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iTrial build for MA/SD

Eldorado

By Eldorado,
Posted on: 2012-08-09 19:08 in Scrappers

 

Posted

Ok, though I had a pretty decent build... I'm at or near softcap with my positional defenses, T3 or T4 in all incarnate powers.

However, I'm finding that turning on Against All Odds against any of the iTrial AVs is instant death. ( or running in a trial where none of the tanks or brutes are making any effort to hold aggro ) Marauder, Siege, any of them flatten me with just 1 hit - I'm not even talking about special attacks like Marauder's pile driver.
No, I'm not a tank, but it would be nice to be able to take the occasional hit.

Would appreciate any suggestions for toughening this up:


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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg:40(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg:40(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(5), T'Death-Dam%:40(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), LkGmblr-Def:50(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(11)
Level 2: Cobra Strike -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(13), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), Mako-Dam%:50(17)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(17), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(19), Krma-ResKB:13(19)
Level 6: Fly -- Zephyr-ResKB:50(A)
Level 8: Crane Kick -- SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SScrappersS-Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SScrappersS-Rchg/+Crit:50(21), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(23), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), OvForce-Dam/KB:50(25)
Level 10: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(25), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Numna-Heal:50(27), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(29), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(31), RechRdx-I:50(31)
Level 14: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 16: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A)
Level 18: Focus Chi -- GSFC-ToHit:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(33), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(33), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(33), GSFC-Build%:50(34)
Level 20: Crippling Axe Kick -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mako-Dam%:50(36)
Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(37), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(37), Aegis-ResDam:50(39)
Level 26: Dragon's Tail -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), Oblit-%Dam:50(40)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 30: Against All Odds -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 32: Eagles Claw -- Hectmb-Dmg:50(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Hectmb-Dam%:50(45), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(45)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(45), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), Oblit-%Dam:50(48)
Level 38: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I:50(A)
Level 47: One with the Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(A)
Level 49: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I:50(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(48), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg:50(48), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(50), P'Shift-EndMod:50(50), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(50)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Posted

Couple of points tyhat jump out at me from casual perusal of the build:

You're not soft-capped to AoE.

You're not soft-capped to any position if you turn Stealth off (not sure about when it is merely suppressed). Do you fight with Stealth on?

You have 3 knockback protection IOs slotted. Shield doesn't need any additional -knb if you run Active Defense constantly, unless there's some reason specific to the iTrials I don't know about.

Speaking of Active Defense, you have a Membrane Exposure HO in there, for 33% recharge bonus. I think they removed the effect Membranes had on Active Defense's DDR, so all it's giving you is 33% recharge -- you'd get over 42% from a lvl 50 common recharge IO.

You can hit the ED cap to recharge with only two lvl 50 common recharge IOs if you use +4 Enhancement Boosters to each. A few boosters are available to high-tier Paragon Rewards vets for free, otherise you have to buy them, I think; but the ability to save a slot in every power I normally 3-slot for recharge (Hasten, Build Up, Aim, Tar Patch, and so on) is so good I sometimes use them anyway.

That's really just tidbits and does not address your main point, sorry.

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Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
Couple of points tyhat jump out at me from casual perusal of the build:

You're not soft-capped to AoE.
Yeah, off by 2 percent. I'm thinking about slotting the +3% Def IO somewhere - just havent decided where yet.

Quote:
You're not soft-capped to any position if you turn Stealth off (not sure about when it is merely suppressed). Do you fight with Stealth on?
Depends on what I'm fighting. Against an AV or EB, yes. Against normal mobs, no.

Quote:
You have 3 knockback protection IOs slotted. Shield doesn't need any additional -knb if you run Active Defense constantly, unless there's some reason specific to the iTrials I don't know about.
I put them in there for Hami raids, back when they were popular. I have hasten on auto, and there are times I would forget to click AD in the heat of the battle. The KB Protection IOs were there to fill in the gaps - probably a bit overkill, and can be replaced with something else.

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Speaking of Active Defense, you have a Membrane Exposure HO in there, for 33% recharge bonus. I think they removed the effect Membranes had on Active Defense's DDR, so all it's giving you is 33% recharge -- you'd get over 42% from a lvl 50 common recharge IO.
Hadnt heard that, guess I can pull that out of there and replace with a common recharge.

Quote:
That's really just tidbits and does not address your main point, sorry.
Thanks for the response.

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178774 Tales of Croatoa: A Rose By Any Other Name ( 2009 MA Best In-Canon Arc ) ( 2009 Player Awards - Best Serious Arc )

 

Posted

Replaced the Oblit set with Eradication, the HO with a recharge, and one of the KBs in "One with the Shield" with a GA +3%. Still a bit short on Melee without stealth on.

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Star Spangled Shield: Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg:40(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx:40(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg:40(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(5), T'Death-Dam%:40(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), LkGmblr-Def:50(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(11)
Level 2: Cobra Strike -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(13), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), Mako-Dam%:50(17)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(17), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(19), Krma-ResKB:13(19)
Level 6: Fly -- Zephyr-ResKB:50(A)
Level 8: Crane Kick -- SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SScrappersS-Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SScrappersS-Rchg/+Crit:50(21), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(23), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), OvForce-Dam/KB:50(25)
Level 10: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(25), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Numna-Heal:50(27), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(29), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(31), RechRdx-I:50(31)
Level 14: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 16: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 18: Focus Chi -- GSFC-ToHit:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(33), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(33), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(33), GSFC-Build%:50(34)
Level 20: Crippling Axe Kick -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mako-Dam%:50(36)
Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(37), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(37), Aegis-ResDam:50(39)
Level 26: Dragon's Tail -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(40), Erad-%Dam:30(40)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 30: Against All Odds -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 32: Eagles Claw -- Hectmb-Dmg:50(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Hectmb-Dam%:50(45), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(45)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(45), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), Oblit-%Dam:50(48)
Level 38: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I:50(A)
Level 47: One with the Shield -- GA-3defTpProc:30(A)
Level 49: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I:50(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(48), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg:50(48), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(50), P'Shift-EndMod:50(50), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(50)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
Replaced the Oblit set with Eradication, the HO with a recharge, and one of the KBs in "One with the Shield" with a GA +3%. Still a bit short on Melee without stealth on.
I don't think I've EVER seen a build that fit in the hundreds-of-millions of INF Gladiator's Armor +3% All and SKIPPED the 30 million-ish Steadfast Protectioni 3% All.

Find one more slot, fit in the Steadfast and that'll push you over 45% melee -- I replaced the level 30 Eradications with five Scirocco's Dervishes for the same AoE bonus and moved a slot to Tough.

OR, drop the Hecatomb set and look for something with more defense. One thing I haven't seen anybody mention here (yet) is that the Incarnate Trial softcap is not the same as the 45% softcap we're used to in other content. http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Soft_Cap

Edit: oh yeah. Post the tweaked build, huh? *facepalm*

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...46FF024977E078

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