_Spirit

Says 2.5% base in my planner. Meh.

Yup. In PvE that's great, as 90% of the time I'm on the ground.

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soz, instead of tank/troller, put brute/dom or other aggro builds.

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Brute != Tank.
Dom != Controller.

Sure, a brute will possibly take an alpha, do you expect him to be a taunt-bot for you?
And a dom uses their secondary too which, unlike controllers, doesn't normally help with the control/support.

Just sayin'.

But yeah, <3 Fireball.

Well, of all the toggles, only Lightning field is end heavy, but I don't think you'd use that for PvP. The others drain 0.1 to 0.13 EPS(I think it's EPS), so that's quite good.

3 slotted, you get 41.3% res to all but energy, neg, and toxic. Energy gets to 97.2%, neg is at 35.4%, and you don't get any toxic res except in Power Surge.
If you add tough into the mix, that's a good 59% s/l res. Not bad, eh? With Power Surge, you're pretty much capped for all but psi and toxic. Psi stays at 41.3%, while toxic gets 41.3% res. I like these numbers.

The bad point, of course, is no self heal. Aid self I find good, slotted with interrupt reducers.

As for kb protect, in PvE grounded is more than enough, however in PvP you'll be chasing people alot, most likely in the air, so I'd reccomend Acro, if you can fit it. Lightning reflexes is ace for getting your powers to recharge faster, about a DO's worth of recharge I think. Only skippable powers, in my opinion, are lightning field, Grounded(if you get acro), and conserve power. Power Sink can get you end when you're toe-to-toe with someone, so long as they don't run away.

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hmm well defence is pretty much capped, or close to it with 8 maneuvers on any defender superteam anyway

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With 8 people, that's 20%def, and 3 slotted, all of them, 31.2% def. Don't look like near the cap to me

AM has no status protection. That's status resist, doesn't stop you getting mezzed. Besides, the only reason for doing this is not because it's t3h l337, but to show empaths can do more than just heal. Or to fail showing that. Plus, empathy will mean we get lots of regen, too.

Something like this good for empath/psi?
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Empathy
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Healing Aura==> Heal(1) Heal(3) Heal(7) Rechg(15)
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc(1) Dmg(9) Dmg(37)
02) --> Subdue==> Acc(2) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(9)
04) --> Heal Other==> Heal(4) Heal(5) Heal(7) EndRdx(15)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Clear Mind==> Rechg(8)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) Rechg(11)
12) --> Fortitude==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13) TH_Buf(43) TH_Buf(46) TH_Buf(46)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)Empty(23)
16) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc(16) Dmg(17) Dmg(17) Dmg(23)
18) --> Recovery Aura==> Rechg(18) Rechg(19) Rechg(19) EndMod(40)
20) --> Will Domination==> Acc(20) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Dmg(25) Rechg(34)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22)
24) --> Assault==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25)
26) --> Regeneration Aura==> Rechg(26) Rechg(27) Rechg(27) Heal(33) Heal(34) Heal(34)
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc(28) Dmg(29) Dmg(29) Dmg(31) Rechg(31) EndRdx(31)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30)
32) --> Adrenalin Boost==> Rechg(32) Rechg(33) Rechg(33)
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc(35) Rechg(36) DisDur(36) DisDur(36) DisDur(37) Rechg(37)
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Oppressive Gloom==> Acc(41) Acc(42) EndRdx(42) EndRdx(42) DisDur(43) DisDur(43)
44) --> Dark Embrace==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) EndRdx(45) EndRdx(46)
47) --> Soul Drain==> Acc(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
49) --> Dark Consumption==> Acc(49) Rechg(50) Rechg(50) EndMod(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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So, what would the essential primary picks be for an offensive empath team?

