Zyphoid

As Task master can copy ANYONE's fighting style he has EVER seen, he can and has used a shield in the same manner as cap. I disagree, shields wound not all be cap rip offs.

As for EM on a scrapper, that would eb using PvP as an excuse to change the whole of the game by not giving EM to a scrapper. Funny, I could ahve sworn they said they would never do that. That is one of the reasons PvP has a crappy name in CoH

Yes.

If you want a jack of all trades Peace bringer fits the bill. No one ever said that you HAD to use the concept the devs gave us for them. You could easly build one and say it was a power armor toon. Still have to get to 50, but it's really not that hard unless you have bad altitis.

Know whats really funny? I never care what kind of dmg I am doing anyway. Seems to really only matter for PvP, or I ahve a pretty simple view of it all. So I have to attack one or two more times, more fighting yaaaa!

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I think the point of this post is enough with the weapons already. I hope that after DB, new powersets will be more mainstream heroish.

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The point of this post is that Super Heroes DON'T kill people, and that it's pretty much impossible to arrest someone using a pair of knives and NOT kill them.

I have no problem with CoV and dual blades, it fits the bad guy motif quite well, but CoH? Gimmie a break.

It's funny, I looked over my 2 servers full of heroes, and out of the "killer" weapons (katana, axe, broad sword, claws, mace, assault rifle) I have a grand total of 1 character. That being a lvl 1 katana using joke toon named "Wild Bill Kelso". So from my point of view, we already have 6 worthless, unusable powersets in CoH, why bother adding more?

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You left out Spines. There is very little chance that they survive being Impaled. When three 3-4ft long tubes go through a human torso, it tends to be bad. Oh, and the poision that goes with that

I liked the idea of billy clubs/escrima (Dare Devil, Nightwing sticks too. I thought the vote was for dual weapons not blades, but what ever. I am pretty happy with there being a dual weapon set comming.

In truth I am more excited about this issue than any in recent memory.

For those complaining about the lethal dmg aspect of it: There is still so much that can be done with the invention system. They could do rare Procs that add a perma type to an attack. That would be far cooler than doing a set based on it. And would add even more ED.

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I'd say there are more precedents for dual blade-wielding comic book characters than for clawed ones or hammer users. I can't think of any mace-users offhand, but there might be one.

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Yeah, about that. Other than Wolverine, is there even ONE other character in a comic book anywhere to use claws from the hands? I'm seriously asking here, because I don't know of any.

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Faust . I am pretty sure not many people have read it. I only found about it during the teen rebelion, Death metal phase of my live. They even made a movie about him.

Edit: Billz beat em to it. Impressed on him knowing that one.

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You mentioned Leotardo ... and the stupidest mutant concept EVER.
To me anyway.

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Did you read the orignal TMT? Or are you going on the crappy cartoon fromt the 80s and 90? There was nothing childish about the orginal TMT.

As for the OP, others before me have proven you wrong already, I will not bother.

Don't forget Silver Mantis and her awsome thorns/spines, and Mantacore's bow. I could go on, but my wife is calling me for dinner.

It is becoming a habit. I sometimes wounder if Lemur doesn't have an irrational hatred of PC.

I would rather them stick to the current model, and it be free. Now if the only way (which I don't thing it is) to get PC is a paid expansion I would do it.

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Sorry guys, just learning to survive with one 19 month old and one two week old! Hard to get free time...

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And a fortune in diaphers

Good job LemonLass!

Yea, I read all of those articles too, thanks for linking them LemonLass.

I like the sounds...

those = the mass of new posts on PC.

Would just be alot better consolidated in one thread.

Any one know why the changed the game so model and skin mods would not work? It is a serious question, no scarsm intended.

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Why should we let it drop? so they can sweep it under the rug and "forget" how important it was to so many people? No thanks. I would rather them remember, and be reminded constantly that we want it and how bad.

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The point I was making is that they already know how badly we want it. People wanted capes and wings just as badly, and they didn't need to be reminded daily about that. Hell, they even managed to give us wings in a *far* better manner than they initially thought.

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I ahve said pretty much the same thing in other threads. I guess I am just tired of seeing the under dogs get picked on

I do think they are working on it, human nature (mine anyway) is if something is hard for me to work at it harder. I am sure we will see it in time, I have said as much. I just don't see anything wrong with people posting on it.

I would prefer all of those posts to be in ONE thread, but it is not always going to happen that way.

For me PC means custom power colors and weapn models. i think custom animation is too much.

I will also admit that longer load times would make a large part of the populace poop gold bricks the size of a cow. I am just not one of them

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I don't think that it won't fit in the game engine. They HAVE implemented changes to colors. It is the time factor that is the hump to overcome. If, perhaps, the armachair designers postulated theories about how to cut production time, that might be productive. They know how to implement PC. They just don't know how to do it quickly.


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You're forgetting the other big hurdle to PC, Information Propagation. The reworking of the effects is the biggest hurdle, but it is by no means the only big hurdle.

When Issue 8 came out, a lot of people were spontaneously disconnecting on teams. As far as we can tell, it was happening because they had made a change that increased the amount of data being sent back and forth between players. Just one small change in the way the client/server passes data back and forth led to regular crashes.

PC would lead to a large increase in the amount of data being passed. Instead of shorthand that says "this guy has these 6 powersets, you know what those all look like go to town" the programmers need to come up with a way to pass that specific color info for each and every different power someone customizes, to every other player that can see it. If they do the bulk of it when someone loads into a zone, then you're looking at longer load times. And then they still have to pass fresh data when someone new comes in. If they do it dynamically there's a lot more data flying around. You think a Bots/FF can cause graphical slowdown now? Just wait until each rank of robot has custom blast colors, altered looks, and all the bubbles are customized for a Skittles Rainbow.

One of the strongpoints of the game is the speed of combat even when several players are around. Not just PvP, but PvE. Tinkering with that for the sake of new shininess alone is a dangerous Pandora's Box.

This is the crux of it: People who want this look at the issue with rose colored glasses, and consistently minimize the difficulties. I don't say that to be insulting, but it's obvious. People who are ambivalent to it (like me) look at it pragmatically, and can see a lot of the problems, and make the decision (for ourselves) that it probably wouldn't be good for the game.

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I can only speak for myself, but I have no problem with longer load times. Thats just me though, I know some would, I have also thought of the passing of info as a problem, just one I would be willing to deal with

Why should we let it drop? so they can sweep it under the rug and "forget" how important it was to so many people? No thanks. I would rather them remember, and be reminded constantly that we want it and how bad.

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Please someone send a PM to the powers that be that like to ignore me...
and get them to LOCK all other threads about power customization plz..

plz plz plz.

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Or combine them.

Good, maybe more people will post on it, in THIS thread I hope

Every thing you said about the PB is dead on. I really like the suggestion of on of the first two choices being changed to a melee attack. I play my human form PB much like I do a sccrapper. Also I love LD, But I would like it to be knock up rather than back. I hope the devs see this and say something.

You guys are right there are lots of blades already in the game, but no dual blades. I would like to see dual energy blades Like Psylocke from the X-men. This would give those of us lusting over dual wepons and those wanting something that is not lethal dmg what we want!

Also second I would have voted for street fighting, if I had read the instructions

For Def I went for Willpower because it sounded different.
Later,
Zyph