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I have the tech for the temporary fix for account issues while they sort things out in the background. It's so cutting edge people may not have thought of applying it to an accounts issue:



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Going Rogue is already mine and it is available to premiums as a purchase, so I won't have to go w/o it
Time Manipulation is already mine ans is available on the market
Epic Archetypes are already mine and are available
Server slots are available on the market

It doesn't seem like I would be missing out on all that much if I spend my annual sub on points instead of a sub. I'd get what? About 15000 pts in a lump?

Which is what for a tier 9? honest question

incarnates
exalted

and what else?

I never did either. ymmv.

I understand this.
Thank you for taking the time to reply. It's a nice thing that you didn't have to do.

What I am saying is that I will not have received ALL of them until then when the last bit of awarded thingies arrives.

Both if the post from Zwil which is quoted in the OP is correct.

I should be more clear and point out that I am talking about the difference between a sub and buying points with the sub money instead.

Seems you're saying the same thing I said which is what you said wasn't true. I won't have all of the things until April. Before then I will only have some of them. I am not sure why you would say it's not true and then demonstrate exactly how it is true.

Yet again I didn't say what you think I am saying. I said that I wouldn't have them ALL until then.

Except when they said that they would give us all of our pre-paid stuff up front. One of the redname posts that affirms this in posted in the OP that you read at the beginning of this thread.
But it's really neither here nor there.

Which I would receive immediately and be able to enjoy from that point on for the duration. So those points would grant me more play time with the items I purchase. More play time = more value

You're talking about a different topic than I am.

It's not nonsense. You're just arguing against something other than what I am talking about. I s'pose you're not reading my posts.

I paid my subscription in March. I will not see all of the points, etc that I have coming until the beginning of next April. If my math is correct, between now and April, there're exactly several months. If I had paid that money today I would be given all of my various things immediately.
Because of that difference in the delivery date, the money spent today would garner more value than the money spent in March.

I am quite literally not. You're thinking that I am addressing an issue that I am not addressing.

If you will re-read my posts you'll see that you're addressing something other than what I am talking about.

However, I am glad that you're taking the time to respond even if it's to something I am not saying.

I explained it earlier.

Points etc don't bring any value until I can enjoy the items I bought with them.
I have paid for points that I cannot spend yet.
I cannot begin enjoying the value of those points until after I spend them. So there's a period of months between the time I paid my money and when I can begin enjoying the benefits of what I purchased.

If I spent the same amount of money now instead of earlier, I would be given the points etc immediately and I could enjoy the value from now forward instead of having to wait several months.

Since I would have months more time to enjoy what I purchased, I would have months more value.

Yes, please. I would like the money that I paid to bring me the same value as the money that people are paying in now.

Too much work for a company to figure out how to make more money through creative marketing?
That's a new one.
I mean, it may not be true that they're intentionally trying to increase their income by doing certain things in certain ways, but it's not an unreasonable question.

I have heard that the devs do't let the marketing team do coding and that the marketing teams is touchy about the devs making marketing moves.
so, it's possible they have worked out some sort of division of labor that allows marketing to focus on market while the devs are concurrently developing new content.

The game may not be engaging marketing practices that are found in other areas of this industry. But if they are not, it's not because it's too much work.

When will technical difficulties work out in our favor?

The issue was whether or not they would do weird things with obfuscation pay structures etc to maximize profits or if that was merely paranoia.

I don't think anyone questioned that they want to make money.

I am still not getting it. I still see value in the sets that I have even though I have some 50s of those sets.

I understand about having a certain period of time, but I just don't understand why the time would be shorter than an outlier time for getting to 50.

Because I see the value of a powerset to be greater than merely arriving at 50, I would be fine if the time period were set to be just over the average time to 50 so that you can really try a set out.

Of course, I'd be fine with 30 min as well.

What about it? What's your question? Can you restate it?

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Tokens for buying stuff are awarded immediately.

how does the time to 50 factor in?
I don't get that.

That issue really isn't mine.

The only thing close to that particular issue I have is that it seems unnecessarily complicated. Unnecessary complications in monetary systems ... well they tend to be dodgy. So I have become suspicious.


But, if you notice, my main issue has been the fact that I won't get as much from my money as I would have if I hadn't given it to the game already--not because it's gone on sale subsequently or something similar, but simply because the company won't deliver the goods to me as quickly. I am talking about the delay in delivering the points from the subscription I have already paid for.

It seems like a counter-intuitive way for a business to treat me.

The assertion by the reps that we will get our stuff on bill date and that they are working to get us stuff on bill date. I think that's where anyway.

Yeah, one of those rep posts is quoted in the OP you read.

Yeah.
I am reaching a point where I am not sure if I want to MMO. So a little nudge one way or another may be enough for me.

Depending on how all of this shakes out, I may or may not re-up my sub when it comes up next year. I'll be tier 9 when it expires, so I don't lose anything and can keep playing indefinitely w/ only some modification.

I can say from past experience with me that I am willing to go through irrational lengths to support businesses I like and to avoid giving money to businesses I do not like.

You're easily amazed. I spend time on some political forums, so maybe my bar for what constitutes amazing paranoia has gotten off kilter.

I to have suspected that some of the snafu is a marketing ploy. Not that I have familiarity with the games marketers, but I have heard tell of other marketers behavior.

fyi "have suspected" is different from "do think"

The number of points IS the same. That is true. But that's not the issue. Points are worthless until I spend them and then use the purchased item in game. Using the purchased items is the value. The more time I have with the purchased item, the more time I have to gain value from having it. Conversely, the less time I have with it, the less time I have to gain value from it.

Am I the only one who remembers the threads about GR being included in some bundle for free?
The argument was that the people who purchased GR for full price got the value of having it the whole time to play.
Not faster than someone who drops the exact same amount of money on points today. They have their points awarded in just a few moments, not strung out over several months.

Yeah, I don't think that analogy works very well at all.