Diamagnetic for Avs soloing?


ClawsandEffect

 

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Hi all!
With post talking about interface for AV soloing, i mostly just see reactive or degenerative.
Would Diamagnetic be a good choice? Or it's far behind those two?
What about GMs?


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Diamagnetic's debuff is affected by AV/GM debuff resistance, which makes it trivial and much weaker than a DoT interface against any target with enough regeneration to care about. :/


 

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It's among the more useless Interfaces.

The enemies it would be useful against resist the bejeezus out of its effects, and the ones that don't resist it are dead quickly anyway, so you wouldn't get much mileage out of it there either.


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Reactive and Degenerative both affect AVs in a way that speed up time-to-defeat and aren't particularly resisted. (DR debuffs are resisted, but no more than they are by any critter.) Both also have a damaging DoT side, which, from what I can tell, dominates the time to defeat the AVs. (In other words, I believe most folks go for DoT+HP/DR debuff.) In contrast, Diamagnetic has no DoT and affects regen rate, and AVs do resist heavily.


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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
It's among the more useless Interfaces.

The enemies it would be useful against resist the bejeezus out of its effects, and the ones that don't resist it are dead quickly anyway, so you wouldn't get much mileage out of it there either.
IMO almost ALL interface debuffs are this way with exceptions being the -res on reactive, -special on gravitic, -maxhp on degenerative, and -dmg on i think paralytic

due to this i pretty much never get an interface that does not have a DoT component


 

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Diamagnetic's -toHit can be nice, especially if you play on high difficulty, especially if you have defense or other -toHit to stack it with. That said, I almost never use it even on the characters I took it to T4 on. I use one of the DoT ones instead.


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Diamagnetic's -toHit can be nice, especially if you play on high difficulty, especially if you have defense or other -toHit to stack it with. That said, I almost never use it even on the characters I took it to T4 on. I use one of the DoT ones instead.
For a softcapped character I don't think -tohit is matters at all since the auto hit ratio doesn't change. Now if it was -acc it would be a different story.


 

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For a softcapped character I don't think -tohit is matters at all since the auto hit ratio doesn't change. Now if it was -acc it would be a different story.
Right... but all characters are not softcapped. Nor are all "softcapped" characters necessarily capped to every vector or damage type.


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the -tohit still does diddly to the an AV though, i think it does only like 0.6% debuff to tohit on an AV due to the resistances so it will cap out at little over 2.4ish %

against most mobs (minion, lt, boss) it will be great doing almost -20% extra tohit for things that do survive long enough, heck even 5% tohit debuff is really nice if your just on the edge of the soft cap


overall i would prolly take the -tohit one more if it were paired with a DoT component just because DoTs are better vs hard targets like AVs than the debuffs are


 

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Awww.... well, thanks for the help!
In theory it sounded nice, but i didn't know how much it would be resisted.


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Awww.... well, thanks for the help!
In theory it sounded nice, but i didn't know how much it would be resisted.
Regen debuffs are resisted by something like 87%.


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the -tohit still does diddly to the an AV though, i think it does only like 0.6% debuff to tohit on an AV due to the resistances so it will cap out at little over 2.4ish %
If you're responding to me, I posted that Diamagnetic is terible for AVs earlier in the thread. There was a spin-off discussion about always taking the DoT-ing Interfaces period, not just for AVs, and I mentioned Diagmagnetic as not completely terrible for that. Not for AVs.


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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
Regen debuffs are resisted by something like 87%.
lvl 54 AVs have 87% resist to all debuffs unless they have additional resistances


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If you're responding to me, I posted that Diamagnetic is terible for AVs earlier in the thread. There was a spin-off discussion about always taking the DoT-ing Interfaces period, not just for AVs, and I mentioned Diagmagnetic as not completely terrible for that. Not for AVs.
i think it was adding on to what you were talking about, i knew you said it wasnt good for AVs but my wording could have been wierd since i wrote the post at 3 am lol