Caltrops + Overwhelming force + Ragnarok=Win?
Well currently the Knockdown proc in Overwhelming Force is bugged and Ragnarok is still subject to the 10 second lockout in patch powers. We can't say for sure how PPM will affect it since we don't know the new PPM for those particular procs although we can make some estimates.
Assuming that they don't change the formula that has currently been given for the I24 changes the chance for a given proc to fire in Caltrops will be PPM * 0.006206 (or about 0.6% for every proc per minute) checking once per second. The current SBE version of Ragnarok has 3PPM which should increase to about 4PPM in I24 (depending on whether they round up or not) and let's assume Overwhelming Force has the same PPM (since they currently both have a 20% chance assuming the same PPM makes sense). So each proc will have a 2.48% chance to knock each opponent over once per second with a combined chance of 4.90%. For comparison Earthquake has a higher chance (7%) and has the chance to proc 5 times per second instead of one. So it's not going to be as effective as powers liek that but it's not awful.
I've seen many peopel state that Ragnarok works quite well so I can't imagine adding Overwhelming Force would hurt. However, there is a bug right now that is not letting OF apply the chance to knockdown effect to any power. The conversion of knockback to knockdown is working.
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Ah ok. I'll hold off on the respec then. Still this is interesting particularity if they add more of these global damage IO sets with procks we could get back up to 6 damage procks in caltrops again!
Bad idea. There will be the chance that the procs stack, creating KB out of your caltrop patch.
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Given the low magnitude of the potential knockback (1.34 which probably won't even get them fully out of the patch) and the low chance of it actually happening (4% with current proc rules, 0.065% with I24 PPM rules) I wouldn't consider that a particularly compelling case for not doing it.
Bad idea. There will be the chance that the procs stack, creating KB out of your caltrop patch.
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Admittedly I didn't think of this however apart from the low mag wouldn't this require both procks going off at the same time? Isn't that what Adeon is saying?
I could see this happening when you first place the power but I doubt this would happen often enough to be an issue once the caltrops are on the floor. Not to mention the the fact that they are most often used for mitigation/scatter effect anyway.
I was just wondering if anyone had tryed this yet. Putting the Overwhelming Force KD IO and the Ragnarok KD IO in Caltrops.
If so how effective is it? Do you think it's worth the investment as a mitigation tool? Either on ranged toons or on melee's fighting +4/x8.
Or will we see the return of ProckTrops? I.E. Overwhelming Force, Ragnarok, KD to keep them in the trops and Posi, Javelin, Impeded Swiftness damage IO's.
How will the PPM changes affect this kind of slotting?