Archimedes

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I still say if they're going to make us a damage-only AT, give us Tanker/Brute secondaries.

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*snicker*

*snort*

*points*

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Yeah, someone here wants God mode.

lol Bose

Anyone that uses ICP to make a CoH video wins points in my book. But beyond that, this video kicked butt!

JUGALOO, <censored>!! \m/ \m/

Cool, I like it! Very stylized.

Very nicely done!

Hmm. I think he's regressed.

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Ctab: Are you an astrophysicist?
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Oh, and by the way...

Watch out for Thor's Assassin. I'm sure he'll be by shortly to ask for a commission.

Rowr too, and maybe even Katfood as well.







*Hibernates*

Looks pretty good! And welcome to the art forums.

*cough* To get this thread back on track...

Bloody Tears showing off her stolen, bloodied wings.
City Huntress demonstrating the invent emote while sporting her new split-tailed trench.

Given that these types of personalized items would be decorative, it's probably already covered; but I'll update my list just the same.

At this point, I feel that perhaps a summary of some of the suggestions that have been brought forth might help the devs figure out what it is that we'd like to see; if it's condensed into one spot, it would make for ease of reading. If I miss any, please feel free to PM me so that I can update the list.

<ul type="square">[*]Lower/eliminate rent, with a corresponding change in Prestige cost for base items.[*]On a similar note, decorative base items (including personalized items (see below) should be much cheaper.[*]Add personal space to the SGs, payable with influence/infamy, or give the option to purchase a personal apartment and furnish it with basic useability.[*] Add inexpensive, cool social functionality (such as SG missions, danger room, Arena terminals, etc)[*]Add items where we can add flavor text, to allow us to explain the concepts behind the base's design.[*]Allow bases to be public by selection of an option in the SG interface, so that those of us that wish to showcase our designs can do so.[*]Fix the SG base boot bug. (Personal note: I'd say the way to fix this would be to seperate the virtual spaces used for outdoor instances, arena maps, and SG bases into seperate spaces, to remove the overlap.)[*]Allow us to use some of the tilesets that are available in the mission tilesets.[*]More options for base design, including the ability to create multiple levels within the base itself.[*] Personal items that are truly personalized, in a way that identifies to whom it belongs as well as tying into the character in a personal way.[/list]

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1. The devs need to commit to a deadline for all future tasks. Tell me when this fix or that fix will be implemented, and assure me that whatever needs to be done to achieve will be done. If you (the devs) can keep to a schedule like that, then faith in the dev team will be restored.

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As someone that works with computers and does a little dabbling of programming on the side, I feel that this isn't the most reasonable of requests. Just because someone comes up with an idea doesn't mean that the current engine can be made to support it; or if it can, how long it'll take to get the idea working without making something else break in the process.

*whew* Cool, glad to hear!

Glad to help, Graver. Though I'm sorry for all the work you'll end up doing to correct this.

I really dig this but...

There's just something about it that doesn't quite sit well with me.

I think it's the way that her left shoulder (to our right) is higher than her right, but yet her chest is level? Wouldn't having her bent sideways like that tend to cause her chest to shift in that direction as well? I know that corsets are fairly rigid, but... even so, it just doesn't seem like that rigidity is shown. The effect (to me) is that her upper body is out of proportion to her shoulders and hips.

I hope I'm not confusing anyone here.

It looks like Ghost Widow is patting Ivy's hair, much like the way an owner will pat their pet. Fitting given the context of the piece.

Of course you are! You pay them in se-

*head explodes*

Heh, guess I wasn't very clear, my bad.

I meant fantasy movies, since other than the LotR trilogy, every other fantasy movie has bombed pretty badly in the box office.

And I don't see any inconsistencies here. When they hold these costume or artwork contests, part of rules are that the images become property of NCSoft (to be used for advertising images and the like). Therefore, they retain control of the images. Fan art, on the other hand, is out of their control (unless they've given permission; in that case, they'll most likely want to see the image themselves or have an accurate description of how the artwork will look before anything is decided).

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The reason that this forum doesn't get a lot of attention is the same reason that the mods frown upon prices being discussed:

Technically, they're treading a very fine line in even having this forum here.

For all sakes and purposes fan art is often done without the permission of the party that owns the original pieces, and the same goes true for any commisions done for characters in this game. Just read the EULA.

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Another reason Blizzard is loved by their players...

Blizzard actually encourages fan art- for profit or not.

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Given that most of the character races in WoW are pretty ubiquitous, and the rather limited options as far as costume creation goes, that's no real surprise. And unlike most of the big comic-book companies, there's not much money to be made in fantasy (Lord of the Rings notwithstanding). There's not as many characters that people are going to try and copy, and I wouldn't doubt that the obvious few are constantly being purged by Blizzard.

What benefit does it give directly to NCSoft and/or Cryptic to allow people to create derivitives of objects made within the costume creator? It all comes down to the bottom line.

At least with a contest, they can advertise it and get people interested just by virtue of someone wanted a shot at the prizes. But just putting artwork out there just to do it? Isn't that what started the mess with Marvel and their lawsuit in the first place?

That's probably a path that neither company wants to revisit again.

Actually, any time that they hold a contest where that involves creating costumes or artwork, they're explicitly giving permission to use our character's images.

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(b) Rights in Content. You acknowledge that NC Interactive and its related Game Content Providers (“Game Content Providers”) have rights in their respective Game Content under copyright and other applicable laws, and that you accept full responsibility and liability for your use of any Game Content in violation of any such rights. NC Interactive and its related Game Content Providers grant to Members the right to use the Game Content for noncommercial, personal purposes, including in connection with creating noncommercial fan fiction or fan web sites regarding the same. However, you acknowledge and agree that you shall not reproduce, prepare derivative works based upon, distribute, publicly perform, or transmit any Game Content for commercial uses without first obtaining the express written consent of NC Interactive.

For clarification purposes only, “derivative works based upon” Game Content are works which are substantially similar, both in ideas and expression, to the Game Content. Similarity of ideas in the Game Content and derivative works concern similarities between things such as plot, theme, mood, setting, appearance, and character traits. Similarity of expression concerns the total concept and feel of the Game Content and the derivative works. Thus, if a work created by a Member or someone other than NC Interactive (or its related Game Content Providers) is likely to bring to mind the Game Content, then it is likely that such work is a derivative work of the Game Content, and as such may not be used for commercial purposes.

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Paragraph 6, sections a and b of the NCSoft End User License Agreement (EULA), with the bolded part added to show what I mean.

As for why they don't just do that? Perhaps the same reason that Marvel, DC, and every other comic book company so rigorously defends their IPs; if they let them fall into common use, then they lose the trademark. With trademark and copyright laws being so murky, perhaps they're taking the safe approach and just not supporting it?

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Yet the new &lt;comic company name that shall not be said here&gt; game that was just released actually put out a bulletin requesting fan art.

There's a way around it if a company so desires I gather.


/shrug

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That's not going around it there. Right there, the company is giving explicit permission to create this artwork.

With the art created here, I highly doubt that most people are sending e-mails to Cryptic and/or NCSoft asking for permission to have artwork done, or is having Cryptic and/or NCSoft contacted players out of the blue giving them this permission.

The reason that this forum doesn't get a lot of attention is the same reason that the mods frown upon prices being discussed:

Technically, they're treading a very fine line in even having this forum here.

For all sakes and purposes fan art is often done without the permission of the party that owns the original pieces, and the same goes true for any commisions done for characters in this game. Just read the EULA.

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I'm going to laminate my computer.

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*laminates Foo's forehead, and then rips the laminate back off again*