Another_Fan

Some people really do give 110%

I can but you probably won't like the guesses. Most insp use I have seen in this game is combining them to make awakens after defeat, after that its greens and blues as Oh Sh** buttons.

Anyway the above is distracting, because in your example keeping the luck insps around is not compared to the value of having other inspirations around.

Pot meet kettle ?


There really is no fun in making fanbois look silly. They were there first and usually do a much better job than anyone else can. I mean look in this thread you have people posting pictures of one days load to say "LOOK WE HAVE POPULATION THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS". You can't mock that more than it mocks itself.

As to the rest I'd really rather not see city of heroes go. It has a few features that I really enjoy, excellent movement , the world as a three space that really works for me, no invisible walls that make no sense and destroy any sense of immersion you might have had. It's more than a little annoying to see the game perpetually amplify its weaknesses and play down its strengths. Some of that seems to stem from fitting the game play to the analysis tools they have handy.

Prophetic Slashman.

And Schismatrix I have made suggestions and pointed out actions by the Developers which do drive players away. Unfortunately the cult of the developers is heavily entrenched here and when anyone points out that no doing X is really not a great Idea, the response is doom, so what if they go away, the game is fine, etc etc.

And geez if somebody pointing out that there is feces on the sidewalk is enough to antagonize and send them into a tizzy they need to get away from the game and get to a therapist.

We ?

I was pointing out that some people have an incredible ability to ignore the elephant in the room. Whats more they think if they talk about how great the furniture is no one else will notice.

Other people who have long ranted on how population decline isn't happening and the people that complain about it aren't doing things right seem to be offended by reality.

I have very little idea what the setpoint of normal is. I have been on teams where mine has been the only buffbar showing insps and the dead people have full insp trays. In beta there were people that thought it laughable that I could keep my brute near the damage cap solo, turns out they hadn't integrated the concept of using macros to make insps into their play.

Umbral has simply stated his position as fact without justifying it. He then goes on to use assumptions that further justify his position. Just looking at his setpoint he is working with a fully saturated AAO all the time. My position is that shield defense has a tremendous ability to benefit from large amounts of inf spent on it that sr doesn't match


AOE for a blaster is outstanding as long as no bosses are involved. I suspect the difficulty that some ATs had hanging in the fight was why the no bosses option was included in the difficulty settings.


This is going to wind up a how you level vs how I level. lets leave it at this what you may consider a good performance, what I consider a good performance, what someone else considers good performance are all different things. I will say that the relative performance of my blasters to scrappers inverts about the time scrappers get mez protection and then dips further about the time endurance issues are resolved on the scrapper. Some sets may enjoy a renaisance but even when they do its only against carefully selected enemies within narrow difficulty ranges

Our impressions of the rate of this happening differ. I see this as the overwhelming majority of task forces I participate on. It is at the point where I don't even note it as being exceptional but the other cases are very memorable.

That is pretty much the way many TFs are going now. STF would have that but ghost widow makes large amounts of melee less desirable.

Citadel,Manticore, Numina, ITF are all being run in a similar manner and I have seen Master of Khans virtually soloed at high speed by tanks the team being mostly superfluous except for the final encounter.

Its not a really good situation for the game. I have to think the HVMs are an attempt to devalue speed tfing but that is a little like Ben Tre destroying the game to save it.

Read what I said. Specifically the blaster paper AOE advantage is undercut by other limitations. I didn't say can't I said they don't get as much out of them. When you start talking about having to pull and team to use them effectively, it only reinforces the point.

So true.

That was Kranik and I don't recall if he did it with no deaths and scrapper rules (no temps no insps). I am guessing that the OP is operating under the no temps no insps constraint.

And blasters never have to fight single hard targets ? I don't want to poke you on this but that is nearly as bad as Umbrals assumption that AAO runs flat out all the time, and there is no other source of plus damage available.

