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Quote:WHAT?!!!I think it's more..."I died more times in this TF than I have the entire life of my character up until now, and since I find faceplanting that many times in 45 minutes to be extremely irritating, then I refuse to subject myself to that same content again."
Of course, I'm not Venture but that seems to be a more accurate translation.
Don't you know that games are about suffering?! Screw you if you don't like or find fun certain content, you must suffer, suffer, suffer!!!!
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Quote:Or you've gotten NONE. that's how the random roll works.Again, just because you don't finish the ITF or the Kahn or the STF doesn't mean you haven't gotten rewards the whole way through.
However in the BAF you get a reward (3 of them which convert into threads) for getting through whether you success or not. No random roll at all. And those are more important that the useless drops you get.
As I said before getting a purple is useless for improving your character if you don't have the other 4-5 of the SAME set. Getting a AM merit or threads or Incarnate xp are GAME CHANGER for unlocking your incarnate abilities. Soooo not the same thing. -
Quote:Actually its a realistic attitude. Why in God's name would anyone repeat anything they don't find fun?Well that really shows a stellar attitude, right here. "I failed once, I'm never trying that again. I don't care to analyze why I failed or try new tactics. I'm going to blame the design and be done with it."
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Quote:They can also FAIL the final part of the raid and STILL get special bonuses. Unlike TFs. Unless you can point me to a recent tf where failing it gave you a notice of the well.Not entirely correct. I don't like that it's all complaining on the first day of the trial going live.
I see where you're coming from here, but I just don't see a difference. SO'd characters on well coordinated teams are still be able to complete these raids. They get special bonuses for completing these raids. I don't see a difference between this and any other content. -
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Quote:And is also missing the point of a public forum.You're asking people to not voice their opinions and feedback/critiscism, simply because they don't happen to like certain things?
Never going to happen.
There has to be some bleep on the irony meter for "suggesting" (LMAO right) folks not express their opinions on a public opinion forum.
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Quote:Well if you do them to level up that's a different story.Well I dunno, I've gotten plenty of experience and influence and other rewards for completing missions in TFs that I haven't finished.
The raid is just like a TF. There are different stages (missions) where you get Astral Merits (mission completion recipes) even if you don't finish it through until the end.
You go on to talk about the drops from mobs, but you're ignoring all the mission completions in between.
If you do them at 50 mission complete are a joke. And again Astral merits are > than mission complete recipes. For one missions complete recipes are RANDOM. Astral merits are NOT for the BAF. Compelete a stage get an Astral Merit. Period.
Also unless I missed something you MUST be 50 to do these trials. So comparing it what you get from leveling up (which again is a joke at 50) is not an accurate comparison. -
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Ladies and gentlemen we've now entered the twilight zone.
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Quote:Again except if you don't complete the TF, you don't get the rewards.This is no different than previous TFs. You complete the TF, you get rewards. These rewards make the TF easier.
It's the same thing as before. Why do you complain now? Because the difficulty got bumped again.
For the trials you could NOT complete them and still come away with stuff to make it easier.
You DO get drops on both, but I'd argue the drops you get on the trials are 10x greater than those you get during the tfs. A drop such as A PURPLE is irrelevant unless you have the other 4-5 parts of the set. A drop such as an the new purple AM merits or even just a thread is a game changer for incarnate slots.
Soooo, again not quite the same. -
Quote:I'd actually if folks kept complaining. If the devs plan to make any tweeks later the complaints might help. Notice I said MIGHT.I'm sorry you cannot grasp that complaining is an action. To stop complaining would not change how you think, it would just be a lot quieter around here until you got your thoughts in order.
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Quote:Well not completely.Here's a new one for you: No one "has to fail" at BAF and Lambda in order to succeed. There have been plenty of runs without incarnate slotted characters that have succeeded.
Yes, completing the trials reward you with powers to make the trials easier. Completing the ITF gives you reward merits to buy IOs to make that easier too. The comparison is valid.