I think Heartbreaker sounds pretty cool

I'm in for it

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My favourite Offender conept had to be the Rad/* Offender who let their teammates die so they could cast Vengeance and then go to town with Fallout. As such, you could Radient Aura. Something about being able to heal but choosing not to is just really creepy for a Defender - especially if you don't tell the PUG you just joined why I heard a team of 8 such folks could lay waste to pretty much anything, but that was before (and probably why!) they made Vengeance unstackable. I never got to try that build out myself

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I've always wanted to do a themed offender team. If anyone else wants to try the whole 8 xrad/rad I would SO love to try this. I think rad/rad would be the best thing to have 8 of because EF+AM+Leadership alone, on all 8 people pretty much provides you with all the defence, accuracy, damage, stamina, recharge and status protection you could ever wish for.

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Why /rad? Other secondaries would be equally/more useful.

Wow, so now there's the idea of an all emp/ offender team?

Crazy people.

Do I smell an all offender team brewing? I see a couple people talking about rolling... 'em.

Zomg teh all */psi Blasting squadz0rz!

Build, take 2!
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Kinetics
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1)Heal(3)Heal(3)Heal(9)
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc(1)Dmg(15)Dmg(37)Dmg(43)
02) --> Subdue==> Acc(2)Dmg(13)Dmg(15)Dmg(17)
04) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(4)Rechg(5)Rechg(5)Rechg(11)
06) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(6)Acc(7)Rechg(7)Rechg(9)Rechg(11)
08) --> Psionic Lance==> Acc(8)Dmg(34)Dmg(42)Range(43)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(12)EndMod(13)EndMod(46)
14) --> Swift==> Run(14)
16) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc(16)Dmg(17)Dmg(19)Dmg(19)
18) --> Inertial Reduction==> Jump(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Will Domination==> Acc(22)Dmg(23)Dmg(23)Dmg(25)Rechg(43)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(37)
26) --> Transference==> Acc(26)Acc(27)Rechg(27)EndMod(29)EndMod(31)EndMod(34)
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc(28)Dmg(29)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Rechg(40)EndRdx(40)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30)
32) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)Rechg(34)
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc(35)Rechg(36)DisDur(36)DisDur(36)DisDur(37)Rechg(46)
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Acc(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Rechg(40)
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)EndRdx(45)EndRdx(46)
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)EndRdx(50)
49) --> Repel==> EndRdx(49)EndRdx(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Soo... would a build like this work?

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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Kinetics
Secondary: Psychic Blast
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01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1)Heal(3)Heal(3)Heal(5)Acc(42)
01) --> Mental Blast==> Acc(1)
02) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(2)Rechg(23)Rechg(23)Rechg(25)Acc(34)
04) --> Subdue==> Acc(4)Dmg(5)Dmg(9)Dmg(15)
06) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(6)Rechg(7)Rechg(7)Rechg(9)Acc(15)
08) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(8)
10) --> Psychic Scream==> Acc(10)Dmg(11)Dmg(11)Range(13)Dmg(37)Range(43)
12) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(12)EndMod(13)EndMod(43)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Telekinetic Blast==> Acc(16)Dmg(17)Dmg(17)Dmg(19)
18) --> Hasten==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(40)
20) --> Will Domination==> Acc(20)Dmg(21)Dmg(21)Dmg(25)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22)EndRdx(46)EndRdx(46)
24) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(24)
26) --> Transference==> Acc(26)Rechg(27)EndMod(27)EndMod(29)EndMod(29)Rechg(34)
28) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc(28)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Dmg(31)Rechg(37)Rechg(43)
30) --> Increase Density==> EndRdx(30)
32) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(32)Acc(33)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)Rechg(34)Dmg(40)
35) --> Scramble Thoughts==> Acc(35)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)DisDur(36)DisDur(37)
38) --> Psychic Wail==> Rechg(38)Rechg(39)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)Acc(40)
41) --> Power Build Up==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(44)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)EndRdx(45)EndRdx(46)
47) --> Total Focus==> Acc(47)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
49) --> Repel==> EndRdx(49)EndRdx(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty(1)
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Is stam not needed on kin/psi?

