Shield set. Guess OwtS only good against sappers? I slotted it out before with Resists IO Sets. It had VERY diminishing returns. Again I slotted it out with Healing IO Sets. Again, risk vs reward to use the power was again diminishing.

I havent tried the frankenslotting method. I figured it would have been better to go full sets due to the aspect of MANY different kinds of AT's in zone at the time, or even mobs for that matter.

Yes I may be a bit naive on certain aspects of the AT, nobodys perfect. But when Im running 8 toggles 6 of them which are defense/resist related + the fact 2 are Auto from Phalanx FIghting and True Grit which + Other 2 toggles are Focused Acc, and +dmg -foe dmg power, ALL of these 6 slotted mind you with Red Fortune/Titainum Coating or better up to PVP IO's and I still feel as tho Im being hammered into the ground by mobs and PVP alike..

Like I said, I made a simple statement/opinion on the state of shield AT at the moment in my eyes and some one else began the flame war. So if Im considered a troll or whatnot by your standards then so bet it. Im not the one who went back and picked apart your post just to make snide comments, keep that in mind.

well I thought the evidence was there already.. 2 powers cant be setted out, Other AT's final power make them close to invulnerable to attacks, while OwtS is a let down, Grant Cover only grants a base 3% resist to the caster while everyone else in the group gets more. Against all Odds generates so much agro with its -foe dmg that even tankers have problems keeping agro off.

Shield charge is good in PVE, but again, useless in PVP. Its pretty obvious the designer for this set was more bent on PVE than PVP.

What good is slotting True Grit with more HP if Defense/Resist is borked the way it is? None what so ever. Just more HP they get to take off you because you cant defense yourself. I went with Resist sets on True Grit due to the fact that every little bit helps whether Def/Res is messed up currently.

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I have to ask if you've ever used one of the other godmode powers.

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I can honestly say I dont play alts. I stopped playing my other toon when Shields came out and havent looked back since. I have however seen the powers in combat and I definately can say the risk vs reward of the power are far more superior compared to OwtS. Elude pretty much makes you unhittable and gives you time to get away if you need to, Regen makes your Regen sky rocket so taking dmg is pretty much null and able to escape if need be. Owts makes you where you still get the crap beat outta you, but oh look you can recover endurance.. big woopie, thats what Stamina is for.

Ive also tried slotting OwtS with Resist sets and Heal sets both of them were useless. The stats on Stealth were better than OwtS which was a shock in its own.

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Even though Shield powerset is still new in a way, its definately lacking in the defense department compared to other AT's. Ive respected my build up to 7 times now to just to find a happy medium and no way I build it, it still lacks alot.

One with shield is pretty much useless in PVP and barely useable in PVE. The Risk VS reward using it is void. Whats the point of a greater recovery if you loose it all when it drops?! It last no where near as long as moment of glory, elude, or any other Scrapper secondary uber power.

In PVP Against all odds, its able to be detoggled by a simple taunt. It generates so much agro in PVE that its almost useless. Grant Cover is useless in PVP due to its a group only buff, not to mention Against all Odds and Active Defense cant be slotted with IO Sets..

Ive been playing Shield steadily since it was released, and even tho I love the look and the feel of the set, I'm really starting to become disheartend due to the constant let down of the lack of "uberness" feel.

Its really bad that this set has 0 choice but to dip in to power pools just to make things work for it. if it wasnt for Tough, Weave, Health, Stamina, and stealth slotted in my build with Def/Resist Sets this AT would be utterly pointless and just for looks.

Its about time for this power to get some love already instead of giving other AT's that are already ahead of the curve, whether it be Villains or Heros, MORE power and attacks and animations. Im still continueing to play it just because I like the style of it, but my patience is wearing thin with getting ganked in PVE and PVE. oh and just for the record, before anyone asks, YES im slotted out from decent to best IO sets. I dont plan on quitting or rerolling a different toon, just ready for something to happen for this AT other than let downs.

I play a shield scrapper and I can honestly say One with shield is worthless in PVP. Ive tried it with Heal IO's, Heal Sets, Resist Sets and found it the only thing it was good for was recovery and max hp. 2 other powers that are pretty much useless Ive found is the + resist buff but you only get the +3% base and thats it its more of a group buff but hey 3% is better than nothing in PVP. Also the +dmg -foe dmg power is quirky depending on the type of players in zone. Its tauntable so it can be detoggled and it also acts as a taunt so if your around npc's on the map, you likely to get attacked. It also cannot be setted out. I picked it up and have it single slotted with a end redux. figure a little less dmg taken and a little more gained is better than none.

Definately pick up Tough and Weave. I also picked up the Concealment pool to get Stealth and slot it out, not to mention the phase comes in handy for retreats AND for the villains who like to phase, you can phase with them and pumble them. Ive done alot of both and with One With Shield as crappy as it is there really is no UBER defense power for Shield set. In all aspect it is a valuable power reguardless you use it for escaping or killing.

As for set bonuses. your a tank. get your HP and Def/Resist. Ive noticed the Tanks can take a pretty good bit of damage and better set bonuses definately help out in the end. Go for Aegis or better, Luck of the Gambler or better, etc. Same goes for setting your attacks..

For damage I would almost suggest trying to get your heaviest attacks and possibly trying to hold out for epic power pool attacks. Flurry does good dmg when slotted out but has long animation time. Not really sure on the dmg of epic pools vs a tanks normal attacks so you may do what feels best for you.

I relatively use 4 main attacks in PVP. With the way people phase, disappear, or just stand there frozen not taking a lick of dmg, Im constantly switching targets. By the time you get to your next possible kill, your heaviest of hits are recharged or almost.

Gluck with your build. Ive done respec'd bout 5 to 6 times now just trying out different ideas to stay alive longer. So far its starting to come together although I do think Shield is definately lacking compared to regen, willpower, etc. but I enjoy playing it and hope for the best.

Welp I decided to give it a try. 5 slotted Focus acc and 6 slotted Laser Beam Eyes.. I must say it I like it! much better than that 1 or 2 second hold from Web Grenades. By the time I usually got to the villain they were already breakin loose from Web Grenade and it was a 50/50 toss up if I got the hit i before they got to far. Now its a pretty much a surefire hit on those pesky runners, they are havin a really hard time gettin away now.

The dmg is pretty darn comparable to the dmg from Flurry, which is nice. pushin between 140-170 depending on the person Im attacking. It makes a great chain ender for those heavy hits from Broadsword and they try to cut and run.

Thanks for the info.

Thanks for the response Supermax.

See, Im tryin to get rid of Flurry. I dont care for the long animation time.. altho it does good dmg the long animation time sucks leaves you defenseless for a good 2 to 3 seconds.

Trying to find something quick yet still give a decent attack and with it being a range attack it could be beneficial for runners. Also with the added bonus of picking up Focused Accuracy in order to get it.

Now the other question would be, would it be worth it to drop Web Grenade from Weapons mastery?

Anyone use Laser Beam Eyes epic power? do you use it? Do you have it slotted? On average how much does it hit for?

Im still working on my build. Ive rebuilt it twice, tweeking things here and there. Shield still has a way to go. Was thinking of dropping a power pick up and six slot Laser Beam Eyes epic power but not sure if its actually good or not slotted.. anyone here have it slotted out? How do you feel about it?

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Honestly the stability issue you are referring to sounds more like a server overload problem. Freedom has always been very high pop compared to the other servers.

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Really dont see how it could be an over load problem.. when the server reaches a certain # of players it locks out the server and you cant join till some players either log off or in some aspects crash. all in all imo its a good way to keep a server running constantly w/o having to worry about overpopulation and having random server crashes.

So far so good.. Was able to play for a solid 4 hours with nothing so much as hiccup other than some lag.. but thats normal for any MMO. Im just happy I'm not crashing left and right. Thanks Devs for looking into this crashing issue. Now if we can just get that chat bug fixed... *hint hint* Again keep up the hard work!

I used to play on Protector but moved to Freedom due to lack of finding a group and I dont like playing alts. I like to experience the game through one toons eyes, doing everything that the game has to offer from badges to TFs to PVP, so I chose to move to a server with more population.

Currently running 2G Ram and a 256 Vid card. So Im pretty sure there are no issues with the rig, course theres always the flip side of the coin of something I DONT know is wrong with the rig, after all it is a few years old, altho Ive been upgrading parts here and there, Im not a master computer tech by no means.

Zoning time has always been the same, its just the crashing Im having a problem with in highly populated areas. It isnt only me either.. other players on teams Ive been on are experiencing the same issues. Also sometimes you have no choice but to go into the highly populated areas for missions, etc.

If its server overload, I'd be more than happy to stay off the game for a day (Im sure others would as well) just so they can fix what they need to fix to keep it running smoothly and avoid more complaints like this one.

I think its great they the Devs are coming up with all sorts of new expansions, Booster packs, costume pieces, TFs/SFs, AE fixes, etc.. Thats whats keeping me shelling out my $$ every month, but its all FLUFF compared to playabilty. What about the issues concerning the server status??

Freedom is constantly crashing and the lag in the game is pretty much unbearable in certain areas that its causing players to crash n' burn. Players are still crashing when zoning into missions or from zone to zone.. heck, I joined a AE team last night while I was sitting under Atlas Globe.. didnt even make it to the AE building before I crashed. I dont understand why they had to put AE in EVERY single zone.. especially Atlas.. Between new players logging in, AE running constantly, Wentworth customers, NPC interaction, Costume Contests, its pulling the zone down hardcore. Sure some may not be experiencing this due to their UBER rigs, but alot of people (like me) are using a 3-5 year old rig, or the same rig that they started playing CoX with.