In fact i would argue FAILING the trials are the preferred way to do them as it makes the whole thing less stressful. You STILL get rewarded (drops) if you fail the ITF but you don't get nearly the amount of rewards (drops) if you fail the trials.
I'd rather fail the Trials than fail an ITF.
so technically speaking failing the Trials for now is succeeding, as you are getting the stuff you need to eventually "stomp a mudhole" in the trials later. -
[QUOTE=Benchpresser;3573455]And see, this is the part that I can't master yet. Notice I said yet...
I know people beat him, and got close, I just haven't discovered the strategy to taking out his entourage yet.. but I will!!!!
Maybe I'm nuts, but I seriously prefer Lambda over BAF, Lambda seems much more.... straightforward.[/QUOTE]
Errr, not really. The times I've done them people have been more confused by Lambda than the BAF. -
Nooooo, but the things you need to actually make anything (which is the frelling point) are.
EDIT: With that said, once again, FAILING these still gets you well on the way to both unlockin the slots and getting stuff to "maek stuff" () to slot in them. So it's all good. Honestly I couldn't give a flying fig if I ever get on a successful run now that I've seen how fast this stuff comes.
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Quote:Random drops are random.Out of the 3 Lambda runs I did, I got about 85% incarnate xp towards interface. That was with not clearing all the mobs on the outside and skipping the mobs in the inside, so I could have easily unlocked the slot and then some by killing more.
Now, I only did one successful BAF where I got around 25% incarnate xp towards Judgement. I spent the 65 mil to buy the rest of the incarnate xp for both slots and I had enough threads/shards/astral merits/emp merits to get the needed components to craft the slots.
All these comments about I got this percentage or that are pointless. Some folks have better luck than others. -
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The TUT is for the times when your regular group is not online and you just want to hop on and see if you can get on a trial. I don't EVER expect to succeed on trials like that. And that's not bad as you still get a chunk of Ixp and threads.
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Quote:After experiencing my first Lambda this morning I'll be sticking to the BAF for the foreseable future. When folks get their stuff together I'll revisit it then. No time for frustration.Regardless of which "artillery" we're talking about I hardly think the trial is too hard for anyone. I ran the 3 Lambdas last night with a Controller and I only died 3 or 4 times during each run. Most of those deaths were during the phase in the building BEFORE the fight with Marauder. *shrugs*
People always come out of the woodwork and whine about the newest content in this game with every new Issue release. For the first few days, before most people adapt, there are people who claim "such-n-such" is too hard and it needs to be nerfed. Remember Apex? Give it a week or two and those voices usually die away.
Beside you're probably not even taking into account that this trial was designed with Incarnate Shifts in mind. In a few weeks when many people are +3 level shifted AND have experience with running this trial it's going to be a completely different experience.
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Quote:None of which unlock the specific slot you need to unlock. Your mistake indeed.So on my Fire/Fire tanker with no Psi protection and little Ice protection, if the Devs come out with a single trial that has an abundance of Psi and Ice damage, they made my character completely useless and I should stop playing the game.
Oh wait, there's still several TFs, a different trial, and plenty of arc content to do. My mistake. -
Actually on the BAF THAT is false. You are probably one of the most useful for Stage 2, in terms of stopping the escapees.
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Even if you fail you still win. Here is my suggestion: for now don't worry about wininng, just getting as far into the stages as possible.
On a BAF that got to the final stage and failed, I was able to get 16 threads (from the 3 Amper merits or whatever the hell the new currency idiocy is called) and 36% towards Judgement.
Don't worry about winning for now, it's not necessary. -
Quote:LMAO!Our shield tanker had 2 stacks of both Emp auras, 2 Fortitudes, Ice shields, Fire Shields, and the Grant Cover of our other Shield user.
Yeah Maurader hits HARRRD!
I haven't done Lamda yet and my squishies and non-squishies are quaking in their boots.
well, was able to do one failed BAF and get 36% to Judgement. Unlocking these things may not take as long as I thought. LOL.