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dominator thunderstrike.

oh wait that's a t8 from the secondary...

oh well..

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I still don't get it. How could you kill someone 3 times in 2 minutes with a 15-20% chance of hitting them on every shot? Considering you'd need to hit him several times per kill, and you're only landing 2 out of 10 shots.

Did you just get more lucky than you ever have in your life or something?

That actually brings up an interesting point. There have been times when I was in PFF, but it seemingly did nothing. Don't know how to explain it, but I think Jimmay has also run into it on his bubbler, so maybe he can confirm. Like, I'm sitting there, nobody can hit me at all. Then some person comes and hits me with like 8 attacks IN A ROW. Considering the numbers, that is basically mathematically impossible. Then other times, that same person can't hit me at all. This has happened on several occasions. People that can't hit me at all suddenly landing 2 full attack chains of attacks...in a row.

Before I13, we could just assume that he popped a full tray of yellows, or FoN....but now because of DR, that's not an option. Popping 20 yellows is no different than popping 2.

I don't know....I guess this game is just a bigger bugfest than we all realize.

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well basically if i hit with TS or havoc punch that's 400 hp off.

then i concentrate on fast animating attacks, over and over and over, and it works out pretty ok.

it only works on that toon though, the acc bonus is what makes it possible.

i do remember rolling 40's against him though.. but he's really bad.

he was trying to talk trash mid arena match.
i was playing my fire/elec. no tactics. 75% acc bonus or something like that.

i roll 20% against pretty much every single hero pvp pff build i've ever encountered as long as i have bu or FoN on. otherwise, a cool 15% is usual.

the kicker is the stacking of pff on top of scorpion shield and badly built toons.

to put it this way, the first few weeks of i13, when there were still really well built good players around, i ended up switching out of my dom after two kickball matches because pff was getting run through constantly (i counted 3 deaths while in pre-spike pff).

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what's a countermeasure to elude besides pff and run like a [censored]?

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Well elude isn't quite as much god mode as PFF. PFF is almost double elusivity compared to a defense set.

Elude can still be hit through by specific builds. Against PFF, nobody has even a slight chance. On top of that, it also has the very respectable +res to everything.

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only in certain builds.

i proved to forst markins that pff wasn't gonna save his [censored] after killing him 3 times in 2 minutes (full hp to 0 hp) while in pff.

what's a countermeasure to elude besides pff and run like a [censored]?

....

lolnrg/nrg

really, just don't bother.

anything not spines is garbage.

even if you roll with /sr. without a strong offensive and no inherent resists, a strong offensive will wreck even through the most powerful secondary.

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I dunno..ever since i14, anytime i have tried to use PFF to get out of a situation.. they always seem to be able to attack me through it... It may buy me a few seconds or take a few extra attacks to hit me..but its never made me untouchable in PvP.

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NDA BREAK NDA BREAK

i'm bringing a sonic/rad.

i tied for first on a fun round (the round after the actual official one) on an ice/rad corr back in i11 back then...

defenders are nigh useless right now with the exception of ff defenders (which still require you to pick a secondary with aim) and some storms (you're still better off on a storm troller).

dark defenders are still pretty horrible against capable players.


in regards to blasters: psy/em, sonic/em and fire/em. all else is garbage and you shouldn't bother with them.

welcome to i13.

best pvper in freedom/test/cox/wow.

post what you wanna use/roll in pvp and we'll give you alternatives and reasons.

thank you baby.

1. there's a huge difference between hitting a heat ex and hitting a drain psyche. a drain psyche requires both a to-hit check and for you to be in range, that's two things to keep track off. just by positioning myself adequately whenever i'm affectable, i can negate drain psyche.

2. ..and against sonic/em, psi/em, /elec dom or any other toon that can effectively control the tempo of a fight, an elec/therm will receive quite a beating. last time my /elec dom fought a therm the dude quit at minute 4 after i had effectively dodged half of his heat ex's and had 5 kills on him.

just ask trickz on his elec/therm on freedom.. he won't even entertain the idea of dueling under dr and ts on his elec/therm.

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Did you read Freedom AC?

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are you talking about that time me and justin were calling people retards for thinking they were ever gonna hit a good player with drain psyche?

d) not good.

...elec is pretty horrible in duels with DR. only high damage matters then (remember what all the experienced pvpers talked about during beta), and any top tier pvp build will be able to kill you before you kill them. that will disrupt any draining attempts with drain psyche.

in all sincerity, you'll do better TF-ing and bone smashing people with a fire/em, a psy/em or a sonic/em.

this toon will only work in a no dr setting where attrition still matters, and then, it will be either ridiculously underpowered against anyone fighting in a No TS setting (drain psyche is pretty hard to land against a competent opponent) or severely op'd against anyone not fighting in a ts no dr setting.