Just curious if this issue will be likely be fixed before I16 hits, but in that aspect I had hoped it would've been fixed before I15 hit live servers.. good thing I didnt bet any money on this one.. would've lost big time.

And to top this off with a cherry, theres still the Chat bug when putting in your prices for WW and you end up with a buncha numbers when you send someone a messege... what about that? this was happening BEFORE I15 hit.. Definately thought this would have been fixed or set up as a priority fix in I15...

First and foremost any of you flaming can pretty much kiss my shield wielding [censored]. I didnt make this post to be flamed or to be insulted. Just because Ive been PvPing a few months doesnt make it alright to say "you are a n00b" Ive PvPed in other games not just this one. So you can go blow that smoke up someone elses [censored].

Ive killed my fair share of stalkers, brutes, doms, etc. This is why the PvP community sucks as it is. People who flat out think they can insult people and then wonder why no one comes to play with them in PvP. Who'd wanna play with a jackass who has 0 respect for anyone elses views.

The stuff Im talkin about prolly will never be changed. OK so be it, but it still doesnt mean that the community as a whole couldnt address the issue and it sure as hell doesnt give you the right to mock and insult me for having my personal opinion. "Ohh he said somethin about my power, GET HIM!" Screw off.

Sorry guess Im just not in your league of "Uberness" and I refuse to sink to it. I play on the level. Obviously you dont, and thats why PvP is in the state that its in now.

Hell sorry for tryin to have a intelligent conversation with morons. This is my last post on the PvP forums due to the A-holes in here, but you can be damn sure I'll be seeing you in RV. Oh and be sure to list your name if you play on freedom just so I can shove those rude and senseless comments right back down your throat.

So your pretty much Saying Ravens that the game can get better for you but it cant for me. Play that crap somewhere else because theres always room for improvement. This would benefit everyone and not only me.

I never said nothing about putting a halt to any attack powers or defense powers for that matter. Just any power that makes you unable to be hit. Phase is the only kinda surefire save power hero side has. Villains have one for pretty much every class with out having to phase.

As for Hybernate.. Keep it if you'd like. Go ahead and Hybernate. You'd regen your power and health back faster, but if Im gonna be sittin there hitting you for a 300+ double crit dmg you better be taking a fraction of the dmg instead of resisting it totally. To me thats crap.

He pretty much said earlier that you will never be able to see a Stalker coming because thier hide is so great and they will always see you. So any chance of seeing them is null. Any chance for someone who knows nothing of PvP nor IO'd out is able to be ganked at anytime or place. But yet no hero side Archtype has that same advantage for PvP. Yes I understand if they are lvl 50 and in RV that at some point in time PvPed.. I'm just speculating here. I wasnt IO'd out when I first started PvP either.

I can deal with the Hybernate because the power is only useful every so often, but I will never like Hide the way it works currently.

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That I will agree with. The rest of it, you can pretty much go to hell with.

Im a BS/Shield Scrapper. I have my wins and my losses. Ive had my timer window full all with in a few seconds apart. Im fairly new to the scene. Been PVP for a few months now mostly in RV.

Yes I know Shield set isnt the best power choice but I like it and it fits my play style, so be it.

It has great PvE playablity as well as a few things for PvP. Ive been respecing my PvP Build when I feel it needs more tweaking. So far its pretty respectable build I have. A few things Im prolly going to change...

With, Broadsword I can usually kill something in 3-5 hits if Im quick about it and luck happens to fall in my favor and their UBER power is down or if they dont play cat and mouse..

I go by Tech-Noir on Freedom and had a nice chat with Guyver 99 on there earlier about the Scrapper vs. Stalker stuff.

He owned me none the less got him to 3/4 to a half on both fights when I was either down to 1/4 or dead. That was with One with Shield activated fully Defense set IOed out, plus some of my Accolade powers n' such. Was a good fight none the less.

Not sure what Sets hes running but Im sure they are prolly better than mine. Honestly I dont care. Could be a reason he had the upper hand on me and I didnt resist/dodge his Assassin strike. I also couldnt target him so at the beginning of the the fight had first attack from drop of the hat both fights. It was a good fight and win. Learn something new every day.

Im just talking about just targeting them to have the same advantage on the playing field as they do. Not standing there beatin on them with a stick while they heal to full heath and power. That just waste my time even tryin to kill someone like that not to mention the animation time of Broadsword.

Well then, Im gonna skip this other ignorant reply and just talk back with you Reiraku.

Ok you talk about perception. Im decently IO'ed out in every power. You talk about perception but then a stalker can be standing right next to me in Hide and I never see him. Till he lets loose his Strike that is. You said Invisibilty is 1000. then how are they able to see me from 10 feet much less 10000 feet. Something still isnt adding up.