Hmmm, seeing as I've already got a kin controller, I may tip towards storm.

The thing is, if I went for, say, FF/, would the time freed up for me to blast be worth it? Like, would I even be able to do noticable damage?

Or they might pull a "Decieve" on us

... no idea as to what primary though. I'm looking at kin or storm at the moment. I'm mainly PvE. I'm thinking of kin, so I can pump out some nice fast damage/buffs, but at the same time storm looks like it can give me a pack of great tools.

Advice?

Yeah, I will always carry a respite or two, but in most situations, 2 DO intreds is doing me fine. Just as long as my team knows i am NOT the tank, especially as I have no AoEs/taunt auras. I'll possibly take the alphas, aid self as soon as most of the DoT stops, and watch the agro spread as I beat on the boss/lieuts or whatever.

I was thinking of LR before Rage, simply because I have so few attacks, it helps to chain them better.
Anyway, latest build in my head atm.
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Jab==> Empty(1)
01) --> Charged Armor==> Empty(1)
02) --> Haymaker==> Empty(2)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> Empty(4)
06) --> Hurdle==> Empty(6)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Empty(8)
10) --> Static Shield==> Empty(10)
12) --> Stimulant==> Empty(12)
14) --> Aid Self==> Empty(14)
16) --> Grounded==> Empty(16)
18) --> Health==> Empty(18)
20) --> Stamina==> Empty(20)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Empty(22)
24) --> Rage==> Empty(24)
26) --> Boxing==> Empty(26)
28) --> Tough==> Empty(28)
30) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(30)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Empty(32)
35) --> Power Sink==> Empty(35)
38) --> Power Surge==> Empty(38)
41) --> Lightning Field==> Empty(41)
44) --> Electrifying Fences==> Empty(44)
47) --> Hand Clap==> Empty(47)
49) --> Super Jump==> Empty(49)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Well, aid self is handy, seing as /elec doesn't have a self heal, and with 2 intrrupt reds(3 at a push), I can pull it fine under heavy DoT on other chars.
On rage, may swap it with grounded. And I will be on the ground most of the time, it's just I'll be using hurdle to get around

Okay, I'm currently building my SS/elec, level 11 atm. I'm skipping my travel power until 41, which is fine, I can do fine with just hurdle Now, I'm unsure on the order for a few powers. These are Aid Self, Grounded, Health, and Rage. Health I definatly need to have before 20 (For stamina), and I want a self heal at the moment. Will I need it anymore with health? It doesn't boost much, so I think so, but what of Grounded and Rage? Is that kb protection essential, or can I sacrifice it for more damage? Bearing in mind, rage won't come into it's own until SOs, when it can be perma'd.
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Punch==> Empty(1)
01) --> Charged Armor==> Empty(1)
02) --> Haymaker==> Empty(2)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> Empty(4)
06) --> Hurdle==> Empty(6)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> Empty(8)
10) --> Static Shield==> Empty(10)
12) --> Aid Other==> Empty(12)
14) --> Aid Self==> Empty(14)
16) --> Health==> Empty(16)
18) --> Grounded==> Empty(18)
20) --> Stamina==> Empty(20)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Empty(22)
24) --> Rage==> Empty(24)
26) --> Boxing==> Empty(26)
28) --> Tough==> Empty(28)
30) --> Combat Jumping==> Empty(30)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> Empty(32)
35) --> Power Sink==> Empty(35)
38) --> Power Surge==> Empty(38)
41) --> Super Jump==> Empty(41)
44) --> Weave==> Empty(44)
47) --> Lightning Field==> Empty(47)
49) --> Gloom==> Empty(49)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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Thoughts? Not put my slots down, confident in those.

TA/Psi even more uber now?

Love for psi

Discuss/Jump for Joy!

I made a /psi defender on test, and found mental blast actually fast, compared to how it used to be!