Invulnerable is very solid...I cannot recall, but if invincibility buffs positional defense also when you are in range of foes, you might be able to go positional, I would look at it at least.
If not, then I would definitely skip Divine Avalanche and take the early AoE as an attack instead, slot for S/L/E/N/F/C easily...all you need to do is put 3 Aegis resists in your auto/inherent powers, 4 reactive armors in resist toggles...luck of the gambler everywhere you can...and take Manu/CJ/Tough/Weave etc. to help you get your defenses where you want them.
Currently Playing:
Rage King - SS/Regen Brute (50+3)
Soulfire Darkness - Dark/Fire Tank (50+2)
Deaths Final Embrace - Kat/Dark Brute (50+3)
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Well, took a quick crack at it before bed tonight. It hits 47.5 S/L 40.6 E/N and 42.8 F/C with T4 agility.
The build feels a little awkward, and hasten isn't quite perma... ugh, just not feeling real confident in it. But it's my first crack at /inv, and those defense numbers layered onto a resist set should be pretty sturdy I suppose. Not sure how I feel about it really.
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Okay. Again. Passive Resists (any power that says "Resist X") should be the ones getting the Aegis treatment.
You get nearly the same amount of raw Resistance enhancement from 3 Aegis (Resist, Res/End, Res/Rech) as you do from 4 Reactive Armor (Resist, Res/End, Res/Rech, Res/End/Rech). And you see better endurance reduction in powers that actually benefit from it.
Here's a slightly different take on your build. Slightly closer to Perma Hasten. VERY perma DP.
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I really should be sleeping, but.
My Fm/Inv brute is softcapped to s/l and doesnkt have a single kin combat set in it at all. Plus, these other two guys know there stuff. Follow there advice and you should do well. Ok now me go sleepy bye.
Thanks for the tweaks and such. I wasn't really meaning that the slotting was set, it was just a quick and dirty bit thrown together right before bed so that I would have a record of which sets to use and such. Very nice revamp, most appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Forevermore
I really should be sleeping, but.
My Fm/Inv brute is softcapped to s/l and doesnkt have a single kin combat set in it at all. Plus, these other two guys know there stuff. Follow there advice and you should do well. Ok now me go sleepy bye. |
Getting to S/L softcap on Inv isn't the issue. Any idiot can do that.
Getting your defenses on the other defense types up to acceptable ranges is where planning comes in. And using Kin Combats to boost S/L frees one up to make other choices for the exotics.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Getting to S/L softcap on Inv isn't the issue. Any idiot can do that.
Getting your defenses on the other defense types up to acceptable ranges is where planning comes in. And using Kin Combats to boost S/L frees one up to make other choices for the exotics. |
Agreed. Maybe I should have said that I have s/l/e/n soft capped with f/c at around 32%.
Also, I feel I should clarify. I wasn't trying to seem boastful, I was just remarking to the OPs statement about building inv around kin combats. In my defense, I did advise him to listen to you, as I know you know your stuff, and are a helpful member of the community. I just don't seem to have the ability to explain myself very well at times.
No, I knew you weren't trying to argue.
Just keeping dialog going so that anyone else reading it understands what's being talked about in a bit better detail.
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You can be softcapped to S/L/E/N/F/C with a reasonably priced build. This one is very similar to the one I'm currently using on my Kat/Inv Scrapper, so far no complaints so hopefully you can get some ideas from it:
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.957
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Sting of the Wasp -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Acc-I(37)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(3), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(3), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(43)
Level 2: Gambler's Cut -- SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg(A), SBrutesF-Rech/Fury(9), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Achilles-ResDeb%(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 6: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(7), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45), LkGmblr-Def(45)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(13), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(46), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 18: The Lotus Drops -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(19), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(21), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 20: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(23), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(25)
Level 24: Flashing Steel -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(48), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(50), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(40), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(33), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(34), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Resist Elements -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 47: Superior Conditioning -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(48)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(15), EndMod-I(15)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 21.63% Defense(Smashing)
- 21.63% Defense(Lethal)
- 20.06% Defense(Fire)
- 20.06% Defense(Cold)
- 20.38% Defense(Energy)
- 20.38% Defense(Negative)
- 6% Defense(Psionic)
- 13.81% Defense(Melee)
- 13.19% Defense(Ranged)
- 15.38% Defense(AoE)
- 5.4% Max End
- 42.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 27% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 157.4 HP (10.5%) HitPoints
- MezResist(Immobilized) 6.6%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 3% (0.05 End/sec) Recovery
- 62% (3.87 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 20% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
- 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
- 20% ResEffect(SpeedRunning)
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
- 20% SpeedRunning
- 2.5% XPDebtProtection
- 1 Null
Set Bonuses:
Kinetic Combat
(Sting of the Wasp)
- MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
- 22.49 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Resist Physical Damage)
- 5% SpeedRunning
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
(Resist Physical Damage)
- 3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)
(Gambler's Cut)
- 44.98 HP (3%) HitPoints
- 5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 2.5% Defense(Melee)
- 1 Null
(Dull Pain)
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Build Up)
- 1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
(Combat Jumping)
- 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Temp Invulnerability)
- 5% SpeedRunning
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
- 2.5% XPDebtProtection
- 3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
(Super Jump)
- 20% ResEffect(SpeedRunning), 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime), 20% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
(Unyielding)
- MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
(The Lotus Drops)
- 1.8% Max End
- 3.13% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.56% Defense(Ranged)
(The Lotus Drops)
- 1% (0.02 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
(Tough)
- 5% SpeedRunning
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
(Flashing Steel)
- 1.8% Max End
- 3.13% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.56% Defense(Ranged)
(Flashing Steel)
- 1% (0.02 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
(Soaring Dragon)
- MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
- 22.49 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Invincibility)
- 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 16.87 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Weave)
- 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 16.87 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Golden Dragonfly)
- 1.8% Max End
- 3.13% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.56% Defense(Ranged)
(Golden Dragonfly)
- 1% (0.02 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
(Tough Hide)
- 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 16.87 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Resist Energies)
- 5% SpeedRunning
- 3.13% Defense(Fire,Cold), 1.56% Defense(AoE)
(Maneuvers)
- 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 16.87 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Resist Elements)
- 3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)
(Health)
- 12% (0.75 HP/sec) Regeneration
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This will be my first invulnerability character, but I have heard pretty good things about it.
I opened this thread and then started poking around in mids and it looks like all the /inv powers are typed defense, so that pretty much locks down that question. I was thinking to leverage Divine Avalanche and go for positional defense instead of having yet another melee built around Kinetic Combat sets, oh well, I guess that's out the door.
So, anyone have any thoughts? I dug about 8 pages deep in the builds forum but didn't see any kat/inv builds there. I can probably cobble something together I suppose but it always helps me out to look over other builds first just to see how people are approaching things. Will check back tomorrow and either post a mids or look at what people have here.
Thanks in advance for anything that is posted. Oh, and just to be clear, I'm looking for a solid defensive build layered on top of /invulnerability's resists. Not sure how far that can be pushed as far as f/c/e/n. It's generally pretty easy to work S/L to good numbers, and then it becomes a balancing act for the others versus getting more recharge to crank kat's big hitters. Price is... not really a huge concern. I mean obviously I would like to keep it as reasonable as possible, but at the same time I have 1-2 sets of rag, heca, apoc and arm banked, pvp 3% def, panaceas, pvp -res aoe procs etc just sitting in my base storage, so if the build looks solid I have the resources to really pimp it out a bit.