Just got avoids the green stuff badge... with a pug... without trying

Lothic · 07-09-2012 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville

It started that way, and "die and stay in the hospital" is an instruction that's easy to communicate, easy to follow, and easy to see if anyone has failed to notice the instruction (the instruction was/is given before the final terminal in the final reactor is completed, so there's lots of time to ensure everyone hears and follows the instruction, even in a league where people have little to no experience with Keyes, trials, or even reading English).

Again I'll simply point out, in keeping with the implication of the way that the "typical player" (like Energizing_Ion) regards getting badges, that getting the "average" PUG to collectively accomplish the Hospital Trick method to get the Avoids badge is in fact a minor miracle in and of itself. If you had a PUG manage something like what you describe on-the-fly then I would naturally have to assume that all the players on that PUG were at the very least much more sypathetic towards working for it (or at least not passively screwing it up) than most people playing out there.

If you think that -any- league could just accidentally get this badge without every individual in that league at least paying some level of attention to the Green beyond simply blindly mashing buttons then I think you have far more faith in the playerbase than I've seen in the last 8 years.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville

I've seen it happen through sheer stupidity lots and lots of times. But I would react poorly to someone I knew for a fact did it deliberately.

That's one of the reasons I don't volunteer to lead leagues. Anymore.

I've seen a few people who've selflessly led dozens of leagues towards getting "master" badges like these in the various trials. I will easily admit the sheer level of frustration involved has kept me from being one of those special people more than a few times. I always do my best to praise and thank anyone willing to "herd the cats" for these attempts because they are truly selfless in a way you rarely see in MMOs like these.

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Arcanaville · 07-09-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lothic

Again I'll simply point out, in keeping with the implication of the way that the "typical player" (like Energizing_Ion) regards getting badges, that getting the "average" PUG to collectively accomplish the Hospital Trick method to get the Avoids badge is in fact a minor miracle in and of itself. If you had a PUG manage something like what you describe on-the-fly then I would naturally have to assume that all the players on that PUG were at the very least much more sypathetic towards working for it (or at least not passively screwing it up) than most people playing out there.

I've never actually seen a problem with it, but every server community seems to be different in this regard.

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If you think that -any- league could just accidentally get this badge without every individual in that league at least paying some level of attention to the Green beyond simply blindly mashing buttons then I think you have far more faith in the playerbase than I've seen in the last 8 years.

On an early Keyes that was not even a badge run specifically, I was targeted by the Green over half the time and it *never* targeted the melee cluster near AM. Just luck of the draw. As I was very far away from AM most of the time and not very close to any other player (Boost Range) that run could have theoretically gotten the green stuff badge had just a few players been paying attention and were able to successfully avoid Oblit (I got hit once: it was a very early Keyes). So I know its possible to have a run where the RNG creates the circumstances for a league to get the badge with less than a quarter of the league actually having to pay attention. Its just rare. But I would expect it to happen on the order of at least one every thousand Keyes run somewhere.

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