The superior AOE ability is a bit of a canard. While some blaster sets are superior in number of aoe powers much of that has to be factored out. Most blaster nukes are not particularly viable and have such long recharge times even if you can bypass their problems you couldn't use them often enough. The other nominal advantage of blaster AOE is that its large, well when you are on an at that can pull the enemies into melee range and survive to fire off the AOEs that advantage is considerably reduced. The inability of blasters to lead with AOEs when spawns contain mezzers also detracts from this.

When you grow up, you may learn that the person making the assertion has the burden of proving it. You haven't even given anyone a reason to think your assumptions are valid except repeating yourself over and over again

By that logic everything is fantastic all you need is two medium inspirations. Grab a Kora Fruit mission and fill your global mail with them.

Blasters got a new primary as well so its a bit of a push. ( I know they got a keeper and blasters are looking for the receipt for theirs)

Didn't see it but that was a godawful long thread.

I'm just upset that blasters aren't getting shadowmeld the way were supposed to.

I saw your numbers how many grey rikti monkeys did you have surrounding you when you did that ?

Until you can global mail packs of grey con enemies to fuel Souldrain and Against all odds that isnt relevant.

What is more worrisome is that the average to typical numbers in that thread were comparable to average blaster numbers and that is a problem. If the people complaining were serious about balance they would be looking at how to address the giant problems.

Sure if you read umbrals post he directs me to Arcanavilles spreadsheet ranking the armors with various options turned on.


Those columns is the output sorted by rank relative to invulnerability for 30 seconds and 60 seconds.

Math is great fun so is reading so just taking your advice.

Oh look there's shields solidly below SR

What was the question here "Is SR obsolete ?" Looking at this guess not.

Well that's the 30 maybe it does better at 60
It seems to be behind fire here.

Maybe blasters just need a big box that pops up when you go to make them saying don't play except on teams.

Would that be the same Castle who said he didn't see AAO as a problem or that big a buff ?

Trades lower survivability for more damage to kill things faster. So apparently Scrappers as an AT trading lower survivability than tanks in order to kill things faster is OK.

I'd love to see the numbers where you actually computed that out, taking equivalent cost builds based on market pricing and comparing their performance across the board. As I said at the beginning SD's greatest power is to absorb inf.

So applying that logic either scrappers need a big damage nerf or blasters need a big damage buff. After all if you can build a scrapper to the point where it can survive virtually any spawn the game throws at you (The general meaningful limit for survivability) they shouldn't be able to do near blaster levels of damage.

If there is a problem here its not SD vs SR its that the entire scrapper AT has its balance points to high.

Wonder why that logic fails when it comes to blaster survivability.

Shield charge isn't needed for that. There are plenty of scrapper builds that can solo 95% of taskforces and will do so. If you want fun play a squishy on a speed tf with heavily twinked out scrappers. Its either build to ghost or stay back we will call you when we get to the AV/GM.

When you say the blaster can clear the riff raff out faster you have to ask what is it taking to do that and does it matter. The blaster isn't doing that on their own, they do that with the aid of the rest of the team. The blaster is going to need the tank to concentrate aggro and or a defender to back them up. There are a few powersets that are exceptions. Assault rifle/Archery/Fire all put out enough AOE that they come close to being survival through superior fire power. This breaks down on spawns with bosses where what a blaster has to do survive reduces their effectiveness far below scrappers.

The -Regen from drain psyche was incredible, I know many blasters in the game that went without stamina and operated entirely off of a high recharge drain psych. I say was because now its available as a temp power that anyone can have and as an offensive attack envenomed dagger is better.


Agreed it was admittedly a quicky build that I didn't bother to optimize, but I believe you are wrong about its need for a tonne of blues. Dark Consumption is up every 48 seconds and only needs to 4 targets to completely replenish end. As long as you have enough end to fire off the dark consume at the end of 48 seconds your end use doesn't matter. The point of the build was to illustrate that SR can go in other ways and do other things that shield def wouldn't be able to touch

I have to agree, for me its been like watching people argue over the arrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic.